WR Diontae Johnson, CLE (1 Viewer)

[TampaMike19]

Based on his time in Pit DJ is short to mid game possession receiver. Good separation and route runner. Hands could be better. Not a deep threat.

One thing overlooked is he pouts and becomes disengaged if not getting “enough” targets. His attitude is a significant reason why IMO Pit traded him in the offseason.

What a dichotomy. WRs are super important to their team but their stats are greatly affected by poor QB play or lack of targets. Therefore, this is used Against them in future earnings / contracts negotiations. I wish it weren’t but the reality is that it probably is.

So, what is the break even point? Do you put up with diva WRs that perform, and then dump them a year early (Diggs is a prime example.) When is it no longer “worth it” for a team even though it’s a good player? There is nothing to suggest DJ play is falling off, but Pittsburgh is usually well managed in the sense that it’s better to be a year early than late.

 

[DeaLerZ]

I think DJ has a good chance to be top 15 the rest of the way as long as Dalton is the QB. The panthers have been saying all off-season that the offense runs through DJ

They just didn't have an offense the first two weeks

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[bcat01]

Did not practice. Groin issue.

 

[FarFromHome]

"The team erred on the side of caution to prevent damaging a groin injury on the wet playing surface after heavy rain in Charlotte. Johnson said field conditions impacted his decision to sit out and he’s good to go Sunday. He is expected to practice tomorrow."

 

[simey]

"The team erred on the side of caution to prevent damaging a groin injury on the wet playing surface after heavy rain in Charlotte. Johnson said field conditions impacted his decision to sit out and he’s good to go Sunday. He is expected to practice tomorrow."

It is still raining, and it will rain heavily tonight and into tomorrow some.

 

[Yenrub]

Starting him over JSN this week.

Am definitely expecting the Panthers to regress to some degree but still seems an easy player to find room for in your lineup.

This was my plan before I saw him pop up on the injury report.
I’ll be traveling when the inactive reports are announced so I need to make a decision tonight

 

[Mr. Peterson]

I’m trying to figure out his dynasty value and what he might go for in a trade. Is he a buy low? Sell high? This guy is tough to figure out.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Do people think Johnson is a WR1 the rest of the way? He's balled out under Dalton but the threat of the Panthers going back to Bryce worries me.

 

[Banger]

I heard it mentioned that this was his last year in Carolina. If that’s the case you deal him, DJ Moore style, to the highest bidder (likely KC).

With Dalton at the helm he’s a different player.

 

[Banger]

I’m trying to figure out his dynasty value and what he might go for in a trade. Is he a buy low? Sell high? This guy is tough to figure out.

Buy medium

 

[Faust]

Dave Canales on Diontae Johnson trade: 'Don't see that happening'

 

[Payne]

He is locked into my lineup as long as he is healthy and Young isn't the QB.

 

[Faust]

Is Diontae Johnson the Panthers' long-term solution as WR1?

 

[Dizzy]

He is locked into my lineup as long as he is healthy and Young isn't the QB.

Absolutely. Dude's a target monster. He was in PIT too before Ben called it quits.

It's all about staying healthy w/ DJ. When he's on the field, he is separating and getting the ball.

 

[IHEARTFF]

What if KC pivots to DJ for a 5th? I could see it.

 

[Dizzy]

What if KC pivots to DJ for a 5th? I could see it.

It really makes sense. There is no reason for CAR to hold onto him with Dalton playing out the string.

 

[Ray_T]

WRs are super important to their team but their stats are greatly affected by poor QB play or lack of targets

ding ding, we have a winner.

my thought on WR is that its much easier for things to go sideways for them. QB injured or ineffective. if the line doesnt give the QB time to throw that can derail a season for a WR too.

and too many teams are taking shortcuts now. instead of investing in the line like they should, they just draft a running QB with the thought that that running ability will make up for that deficiency. Sadly, it doesnt always turn out that way. only the truly special ones can make up for the bad line with their feet. And they are not that common.

 

[Faust]

Mike Clay
Panthers WR Diontae Johnson leads the NFL with 11 end zone targets.

No one else has more than 7.

