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WR Hunter Renfrow, CAR (1 Viewer)

Zyphros said:
Keep him.  He’ll be a monster in full PPR leagues.  He’s going to be the security blanket instead of the learning process of Ruggs and Edwards.  He’s a discount Jamison Crowder with the same 100 catches upside.  
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70 to 80 catches seems possible.   He shoukd have competition from a healthy Williams and eventually from Ruggs and Edwards.   Renfrow should start the season with a bunch of targets but the targets should diminish as the rookies adapt to the NFL.    

 
Raiders have the glitz of Las Vegas but lack star power beyond Josh Jacobs

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Tyrell Williams, Hunter Renfrow, Henry Ruggs III, Bryan Edwards — who is the receiver you expect will outplay expectations the most?

Andy: Well, upon reading those names, I vomited. It made me want to scroll back up and just write more nice things about Josh Jacobs. This group of receivers is simply not a great bet in the season ahead. Ruggs and Edwards are interesting enough, but it won’t be easy for rookie wideouts to make a splash in 2020 coming off an unprecedented offseason. Renfrow is a pretty clear favorite to lead the Raiders in receptions this year, so let’s go with him. But I’m not specifically targeting anyone from this group.

Dalton: I worry about the decision-making with the Raiders, so this is a team I’ll be mostly avoiding in fantasy (despite now playing home games indoors). Renfrow, however, is the exception, as he finished 11th in yards per route run as a rookie and is the heavy favorite to lead Las Vegas in receiving this year. Renfrow is underrated in PPR formats right now.

Matt: If you squint at it, the Raiders have the makings of a solid receiver room with a diverse range of skillset. That doesn’t mean roles or usage will be easy to sort out. Hunter Renfrow is the only Raiders wide receiver with a Yahoo ADP (134.7) inside the top-100 players at the position. So, it wouldn’t exactly be that hard for any of these receivers to outperform expectations, as they are so low. My general policy for 2020 has been to fade rookies given the abnormal nature of this offseason. Ruggs and Edwards may be behind the curve when they do get to the facility. Williams could easily outkick projections if he’s past the foot issues that consistently nagged him in 2019 and the rookies don’t make a big impact. Neither is a lock. I’ll take late fliers on Renfrow and Williams but that’s about it for me.
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I disagree. I think it'll be the Ruggs and Waller show.

Williams and Renfrow will get the rest.

They have some fun depth but I can't imagine they get the practice time needed to show their stuff and unseat anyone. Still, one of their backups could take a little time away from Renfrow. Pierson-El looked sharp in the XFL. I have little doubt his game translates as it's based on speed and cuts, but can he get an opportunity? He's a 5-10 waterbug. Last year, several teams did use a speedy lil bugger here N there as a sub. Can Zay ever put it together? Is he a practice player? Then there's RAT who had an awesome camp with the Titans and somehow never got the opportunity to rise up in games. He trained with Mariota a bit, does that mean anything if they're both backups?

 
DeaLerZ said:
why is there not more talk on this guy?  Seems like a great steal later in drafts
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He will probably out produce his average draft position and until there are a lot more injuries on this unit he also won't be a good start. I think both of those things can be true. In his neighborhood of drafts I would rather gamble on a Preston Williams, Curtis Samuel, James Washington, Allen Lazard, Parris Campbell, etc. Not because I think they will necessarily do better, but because I think their ceilings are quite a bit higher. And that's how I build my bench. I'm not searching for a 60-800-5 option. I'm searching for guys that may be 1K+/8 TD types. I think the likelihood of that happening with Renfrow is very low unless multiple injuries reward him with the target share I think he needs (but the Raiders don't plan to give him).

 
I completely get what your saying, and it makes a lot of sense.

My thoughts are that Carr developed a really good rapport, and trust within Renfrow the last 7 games of the season.  

35 receptions

495 Yards

4 Tds

Over the course of a season he was on pace for about 80 receptions, 1130 yards, 9 Tds

Sure they got more weapons in the off season, but Renfrow is an excellent route runner, and has great after the catch ability.  There is a reason that Carr started targeting him on Third downs, and trusting him.  He was a play maker in college, and was the go to guy in the crunch.  Renfrow is a slot player, who should get somewhere between 4-7 catches a game on average.  That's pretty good for a guy going undrafted in leagues.  I am targeting him in all my drafts as a potential solid WR 3 with upside.

 
Hunter Renfrow caught 6-of-9 targets for 84 yards and one touchdown in the Raiders' Week 3 loss to the Patriots.

With Henry Ruggs inactive and Darren Waller taken away by the defense, Renfrow led the Raiders in targets, catches, and yards. He caught a late meaningless touchdown in the fourth quarter after having one taken away from him earlier in the day when he was ruled down at the one-yard line, setting up a Foster Moreau score. Renfrow had a combined 5-58-0 on five targets entering this one as the Raiders' slot man. He'll have better days when the Raiders are chasing points like today. He gets the Bills in Week 4.

