WR Antonio Brown, FA (2 Viewers)

[Black Box]

Maybe, maybe I’m misremember or misinterpreting things. I do recall Bouchette reporting on AB’s disappearance in camp last year (2018) after having a report in ‘17 about something goofy Brown did. It was widely dismissed by the fan base, including myself, just a sour grapes reporter who had been bad mouthed by Brown. 

Yep. The dots were always there, at least locally, if one chose to look for them, but most didn't care because of what AB brought on the field. I know of at least one local reporter who was anti-Brown (and Bell for that matter) years before anything blew up. Nothing really made it nationally, though, which is why the national media pinned the AB-Steelers breakup on Ben.

 

[Doug B]

I drafted him last week at 3.04 in Summerpalooza (taking place in the FFA right now). At the time, I thought the helmet stuff was just going to be a speed bump once he found a newer model of the one he likes. Yikes.

 

[mozzy84]

Is anybody drafting this dude in redraft?  I cannot imagine picking him before the 3rd now. 

4th or later I would probably grab him, even in the 4th I'd have to think about it.  That said someone will take him long before that.   Like another poster said think about where this goes when the raiders are 2-7 and he's sitting on 2-3 TD's

 

[matttyl]

I wouldn't draft him earlier than the 6th round. Let some other dolt take their chances on this nutball.

Took Zeke in the first, M Gordon in the second, and this guy in the 3rd.  Championship!

 

[SpruceGoose]

from what I’ve seen, players aren’t exactly buying into Shouty McGrudenpants brand of coaching. He just did a yelly presser where he red face screamed “I just want to see a little f*****g effort!” 

That doesn’t bode well regardless. 

I wasnt sure if I was projecting while watching Hard Knocks (I never liked the locker room atmosphere)...

....but Gruden seems out of place when I watch...people dont seem to really feel comfortable around him.  

Not in a "better be nice to boss so I dont get fired", but in a "this guy is an idiot" sort of way.

 

[Interseptopus]

Today's practice: Helmets go on, AB walks off

Straight up 

 

[pantherclub]

Today's practice: Helmets go on, AB walks off

Straight up 

I cannot imagine that locker room is a well oiled machine right now.   

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wasnt sure if I was projecting while watching Hard Knocks (I never liked the locker room atmosphere)...

....but Gruden seems out of place when I watch...people dont seem to really feel comfortable around him.  

Not in a "better be nice to boss so I dont get fired", but in a "this guy is an idiot" sort of way.

 I really have the feeling that the game has passed him by and he no longer relates to players as a coach.

 It may also be that during his time as an analyst he said things about players that cheesed them off. 

 We’ll see what happens when the games count, but I kind of feel like Gruden is out of his league at this point 

 

[ericttspikes]

Is anybody drafting this dude in redraft?  I cannot imagine picking him before the 3rd now. 

Not if he doesn't get to wear his magical touchdown making helmet.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1XpAtzBA_E/

 

[Penguin]

UNDISPUTED @undisputed

"Like my momma used to say, 'What's done in the dark, will come into the light.' Right now, I believe you're starting to see what may have been happening in the dark in Pittsburgh coming into the light. ... [Antonio Brown] was given a lot of privileges." —

@jharrison9292

 

[apalmer]

Took Zeke in the first, M Gordon in the second, and this guy in the 3rd.  Championship!

Not unless you also managed to snag Josh Gordon in the 4th or 5th.

 

[Foosball God]

Today's practice: Helmets go on, AB walks off

Straight up 

I'm seeing reports that he's practicing in an approved helmet.

 

[matttyl]

Not unless you also managed to snag Josh Gordon in the 4th or 5th.

6th.  I'm not crazy.

 

[matttyl]

I'm seeing reports that he's practicing in an approved helmet.

Starting to wonder what's real and what's totally made up.

 

[Deamon]

I'm seeing reports that he's practicing in an approved helmet.

Ya he walked off to go to the weightroom and that seemed to cause the premature tweet.  Came back out though and practiced with it on.

 

[Penguin]

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

Antonio Brown practiced today - with a certified helmet, per Jon Gruden.

 

[Penguin]

Albert Breer @AlbertBreer

Raiders coach Jon Gruden was asked if Antonio Brown showing means he's all-in, smiled and responded, "Is that some sort of joke? Yeah, he's in, all-in, that's what he said." On the kind of helmet Brown's wearing, Gruden said, "It's a certified helmet. He's all-in, ready to go."

