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Would you trade your 2nd and 3rd round picks for additional 1st round? (1 Viewer)

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Player A gives :

Pick : 1.12

Pick : 5.12

Pick : 6.01

Player B gives :

Pick : 2.07

Pick : 3.06

Pick : 6.07

I'm player B so I would end up with 1.6 and 1.12 but no 2nd or 3rd round pick?

 
I don't like it. There is plenty of depth this year in the first 3 rounds where you don't need two first rounders to get a good team.

 
Is this an initial draft? Is it a rookie dynasty draft?

In my recent rookie dynasty draft (5 rounds) I traded

2.07 & 3.07

for

1.02 & 5.02

But the thing is, in a rookie draft, first round picks have a much higher value than in a regular redraft league.

 
switz said:
Is this an initial draft? Is it a rookie dynasty draft?In my recent rookie dynasty draft (5 rounds) I traded2.07 & 3.07for1.02 & 5.02But the thing is, in a rookie draft, first round picks have a much higher value than in a regular redraft league.
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Thanks guys ran it through the pick value calc and it is -2% so technically a no trade. Just wondering if getting a gore/moss combo and then drafting best availables in 4th and on is a good strategy?
 
I find the calc handy, but definitely not the be-all, end-all.

That said, unless I have a top 3 or something, I always try to trade out of the 1st to pick up an additional "pre fifth" pick (like a 2/3 for my 1/6... I just did a 1/8 for a 2/4 in a new dynasty startup). A lot of people feel there's a definite dropoff of talent after the mid fifth round or so (right after the good wr2's go), so I want as many of these picks as possible.

Please note: the above opinion is for dynasty - in redraft, I might want the second 1.

 
I have had great success in the past by trading out of the first round. I like to try to trade a first and fifth or sixth (depending on how big my first is) round pick for a second and third. Piling up all of that solid depth in the second and third is huge...first round value comes out of those rounds every year.

Diversifying your risk = good idea.

 
switz said:
Is this an initial draft? Is it a rookie dynasty draft?

In my recent rookie dynasty draft (5 rounds) I traded

2.07 & 3.07

for

1.02 & 5.02

But the thing is, in a rookie draft, first round picks have a much higher value than in a regular redraft league.
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This is a good point. Need to know if this is a redraft, rookie or initial dynasty start up. In a Rookie draft you get a good deal. In the other two situations the other guy makes out like a bandit...
 
Always, always, always trade up. Always. If you are good at fantasy football, you will overcome the loss of the 2nd and 3rd with saavy picks in later rounds. If you aren't good at fantasy football, why are you playing?

 
kaa said:
Always, always, always trade up. Always. If you are good at fantasy football, you will overcome the loss of the 2nd and 3rd with saavy picks in later rounds. If you aren't good at fantasy football, why are you playing?
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Really? You wouldn't do the deal listed above? I would most definitely move back 7 spots to get an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick. The guy is trading away the 1.12 which I assume means he has the 2.1. So he picks 2.1, 2.7, 3.6 and 3.12, and 4.1. The other guy moves up 7 spots for 1 guy. He misses on either of the guys he takes in the first and his season is over. And looking at your advice above in the latter part of your post, and your notion that this particular trade is good for the guy trading up, I have to ask. Why are you playing?Mind you, if this is just a rookie draft then I apologize. But in a dynasty start up draft or rookie draft trading down is the only way to go here...
 
Pretty hard to say without knowing who you are targetting at 1.06 and 1.12. Personally, I'm not a fan of the 12th pick from an ADP standpoint, but it would depend on who you take at six.

 
I have the 1st pick overall

I just gave up 2.12 and 3.1 and 8.1 for Randy Moss

That's the extra first rounder in Moss...I feel fine about my move.

 
scancellare said:
Player A gives :

Pick : 1.12

Pick : 5.12

Pick : 6.01

Player B gives :

Pick : 2.07

Pick : 3.06

Pick : 6.07

I'm player B so I would end up with 1.6 and 1.12 but no 2nd or 3rd round pick?
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This really depends on what you would be looking at taking. It seems to me that it would not be a good trade for the person giving up the 2nd and 3rd round picks, because it would seem to me that the players available at 1.12-2.07 are pretty much in the same category with similar risk/reward, especially given the number of failures that happen late in the first round (thread discussing busts last year). So I would much rather have a mid 2 and a mid 3, than a late 1 and a late 5 in this regard. Basically because I would feel that I would have a better chance to not miss on one of those 2 picks than I would on a late first rounder.

If you have a player that you must have, and you know that he will not be available if you do not do this then pull the trigger. But in general, I try to stay away from the must have mindset.

 
mggoilers said:
I have the 1st pick overallI just gave up 2.12 and 3.1 and 8.1 for Randy MossThat's the extra first rounder in Moss...I feel fine about my move.
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That's a good trade but this guy is giving up a mid-2nd, not a late, and Moss shouldn't be there at 1.12. In your case it was a good deal but I don't like it in this one.
 
If I had a late first rounder and I was getting a mid-2nd, then yes I would pull the trigger. But if I had a top 5 pick, I wouldn't make a similar deal. I do agree with the idea of accumulating as many picks in the first 4 rounds as possible this year, as most of the mocks seem to have a talent drop in the mid to late 5th.

 
In a free league, I made the exact deal he is offering. It worked out awful in my draft. Grabbed Brady at 6 and Barber at 12, then watched as (no lie) 17 WRs went before 4.01. That's 17 out of 24. The pickings were slim. The RB value was there, but it was there for everyone at that point, so it was sort of a wash. My starting WR corps is ridiculously bad compared with everyone else's.

While your draft probably won't go the same way, I have seen multiple WR runs in rounds 2-3 that have been stunning.

 
My situation is a bit different. In my ten-team league we can protect one player from last year's roster per round, so the owner can choose to protect or enter the round in draft (it's a semi-keeper league but everyone on your roster except your protection during the round is fair game). I am keeping LT and managed to trade for AD. I then traded my 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to another owner for his 1st and 7th. So i am getting LT and AD and then have to draft my but off. Only one owner thought I got the better end of the deal so we'll see. We do only start either 1 RB and 3 WRs or 2 RBs and 2 WRs so I feel I will still find some value at that position.

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BTW the calculater said that trade was -18% for me :hifive:

 
I did just that. Already had the 1.12 and 2.1 and I gave up the 2.1 and 3.12 for a 1.7. Got Portis and LJ in a PPR league. Boldin at 4.1.

 
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