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[menobrown]

Never heard of this, seems fishy to me with all the trade rumors swirling:

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[Dizzy]

Never heard of this, seems fishy to me with all the trade rumors swirling:

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Hmm... maybe on his way to PIT?

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Never heard of this, seems fishy to me with all the trade rumors swirling:

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Hmm... maybe on his way to PIT?

He can't go to Pittsburgh

 

[menobrown]

Never heard of this, seems fishy to me with all the trade rumors swirling:

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Hmm... maybe on his way to PIT?

To someone maybe, but not PIT. They actually are prohibited from trading for him until after the season.

But his injury reporting designation before today has been odd all week in the sense he's not had DNP/DNP on both Wednesday and Thursday all year but no one observed any injury last week. Then this today which is why it sounds fishy to me.

I own him in a few huge leagues and am bummed and making plans to be without him. I also don't want him to get traded. Not to KC, not anywhere with the caveat of so long as Dalton is the QB. He's in a great spot right now.

 

[menobrown]

Never heard of this, seems fishy to me with all the trade rumors swirling:

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Hmm... maybe on his way to PIT?

He can't go to Pittsburgh

I was literally just saying.

 

[Largent]

KC is losing the arms race thus far.....

 

[VikingFrog]

Some articles and info swirling that Johnson highly expected to be traded.

At practice today in gym clothes.

There’s smoke… is there fire and who’s grabbing him?

New England?
Tampa Bay?
New Orleans?
Dallas?
Pittsburgh? lol.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

 

[Timmay]

Some articles and info swirling that Johnson highly expected to be traded.

At practice today in gym clothes.

There’s smoke… is there fire and who’s grabbing him?

New England?
Tampa Bay?
New Orleans?
Dallas?
Pittsburgh? lol.

As a Johnson owner. I'd prefer Tampa the most followed by Dallas (I guess). Pittsburgh would be hilarious, but no chance that would be done. Not even sure if the rules allow that. NE, NO and staying put would scare me some.

 

[zamboni]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Probably but he did pepper Thielen with targets last year so maybe there's hope. All depends if the time off did Bryce some good.

 

[BladeRunner]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

 

[The General]

Some articles and info swirling that Johnson highly expected to be traded.

At practice today in gym clothes.

There’s smoke… is there fire and who’s grabbing him?

New England?
Tampa Bay?
New Orleans?
Dallas?
Pittsburgh? lol.

TB makes a ton of sense. PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN

 

[menobrown]

At practice today in gym clothes.

That’s not unusual for him. Sat out Wednesday and Thursday last week.

But I do think they’d like to trade him and that was before he gave one of those “I can’t throw it to myself” comments in his post game interview last week.

Problem is I read today they expect to get a third round comp pick for him in 26 so they’d need at least a third in 25 to make it worthwhile. Unless incentives reached that’s 2 rounds more than Chiefs paid for Hop, what Jets paid for Adams. He’s younger and cheaper then Adams so maybe they get it.

The WR market is wild.

 

[BladeRunner]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

No but Andy has no future with this team. They have a TON invested in Young and are going to have to make a huge decision on him and that position in the off-season. Unless you think their evaluation of Young is over.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Some articles and info swirling that Johnson highly expected to be traded.

At practice today in gym clothes.

There’s smoke… is there fire and who’s grabbing him?

New England?
Tampa Bay?
New Orleans?
Dallas?
Pittsburgh? lol.

TB makes a ton of sense. PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN

Replacing Godwin in that offense would be nice.

 

[travdogg]

Some articles and info swirling that Johnson highly expected to be traded.

At practice today in gym clothes.

There’s smoke… is there fire and who’s grabbing him?

New England?
Tampa Bay?
New Orleans?
Dallas?
Pittsburgh? lol.

I'd be pretty surprised if they traded him within the division.

I think Denver could be a sneaky candidate, as could the Chargers. Both teams are in the playoff hunt, and don't have top WRs (as much as I like McConkey long term)

Vikings could be a deep sleeper. They are 5-1, have lots of cap space, and have been rumored to be in on other WRs. Plus, it would kick Addison to the slot, where I'd argue he's at his best.

 

[irish eyes]

With Bryce Young back in, Dionte is useless & can't be in fantasy lineups. I sure hope he goes somewhere, anywhere.