 

[Penguin]

BetQL @betqlapp

Oakland Raiders receiver Antonio Brown is being sued by a chef for allegedly not paying up on a $38,000 bill back in January 2018.

How many more problems is Antonio Brown going to have?

Over/Under 3.5

#NFL #Sportsbetting

 

[5Rings]

Took him at 3.02 today.

 

[Interseptopus]

Albert Breer @AlbertBreer

Raiders coach Jon Gruden was asked if Antonio Brown showing means he's all-in, smiled and responded, "Is that some sort of joke? Yeah, he's in, all-in, that's what he said." On the kind of helmet Brown's wearing, Gruden said, "It's a certified helmet. He's all-in, ready to go."

I cant help but read this in a frank caliendo Gruden voice

In fact, any quote of grudens I read in that voice

 

[Deamon]

Took him at 3.02 today.

Too early.

 

[5Rings]

Too early.

You could be right.  I just like his upside over the guys that were there.

 

[Penguin]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

Source: The hearing in front of an arbitrator for #Raiders WR Antonio Brown’s second helmet grievance against the NFL is likely to be Friday. So there should be a timely resolution.

 

[Penguin]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

#Raiders WR Antonio Brown wore a Schutt Vengeance Z10 LTD helmet today in practice, per source. It is among the 34 helmets approved for use after the NFL-NFLPA laboratory tests were conducted early this year and sent to players in April. It’s in the green grouping of helmets.

 

[matttyl]

There are 34 approved helmets and he didn’t like any of them?!  I was thinking there were only like 4 or 5.

 

[zoonation]

I wouldn't draft him earlier than the 6th round. Let some other dolt take their chances on this nutball.

So, AB is sitting there in the fifth round and you pass?

come on man.  He’s a steal in the third. Robbery in the fourth.  Fifth?  Lol.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So, AB is sitting there in the fifth round and you pass?

come on man.  He’s a steal in the third. Robbery in the fourth.  Fifth?  Lol.  

If he were still a steeler, sure. He’s a steal in the 3rd. 

But he’s a raider, and he’s a nut. So he’s a steal in the 4th or 5th, he’s maybe a value in the 3rd. He’s a reach in the 2nd.

 

[Penguin]

@SharpFootball

SOS (Win Totals) tool, there's a good chance the #Raiders start the season 1-6:

Two back-to-back road games (Weeks 2-3, 7-8)

4-of-7 games come against projected "top-10 teams"

6-of-7 teams have a win total at 8.5 or higher

 

[zoonation]

If he were still a steeler, sure. He’s a steal in the 3rd. 

But he’s a raider, and he’s a nut. So he’s a steal in the 4th or 5th, he’s maybe a value in the 3rd. He’s a reach in the 2nd.

If he was Steeler he’d be a lock for top 10 production (as a floor).    

Interesting take coming from a guy who is a Carr defender.  

You may be right.  But I would bet he finishes top 10 WR this year if he plays every week.   They will feed him targets.  

We are talking about the best wr talent in the league.  It is pre-season.  

This is all noise right now.  

 

[skol asylum]

@SharpFootball

SOS (Win Totals) tool, there's a good chance the #Raiders start the season 1-6:

Two back-to-back road games (Weeks 2-3, 7-8)

4-of-7 games come against projected "top-10 teams"

6-of-7 teams have a win total at 8.5 or higher

Excellent. That means 4th quarter garbage points galore for AB as they air it out to catch up.

 

[skol asylum]

I think I should change my dynasty team name to "drama". Luck at QB and his injury drama. AB and his drama. And in the off-season with Tyreek and his drama which unfortunately I overreacted to and sold dirt cheap.

 

[Penguin]

I've got dibs on "Antonio Clown Car"

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If he was Steeler he’d be a lock for top 10 production (as a floor).    

Interesting take coming from a guy who is a Carr defender.  

I hate you sooooooooo much for that.  

You may be right.  But I would bet he finishes top 10 WR this year if he plays every week.   They will feed him targets.  

We are talking about the best wr talent in the league.  It is pre-season.  

This is all noise right now.  

I dunno man. There’s smoke & Fire here. This second grievance isn’t just a red flag. It’s like there was a BOGO sale at the red flag store. 

