BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Is he getting a new team this week or next?
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WR Diontae Johnson, CLE (1 Viewer)
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Because their quarterback can’t even throw for over 100 yards!!!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
:laughing emoji reaction:
I they sit tight he nets a 3rd round comp pick. Why move him for a 5th?
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Comp picks are tricky though. They'd only get a 3rd if he signs a big contract elsewhere right? Not to mention the comp formula takes into account what other guys walk (And their contracts) + what signings Carolina makes correct?
So I don't see if being black and white a 3rd. It very well could be a lot less if they are active in FA and Johnson's deal is small-ish.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Well Diggs tore his ACL. Welcome to Houston, Diontae!
Just needs to be in the top 35%. 50% is 3.2 million, $860,000 is the median. That's Devin Duvenay or Josh Reynolds numbers.
I thought part of the process in figuring out comp picks was also based on the FA's that Carolina signs?
Either way it was Joe Person with The Athletic who referenced Carolina maybe getting a 5th.
Why would they do it? I can only guess they are not 100% sure the comp pick in 2026 will be a third and/or they want more draft pick ammo in 2025.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Why would Houston go after him? They already have Nico Collins coming back
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Sure, but they clearly value having 3 good WRs if they traded for Diggs even after having Collins and Dell. Not to mention going all-in while Stroud doesn't cost $60M+.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
HE'S A RAVEN.
Only 3 guys merited 3rds this past draft, Diontae might be a 4th or 5th at the most. Plus the pick wouldn't be until 2026. Plus the Panthers have like $130MM in cap space next year, odds are they sign somebody to offset Diontae.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
But that 3rd round comp pick!!!! 
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Wtf. Hmmmm
At least it's done I guess.
At least it's done I guess.
But that 3rd round comp pick!!!!
Yikes, that's pretty dang cheap. Must not have been much of a market
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Is he worthless now?
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Where does this rank on teams that could have acquired him fantasy wise? I think he should eat underneath and intermediate routes with Lamar, and honestly challenge Flowers for a lot of looks. However that running game is so lethal....
Scooby1974
Footballguy
I don't see a scenario where either one of them is worth anything. And Bateman, Andrews, and Likely take a hit too.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
At first I thought yuck. Then noticed Lamar is 5th in the league in passing yards. Ravens defensive secondary ain't want it used to be and they give up points. Kinda settling in that this isn't that bad. Wr3 value I suppose.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
You think his value went DOWN after this move???
I think the problem is his value could have gone up more somewhere else.
Can't get worse than Young.
Way down
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Plays Steelers week 16 if you make it that far. Seems like a feed him 10 target game.
Oh yeah. Much would have preferred the Texans or just stay in Carolina with Dalton back under center.
Ravens defense does suck and probably going to be some good blowup games for Diontae here and there but good luck predicting which ones just like with Likely/Andrews/Bateman
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Henry, Lamar, and Hill running it at a crazy and effective clip.
Andrews, Flowers, Bateman, Likely, Hill out of the backfield, and now Johnson.
Who is going to feel confident starting anyone but Henry and Lamar?
zamboni
Footballguy
And that doesn't even factor in the need to develop chemistry with Lamar, which the other pass catchers already clearly have.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
I'd imagine so. Not exactly a high volume passing game most weeks and at least 3 guys probably ahead of him for targets.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Brutal from a redraft standpoint. Wish I woulda sold high a month ago.
The General
Footballguy
Not loving this. Also have Zay Flowers to boot.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Panthers passing yards 1512
Ravens passing yards 2100
Panthers passing tds 9
Ravens passing td 17
In the end this is just math right?
Ravens passing yards 2100
Panthers passing tds 9
Ravens passing td 17
In the end this is just math right?
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Ravens D is a write-off this season so this is a good move for them to strengthen the passing game.
Have to wait and see what chemistry can come between Lamar and Johnson.
Have to wait and see what chemistry can come between Lamar and Johnson.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
much better value than with Bryce Young (not saying much)
a little less value than with Dalton
a little less value than with Dalton
Gadio
Footballguy
Part of his value was the trade speculation. It is def better than the Panthers with a B. Young, but he could have gone elsewhere. I do not feel confident starting him going forward...
I'd have preferred he stayed in Carolina even with Young.
Really can't think of a worse spot. Diontae has always been volume needy and he just landed in arguably the most difficult position to pull that off.
I'm pretty close to viewing this as the day Diontae died in redraft.
Cutting him for sure on my one local 10/16 man team. Was my WR5, out of 5 but cutting him is a no brainer.
I feel stuck keeping him on my 12/20 sized national contest rosters. Feel like he's worthless in leagues you got to set a lineup but I'm about to get stuck in a multi-week holding pattern of seeing if acclimation helps him. My real line of thinking is those of us who hold him will look back at this and realize we'd have been better off if he had suffered a season ending injury and we just moved on.
Dynasty is of course a different subject.
massraider
Footballguy
Lamar owners dancing, as everyone else stands around like 