 

[BladeRunner]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

No but Andy has no future with this team. They have a TON invested in Young and are going to have to make a huge decision on him and that position in the off-season. Unless you think their evaluation of Young is over.

He's not losing his job over an accident. I think CAR is completely done evaluating Young and will be moving on from him. That is patently obvious, IMO.

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

No but Andy has no future with this team. They have a TON invested in Young and are going to have to make a huge decision on him and that position in the off-season. Unless you think their evaluation of Young is over.

He's not losing his job over an accident. I think CAR is completely done evaluating Young and will be moving on from him. That is patently obvious, IMO.

You can't be serious. 2 games with the current coaching staff and last year's number one overall is out? Finished? I know the league has become extremely impatient with these kids but that would be a new low.

 

[BladeRunner]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

No but Andy has no future with this team. They have a TON invested in Young and are going to have to make a huge decision on him and that position in the off-season. Unless you think their evaluation of Young is over.

He's not losing his job over an accident. I think CAR is completely done evaluating Young and will be moving on from him. That is patently obvious, IMO.

You can't be serious. 2 games with the current coaching staff and last year's number one overall is out? Finished? I know the league has become extremely impatient with these kids but that would be a new low.

Young has had 1.5 years to prove himself and he's gotten worse, not better. It's over for him. I don't know what you're seeing but he doesn't get benched because he's the future. he gets benched because he sucks.

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

No but Andy has no future with this team. They have a TON invested in Young and are going to have to make a huge decision on him and that position in the off-season. Unless you think their evaluation of Young is over.

He's not losing his job over an accident. I think CAR is completely done evaluating Young and will be moving on from him. That is patently obvious, IMO.

You can't be serious. 2 games with the current coaching staff and last year's number one overall is out? Finished? I know the league has become extremely impatient with these kids but that would be a new low.

Young has had 1.5 years to prove himself and he's gotten worse, not better. It's over for him. I don't know what you're seeing but he doesn't get benched because he's the future. he gets benched because he sucks.

2 games with this new coaching staff. Maybe they thought he needed to sit and watch. Not every rookie should be thrown right in to play you know....

 

[BladeRunner]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

No but Andy has no future with this team. They have a TON invested in Young and are going to have to make a huge decision on him and that position in the off-season. Unless you think their evaluation of Young is over.

He's not losing his job over an accident. I think CAR is completely done evaluating Young and will be moving on from him. That is patently obvious, IMO.

You can't be serious. 2 games with the current coaching staff and last year's number one overall is out? Finished? I know the league has become extremely impatient with these kids but that would be a new low.

Young has had 1.5 years to prove himself and he's gotten worse, not better. It's over for him. I don't know what you're seeing but he doesn't get benched because he's the future. he gets benched because he sucks.

2 games with this new coaching staff. Maybe they thought he needed to sit and watch. Not every rookie should be thrown right in to play you know....

lemme guess....Carolina Panthers homer?

Only time will tell, but I think everyone has seen enough of Young to know that he's not the answer. Maybe as a backup, but not as a #1.

 

[rockaction]

Oh, so I’m looking at articles about Diontae Johnson now and it's about time somebody asked it. What on God’s green is Diontae doing with his hair these days? Richie James, Part Deux?

So funny when these dudes take their helmets off and their hair looks like the wacky inflatable fun guys you see at the oil lube stores that are always located on a spoke street off of the transportation grid that bedots every exurban town/city/fiefdom. Wacky inflatable moving fun guy!

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

No but Andy has no future with this team. They have a TON invested in Young and are going to have to make a huge decision on him and that position in the off-season. Unless you think their evaluation of Young is over.

He's not losing his job over an accident. I think CAR is completely done evaluating Young and will be moving on from him. That is patently obvious, IMO.

You can't be serious. 2 games with the current coaching staff and last year's number one overall is out? Finished? I know the league has become extremely impatient with these kids but that would be a new low.

Young has had 1.5 years to prove himself and he's gotten worse, not better. It's over for him. I don't know what you're seeing but he doesn't get benched because he's the future. he gets benched because he sucks.

2 games with this new coaching staff. Maybe they thought he needed to sit and watch. Not every rookie should be thrown right in to play you know....

lemme guess....Carolina Panthers homer?

