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WR Josh Gordon, KC (2 Viewers)
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Guarantee he'd make more than the 800k he's making now. Browns will trade him and they'll have partners with his current contract.
lod01
Footballguy
I suppose if they could get some good draft picks. Lord knows they need them now with no viable QB.
lod01
Footballguy
Exactly.
Talent used to trump all but now suspensions get handed out like parking tickets.
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
This feels like it has Rosenhaus written all over it.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
I thought that threshold was six games?No doubt in my mind that it played a part in their decision.Not tobut this sounds like a ploy to delay his FA status. No one will question it because of his reputation but the Browns are a pretty inept organization starting at the top.
Rookie_Whisperer
Footballguy
Those trade scenarios that make sense in fantasy circles rarely happen, unfortunately. If you trade him for a pick(s) you risk drafting Greg Little and MoMass again, which I would hope they've learned a lesson from. Also, I would bet Indy is still stinging from the TRich trade so I would rule them out, but that would be a great place for him, probably the best case.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
I'd agree if the players weren't gordon and manzielToo much of this stuff from players to be all on them, the coaching staff does not have the respect of the locker room.What a waste
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
Odd thing to say knowing that Chip wouldn't put up with Jackson.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
identikit
Footballguy
It is 6 games.I thought that threshold was six games?No doubt in my mind that it played a part in their decision.Not to
Gordon will have only played 5 this season.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Mike Williams 2.0
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
The fat Mike Williams who doesn't compare at all with Gordon in physique or talent or the cry baby, slacker Mike Williams that doesn't compare to Gordon in terms of talent.
IF there is a move I'd bet on New England. Usually they're wiling to take shots like this when they know they can easily cut the guy no harm, no foul. That could have changed with the echos of Hernandez. Usually being a bad/questionable character does not equal murderer though.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
As much as Gordon doesn't learn, you would think people have learned to stop writing off Gordon. Even a midseason rule change to benefit this guy out of nowhere cant convince people this guy has 1000 lives. So many things could be in play here. Tate got cut midseason and RBs get demoted for "bad practice." Are we talking about practice? Shoot Hoyer even gets threatened with his job and starts playing bad.
He got suspended for a meaningless Week 17 game, the team is definitely cutting him or trading him, and that is great news for Gordon and and Gordon owners.
R-E-L-A-X --- Relax. I wonder if he would have these problems playing for Billichick or Carroll? Maybe the Saints will need a new #12 at the end of this season.
He got suspended for a meaningless Week 17 game, the team is definitely cutting him or trading him, and that is great news for Gordon and and Gordon owners.
R-E-L-A-X --- Relax. I wonder if he would have these problems playing for Billichick or Carroll? Maybe the Saints will need a new #12 at the end of this season.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Ryan Swope's Pro Career
Footballguy
This, for the same reason I called Brandon Browner going to the Pats. The Patriots run a tight ship and aren't afraid to toss people overboard if they don't meet that standard. Still, ####### hate the franchise.
Gandalf
Footballguy
There is no way Gordon - with all of his disruptive behavior - winds up on the Pats.
Banger
Footballguy
Blount , moss and numerous others have gone there to reclaim their careers.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Mike Lombardi tried trading him away multiple times when he was with the Browns. Highly doubt now that he's on the pats staff, they trade for him.
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Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I think overall it's still doubtful he gets traded. As I stated previously I've got my tin foil hat on that the Browns are sleazily getting an extra year out of him on the cheap. That being said, it is not out of the question for a number of teams to take on the burden/risk associated with Gordon provided they have the structure. Cleveland tends to put good players, hell, even mediocre players on a pedestal if they show any signs of being competent. I can't imagine the Pats not being willing to take on the risk the same way they did with Moss, Dillon, Chad Johnson, Browner, Hernandez, Heynesworth... it's their MO. I also bet Jerry Jones would be drooling to pair Gordon and Bryant together and has also shown great willingness to take on high risk players. I'd also be curious to see if the Vikings wouldn't be willing to take him on as Norv was the one to feed him and Zimmer has a history in Dallas and Cincy of working with high risk/high reward players. The realm of possibilities is large given he's on a rookie contract and can easily be divorced from if he screws up. Probably why he is still with and will likely remain with the Browns.