Sep 27, 2020, 5:25 PM ET
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Hunter Renfrow caught 4-of-6 targets for 42 yards in Las Vegas' Week 7 loss to Tampa Bay.

With Henry Ruggs (2/35) healthy again, Renfrow has unsurprisingly totaled seven targets and 84 receiving yards in the Raiders' last two games. Nelson Agholor (5/107/1) suddenly being involved as the team's No. 1 receiver hasn't helped as Renfrow is no longer considered a viable re-draft option. He can be dropped in formats outside of dynasty leagues.

- Rotoworld
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Hunter Renfrow caught 7-of-9 targets for 73 yards in the Raiders' Week 12 loss to the Falcons.

Renfrow paced the Raiders in targets, catches, and yards on a day Vegas didn't find the end zone. His 73 yards were Renfrow's second most of the season, and he has just two touchdowns. He's not on the fantasy radar outside of deeper PPR formats.

- Rotoworld
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NFL Week 1 fantasy football questions and answers: 32 reporters give advice on Julio Jones, Ravens running backs, more

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Is there a pass-catcher not named Darren Waller who will see consistent volume?

Yes, or have you forgotten about Derek Carr's security blanket, the guy who goes by the nickname "Third-and-Renfrow"? Now, Hunter Renfrowis never going to light up the stat sheet -- he has 105 catches for 1,261 yards and 6 TDs in two seasons -- but he is consistent. And while the Raiders have big plans for speedster Henry Ruggs III, Carr needs time for those downfield plays to develop and the offensive line is still a work in progress. Renfrow's intermediate routes provide production. -- Paul Gutierrez
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Hunter Renfrow caught 6-of-9 targets for 70 yards in the Raiders' Week 1 win over the Ravens.

On a night Derek Carr uncorked 56 pass attempts, Renfrow's nine targets were a distant second on the team behind Darren Waller's 19. Renfrow also drew a critical DPI call at the goal line in the first half to set up Josh Jacobs' two-yard touchdown. Renfrow should rack up plenty of catches this year as Carr's slot man. He'll be a WR4/5 next week at Pittsburgh.
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Hunter Renfrow caught 5-of-6 targets for 77 yards and one score in Las Vegas' Week 3 overtime win against the Dolphins.

His 12-yard third-quarter touchdown was Renfrow's first of the year, encouragingly registering at least six targets from Derek Carr for the third consecutive game. The only issue is that five other players for Las Vegas — Darren Waller, Henry Ruggs, Bryan Edwards, Kenyan Drake, Peyton Barber — saw at least five targets on Sunday. Given how wide Las Vegas' target tree continues to be, Renfrow shouldn't be considered anything more than a thin WR4/5 for PPR leagues.
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Seems like the poor man's Cole Beasley. I'll be making a bid as my flex options have been really underwhelming and I just need a floor 

 
Hunter Renfrow caught 6-of-8 targets for 45 yards and one touchdown in the Raiders' Week 4 loss to the Raiders.

Renfrow led the team with his eight targets and is averaging 7.25 targets per game as the Raiders' slot man this season. He's now found the end zone in back-to-back games, turning defenders in circles with his route-running skills. Renfrow also made a huge play on special teams in this one, hit-sticking Tevaughn Campbell at the first-down line on a fake punt pass to force a big incompletion. Renfrow has settled in as a weekly WR4 in PPR-specific leagues and will be playable when bye weeks start hitting. He gets the Bears in Week 5.

Oct 5, 2021, 12:32 AM ET
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Hunter Renfrow caught 7-of-9 targets for 49 yards and a touchdown in the Raiders' Week 9 loss to the Giants.

Renfrow finished second on the team in targets and tied Darren Waller for a team-high in receptions. He picked up his third score of the year on a goal line snag in the first quarter. It would be the only touchdown the Raiders would score. Renfrow created separation and offered Derek Carr eas completions throughout the game as one of the few bright spots in an otherwise awful outing by Las Vegas. With Henry Ruggs off the team, expect the Raiders to continue opting for a shallow passing attack moving forward. That makes Renfrow a solid WR3 in PPR leagues versus the Chiefs next week.

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Hunter Renfrow caught 4-of-5 targets for 13 yards and two touchdowns in the Raiders' Week 18 win over the Chargers.

Renfrow's usage continued to trend downward. Darren Waller saw nine targets while Zay Jones earned eight looks. Jones has out-targeted Renfrow in four consecutive games now. With Waller back in the lineup and Jones taking more targets away from Renfrow, he will need to keep running hot on touchdowns to produce usable fantasy numbers. He's a risky option in DFS contests and playoff leagues heading into the Raiders' Wild Card matchup with the Bengals.

