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I dont get it. You are calling it a train wreck that he is playing in the third quarter? I'd maybe get that if he was a roster bubble guy. Or is it a train wreck because his QB all of a sudden became a lesser Brock Osweiller? I just drafted him at 13 overall, feel pretty good about what he has shown in limited PT this preseason. That athletic ability is not teachable. The QB situation is beginning to become a concern though.3rd quarter.
Again.
I don't know what @SayWhat? had in mind, but this is the exact reason why I've soured on any/all SF WRs.
Same for me - Jimmy G has done very little in his career for how much fantasy value is riding on him. He's played a whole 9 games with SF.
The trainwreck emoji was in jest in response to @EBF's second straight week of "train leaving the station!" posts following Deebo Samuel making a play in the third quarter of preseason games. And these are the first and second preseason games, no less. It's really grasping at hope more than anything else. There's just nothing that's adding up to him being a stud.
The trainwreck emoji was in jest in response to @EBF's second straight week of "train leaving the station!" posts following Deebo Samuel making a play in the third quarter of preseason games. And these are the first and second preseason games, no less. It's really grasping at hope more than anything else. There's just nothing that's adding up to him being a stud.
His high 2nd round draft capital bodes well for him as it relates to opportunities and he does have some plus athletic traits. I think he's a guy that will play in the league for 8+ years, and be solid at that. But I just fail to see the optimism as it relates to any sort of trajectory above "meh" fantasy starter. He's a guy I'd be happy with in the early 2nd of rookie drafts, because I think he's a safe ppr asset. But stud I'm not seeing. Will be fun to watch this one play out.
- Middling college career?
- Failing to truly stand out amongst thoroughly uninspiring WR competition?
- QB that seems to be regressing by the day?
I've heard people say yes and no to this today. At this point I'll believe it one way or the other in week 1.
@Faust posted this in the Pettis thread:
My slightly-outdated rookie rankings don't even mention stats when I talk about Metcalf. I did crack jokes about him being the third best receiver on his college team in a different thread, but really it's the middling film that most concerns me. He doesn't look as good in film as his own teammate AJ Brown, even though he's the superior athlete on paper. When I watch Metcalf or even Knox game clips, it is always Brown who stands out to me. Metcalf looks limited when he's not running vertical routes.cloppbeast said:
I just noticed an inconsistency is all. Well it makes sense if you were just clowning around about Metcalf's stats in the other thread.
Perhaps I assumed a lot better of his immediate impact and San Fran's offensive prowess than you. Other than Pettis not looking good everything else is just blah for Deebo imo. He has run with the 2's all camp, as far as I can tell hasn't really established himself in the preseason. 2 plays, a nice catch on an under-thrown pass, and a reverse to pay dirt. The reverse is meh: 1) he looked a lot less explosive than Hardman who also made a reverse TD, 2) wrs catch passes 95% of the time. Speaking of which, Deebo had no targets in the last pre-season game - that's what I read on reddit anyway. When I expected him to ascend in this WR corpse pretty quickly now finding there's still a lot of questions. So unless you liked him a lot from the beginning, there's not much encouragement to think he'll see a lot of playing time, unlike say DK Metcalf.
He hit 21 mph on the reverse, which is a speed Tyreek only hit a few times last season. You can find the clip where they clocked him on NFL.com in the game highlights. I saw a similar stat from week one of the preseason where he was among the fastest players clocked. I'll find links later when I have more time.
He's had two 45+ yard plays (one a contested catch) in limited action, that's all you can ask for, taking advantage of his opportunities. That's the definition of explosive imo. Saying he looked less explosive than Hardman...that's purely your eyes man. Don't know how else to say it when we have definitive GPS-backed data showing that that 45-yard reverse run saw him hit the fastest top speed in the NFL so far this preseason (tied with a return TD I believe). You can't argue that, regardless of which players "look" fast to your eyes. Camera angle, individual running stride, and even uniform colors/cut can have a distinct impact on how fast someone arbitrarily "looks" in motion FWIW. Our eyes play tricks.
In a keeper league, he's probably as good a stash as anyone on your WW. Would need to know who is available but not a subject for this thread.
Only 15 guys can be a top 15 player at their position and WR 15 is a WR two.
If he's on your wire think it's time to pick him up, Shanahan is playing games with Pettis right now and Deebo seems to be his guy.
I think the narrative is actually simpler.
The offensive sceme is completely different this year from last year. Last year they had to throw to try and stay in games. This year they base their offense on clock killing with the run game while their defense smothers the other team.