Only time will tell, but I think everyone has seen enough of Young to know that he's not the answer. Maybe as a backup, but not as a #1.

Bears fan.

 

[FarFromHome]

Bryce Young starting this weekend. You had your chance to sell high on Johnson (Unless he does in fact get traded).

Easy there. Dalton is only out for 1 week. It's not like Young is going to be the starter from here on out.

Why would they go back to Andy at this point?

Huh? you think Dalton lost the job because he got into a car accident? Really?

No but Andy has no future with this team. They have a TON invested in Young and are going to have to make a huge decision on him and that position in the off-season. Unless you think their evaluation of Young is over.

He's not losing his job over an accident. I think CAR is completely done evaluating Young and will be moving on from him. That is patently obvious, IMO.

You can't be serious. 2 games with the current coaching staff and last year's number one overall is out? Finished? I know the league has become extremely impatient with these kids but that would be a new low.

Young has had 1.5 years to prove himself and he's gotten worse, not better. It's over for him. I don't know what you're seeing but he doesn't get benched because he's the future. he gets benched because he sucks.

2 games with this new coaching staff. Maybe they thought he needed to sit and watch. Not every rookie should be thrown right in to play you know....

lemme guess....Carolina Panthers homer?

Only time will tell, but I think everyone has seen enough of Young to know that he's not the answer. Maybe as a backup, but not as a #1.

At 23 years old? In the end, you may very well be correct, but he will be the week 1 starting QB for at least one more franchise before his career ends. The reason is the history of the position. Imo

 

[Payne]

Young has no future in Carolina.

Why would they go back to Dalton? Easy.....trying to win. Young gives them no chance of that.
Coaching reigns are SHORT. Especially with an owner like this guy. This staff will do whatever they can to get results if it means saving their jobs.

 

[rockaction]

Dalton doubtful for Sunday’s game.

 

[zamboni]

Young has no future in Carolina.

Why would they go back to Dalton? Easy.....trying to win. Young gives them no chance of that.
Coaching reigns are SHORT. Especially with an owner like this guy. This staff will do whatever they can to get results if it means saving their jobs.

Not sure they think Young has no future there - he was thrown to the wolves in a tough sledding environment as the overall top pick and has obviously struggled big time.

Right now with the season slipping away at 1-6, they may be thinking it's better to see what they have with Young to start making decisions about next year. Who knows though - as you alluded to, the owner is as unstable and trigger happy as they get.

 

[rockaction]

They’re going to be starting Young to make sure the nail is in the coffin there. They’re not going to go into next year undecided about the young man. It would be bad for all parties involved. They have Dalton there for a reason. He’s not trying to make a name for himself. He’ll sort of go away if they ask him to—and they will ask him to.

Don’t forget, he’s thrown up two utter stinkers since starting again. He actually scored negative fantasy points in my league last week.

But they’re going to have to do their full due diligence on Young, lest he get away and make them look completely inept and stupid if by some miracle he turns out to be good.

 

[sheerterror]

They’re going to be starting Young to make sure the nail is in the coffin there. They’re not going to go into next year undecided about the young man. It would be bad for all parties involved. They have Dalton there for a reason. He’s not trying to make a name for himself. He’ll sort of go away if they ask him to—and they will ask him to.

Don’t forget, he’s thrown up two utter stinkers since starting again. He actually scored negative fantasy points in my league last week.

But they’re going to have to do their full due diligence on Young, lest he get away and make them look completely inept and stupid if by some miracle he turns out to be good.

Agreed with this. We just lived it with Zach Wilson as Jet fans for 3 seasons. You want to be fully sure the guy actually sucks so you can move on. Especially after investing as many resources as Carolina did in him (and the Stroud swap completely blowing up in their faces). Sure we know the goal is ultimately to win for every team, but I think it's way more in Carolina's best interest to fully evaluate the asset they are so heavily invested in leading up to deciding if they truly have to move on than it is scratching out a 3-14 record instead of going 2-15.

As for DJ, Tampa seems like a logical fit. He's UFA in 3 months so I don't see why Car would really give a damn about the "can't trade him in the division" mantra if the price is right. They aren't going anywhere anyway, and he'll be out of the division most likely this offseason anyway.