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Jerry Curl
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Hey it could be a ploy forcing the Browns hand.
On the other hand risking losing that year of free agency doesn't seem like it would help towards making more money more quickly. Still, get traded to a team with a good to great QB, renegotiate a new extended contract, and things suddenly look brighter and richer. Put yourself in the shoes of Rosenhaus and Gordon, how does the prospect of starting next year with Manziel or free agent QB X sound?
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I agree with this I think Pettine is moving on, he is changing to change the character of the team (as he sees it).
As for the Saints, that would be awesome and exciting for everyone, but NO may not be the best town for a guy struggling with pot and partying and they have their own strictures about having good character. They did try to trade for Lynch though (offered more than Seattle actually) and they will trade draft picks. They need a WR of Gordon's caliber badly. But again things have been shaky lately in terms of team and locker room chemistry.
Belicheck respects him enough to have him on staff, not sure what's so funny about that. The patriots front office knows more about Gordon's transgressions than 30 other organizations.Lombardi?
Gandalf
Footballguy
Blount does not step out of line when he is on the Pats. BB had worked with him before. The issues with Gordon feel different. A repeated pattern of violating team rules despite terrible consequences to his career and football team. There is no way.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Gordon on the Patriots will act differently than Gordon on the Browns. Culture is huge, its not just coincidence this team has issue after issue but the Patriots manage to work with players other teams cant.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Nearing FA, they'll deal him for peanuts. Think Santonio Holmes Jets price.
I'm not sure why people believe the price will be high. This is a franchise that has no intention of paying him. Something instead of nothing will be their mindset.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Pettine wants him gone, JG doesn't fit what he is doing. Yes he is that talented, there will be takers, probably on draft day for a 5th or so.
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jurb26
Footballguy
He's a lot better than Holmes ever was. It's always a nice concept to think players are going to be traded when their contracts are nearing end and the team doesn't want tot resign them. It rarely actually happens that way in the NFL, though.
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Yep. Someone will take a chance.
Price won't be an issue. Could see a late rounder that could turn into mid rounder based on performance.
Browns' frustrations over Josh Gordon, Johnny Manziel growing:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24919509/browns-frustrations-over-josh-gordon-johnny-manziel-growing
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24919509/browns-frustrations-over-josh-gordon-johnny-manziel-growing
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Andy Reid and the Chiefs
pats got all of those players for dirt cheap. youd be insande to think they wouldnt pick up gordon for next to nothing.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
He's gotta stay clean for 1 offseason before anyone thinks about giving something up for hum.
massraider
Footballguy
The action of suspending him for one game, removing one year of accrued service, simultaneously ruins his relationship with Cleveland, and maybe makes him more attractive in trade.
That's my first thought anyway. It certainly looks like the Browns are done with him.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
when smoking weed is vastly more important than a $100 million dollar NFL career .... that tells you the power of weed and the ignorance of some people
I hope the guy never plays again- that harsh reality might actually sink in and force him into action
I hope the guy never plays again- that harsh reality might actually sink in and force him into action
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Gandalf
Footballguy
Okay - if the Pats could get Gordon super cheap (unlikely) and BB felt that he would miraculously change his oppositional nature (unlikely) then, yes, the Patriots would take a chance. But since neither of those things are happening I will stick to my original point of view on this. No way.cvnpoka said:
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Gets
he wasn't supposed to play this season anywaymassraider said:
massraider
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
I'm far from a hater but I'm not going to make excuses for pure idiocy. I owned him since he came in the league and traded him a couple weeks back. The guy is a pro and has been given multiple chances and he's burning one after another. Not sure how you can view the situation any other way.Supremely talented but is absolutely wasting it and costing himself millions and millions with his antics.Jerry Curl said:
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