 

[Steeler]

It think I should change my dynasty team name to "drama". Luck at QB and his injury drama. AB and his drama. And in the off-season with Tyreek and his drama which unfortunately I overreacted to and sold dirt cheap.

I changed my team name last week to "Team Drama".  Three of my keepers are Zeke, AB, and OBJ. 

 

[zoonation]

I hate you sooooooooo much for that.  

I dunno man. There’s smoke & Fire here. This second grievance isn’t just a red flag. It’s like there was a BOGO sale at the red flag store. 

Lol.

Maybe.  

AB will be on the field opening day.  The raiders are built for drama.  And he is a transcendent talent.   

Im buying in the third.  

 

[zoonation]

I changed my team name last week to "Team Drama".  Three of my keepers are Zeke, AB, and OBJ. 

I like those keepers.  

 

[tangfoot]

Gruden and AB are laughing like those guys in Goodfellas all week long when the cameras aren't rolling.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gruden and AB are laughing like those guys in Goodfellas all week long when the cameras aren't rolling.

Yes, I’m sure this is exactly what Gruden envisioned in making his triumphant return to the nfl. 

 

[zoonation]

Gruden and AB are laughing like those guys in Goodfellas all week long when the cameras aren't rolling.

I don’t know about “laughing”.   But needing to win, above all else in a 16 game season, sharpens the mind.  

And the Raiders aren’t winning #### without AB being a big part of what they do. 

And, if there is any WR in the league that can blow smoke all preseason and then show up and produce, it is AB.   

Im buying in the third.  

 

[tangfoot]

Yes, I’m sure this is exactly what Gruden envisioned in making his triumphant return to the nfl. 

Have you watched any of Hard Knocks?  He’s ####### around and not taking it seriously at all. 

 

[Penguin]

Warren Sharp @SharpFootball

AB never played on a NFL team that finished below .500. In his last 5 seasons, PIT was never more than 1 game below .500 at any point in a season. In those 5 years, they were below .500 only 4 times total. The 2019 Raiders are favored in 3 games & are projected to win 6.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Have you watched any of Hard Knocks?  He’s ####### around and not taking it seriously at all. 

I have not. 

sounds....odd. 

Guess we'll see what happens on the field. 

 

[dickey moe]

So, AB is sitting there in the fifth round and you pass?

come on man.  He’s a steal in the third. Robbery in the fourth.  Fifth?  Lol.  

Hope it works out for you.

 

[barackdhouse]

If anyone in the Shark Pool can find a Schutt AiR Advantage helmet made within the last 10 years laying around - we could potentially solve this issue before Week 1.

I'm about to eBay one and drive to Oakland.

 

[barackdhouse]

Gruden and AB are laughing like those guys in Goodfellas all week long when the cameras aren't rolling.

This is what I've been saying. It's a brilliant diversion. Or they're just both batty.

 

[Faust]

The Antonio Brown Helmet Saga Is Too Much Even for ‘Hard Knocks’

 

[Godsbrother]

UNDISPUTED @undisputed

"Like my momma used to say, 'What's done in the dark, will come into the light.' Right now, I believe you're starting to see what may have been happening in the dark in Pittsburgh coming into the light. ... [Antonio Brown] was given a lot of privileges." —

@jharrison9292

James Harrison was one of the problems in Pittsburgh...

 

[Faust]

Agent's Take: What happens if Raiders try to void Antonio Brown's guarantees in his contract

 

[Faust]

Mike Freeman's 10-Point Stance: Antonio Brown Hall of Fame Future in Jeopardy

 

[DocHolliday]

Warren Sharp @SharpFootball

AB never played on a NFL team that finished below .500. In his last 5 seasons, PIT was never more than 1 game below .500 at any point in a season. In those 5 years, they were below .500 only 4 times total. The 2019 Raiders are favored in 3 games & are projected to win 6.

I go back and forth on how I think Brown is going to take losing.  He isn't used to losing often and being out of playoff contention in Oct.   And, there is no doubt that the Raiders are losing more than they win games.  Does he really care about winning that much?  He left one of the few winning organizations.   Brown seems more concerned about stats and money.  I'm more concerned that he finds a way off the field due to lack of quality targets and TDs.   How is he going to feel if JuJu has a bunch of TDs by week 6 while he has one?    Maybe garbage time stats will be enough to keep him on the field.