Jan 10, 2022, 1:46 AM ET
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New Raiders coach Josh McDaniels has called Hunter Renfrow "a big part of what we want to do."

"I have been really blessed to be around some really good slot receivers in my time, and I think coaching him is going to be one of those endeavors where you look back on it and go, ‘This guy was one of those guys,'" McDaniels said at the Combine. McDaniels isn't kidding that he has been around some great slot men. More importantly, it has also been a huge part of McDaniels/the Patriots' offensive attack. Hugely productive when forced into a bigger role last season by injury to Darren Waller and Henry Ruggs' release, Renfrow might not continue at his torrid post-Thanksgiving 2021 pace, but he is probably firmly established as an every-week WR3 going forward, with WR2 a real possibility. 

SOURCE: The Athletic 

Mar 3, 2022, 4:57 PM ET
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Wes Welker

People don't give Welker enough credit. He was a product of the system, blah blah blah. Look at his numbers for his six years in New England. Welker averaged 112 catches, 1,243 yards and six touchdowns per game. That's what he averaged. For six years. In the last six years, 12 times a player has caught 110 passes for 1,200 yards and six touchdowns. Welker averaged it for six years! Anyway, he doesn't get the credit he deserves. He's the third-best pass catcher Brady played with and if you took just the stats you might make the case for Welker over Moss. But Moss created the 2007 team and Welker never played on a Super Bowl winning team. 

Julian Edelman

There was some weird "Edelman for Hall of Fame" buzz going on during the week of the Super Bowl. Stop it. Edelman is a stud and a gamer but he isn't close to a Hall of Famer. He's got two 1,000-yard seasons. Edelman has the same mind-meld as Welker when it comes to the working with Brady in the middle of the field. You can't overstate the importance of sure-fire chain movers in this offense over the last decade-plus. Welker caught 80 percent (!) of his passes and Edelman has caught more than 66 percent of his passes. Edelman is a postseason monster too. Since he became a full-time player in 2014, Edelman's played in 12 playoff games and has more than 75 yards in 11 of those. 


 

David Patten

The similarity between Patten and Amendola is pretty striking. Both had fairly short runs with the Pats (who didn't?) and both ended up producing similar stat lines. Patten caught way less balls thrown his way and had way fewer receptions, but had a much higher yard per catch production. Like Amendola, he wasn't drafted by the Patriots but ground out some big years and Super Bowl wins for New England as a reliable weapon, although Patten was a much more dangerous deep threat than Amendola. 

Danny Amendola

Signed as a free agent, Amendola was a small, Caucasian slot receiver who played at Texas Tech. Sound familiar? Amendola's stats are wholly underwhelming and he's only ninth on the all-time list for Brady receivers, so this might be high. But he fits perfectly in the "Patriot Grit" portion of the program and would've been even higher in Patriot lore if New England beat the Eagles last year after his incredible performance in the postseason. 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-tom-bradys-41-best-receivers-during-his-18-year-9-super-bowl-run-with-patriots/

 
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massraider said:
Lil white slot guy caught 100 balls, THEN was joined by the Patriots offensive coach. 

Safest floor in the league? 
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I go back and forth on whether McDaniels helps. Was slot WR targeting by design, or was it Tom Brady? Because it wasn't so much the case under Newton/Jones, while Brady kept on targeting the slot with Chris Godwin in TB. 

Now, with the addition of Davante Adams, and the healthy return of Darren Waller, I'd be kinda surprised if Renfrow had anywhere to go but down. I love Renfrow the player, but fantasy wise, I'd probably have him as a WR4. I think 9 TD's will almost certainly come down, and he could fall back into about the 60 catch range.

4 of Renfrow's 5 biggest games came with Waller banged up, and after Ruggs was gone.

 
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When? With 4 team divisions. 
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Well just last year Arizona, LA and SF made in from NFC West.

ETA: sorry missed that it was 3 WC teams meaning all four teams would make it. That seems unlikely.

 
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Dr. Octopus said:
Well just last year Arizona, LA and SF made in from NFC West.

ETA: sorry missed that it was 3 WC teams meaning all four teams would make it. That seems unlikely.
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Just read that Vegas has the odds 20:1.  
i think it’s more likely that the south or north has two, but we’ll see. 

 
-OZ- said:
Just read that Vegas has the odds 20:1.  
i think it’s more likely that the south or north has two, but we’ll see. 
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I'm surprised the odds of 4 teams going to the playoff from one division are so short - even with all 4 teams being so good. The AFC North has 4 very good teams as well, and the South's top two teams get to beat up on Houston and Jasksonville. 

 
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