WR Josh Gordon, KC (9 Viewers)

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

I think I just had my Carl Brutananadilewski Soulfly moment with regards to Gordon.

It makes no sense for the league to drag out this process. If it was going to be for a year, why not deal with it sooner? If the clock starts ticking from the moment of the suspension, they'd do everything they could to expedite the process, and surely Rosenhaus and the Browns would be pushing them to do so.

I had been assuming a year for him, but at this point it just hit me that I really don't think he'll be out for the whole year just based on the way this whole thing is being dealt with.

Nothing new to see here, I'm just someone who was pretty convinced he'd been gone for a while and now I'm not so sure.

And, by the way, I totally read all of Soulfly's tweets in the voice of his avatar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez8_4r7GD00

As others have said, it's unlikely the Gordon case is taking any longer than any other suspension announcement. The difference is, the other ones didn't leak out through the media. Gordon also is choosing to appeal his suspension whereas others may not have done so.

It sounds like the league has notified him that he will be issued a year long suspension and he will having a hearing to get that reduced or thrown out, and it sound like his argument is that some rule or protocol was not followed correctly. It still remains to be seen if he will win his appeal or not.

At what point do we possibly have evidence that this isn't the case, though? I mean, the info was leaked a long time ago, and I would guess most suspensions get appealed. So the question then becomes: How many players get the ban hammer dropped on them after training camp has started?

If the system is: Player notified in April, appeal heard August 1, that is a long time for the due process to take place, especially considering the importance of the time. I'm just thinking that the system (which I admittedly do not know how it works, and not many do) surely can't be set up to take that long just as part of standard operating procedure. Maybe I'm wrong though. Let's use the Ray Rice example. It's being reported that he has the right to appeal his suspension now that it's been handed down. Does that mean his appeal wouldn't be heard until mid-late October if he chose to? Surely the system is designed to be more efficient than that.

Anyway, I'm feeling very hat about this all of a sudden, just wanted to share my change of heart I had today. At the end of the day, none of us know, but we'll find out soon!

Ha, I see you just backed up the talk in Anarchy 6.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

I think I just had my Carl Brutananadilewski Soulfly moment with regards to Gordon.

It makes no sense for the league to drag out this process. If it was going to be for a year, why not deal with it sooner? If the clock starts ticking from the moment of the suspension, they'd do everything they could to expedite the process, and surely Rosenhaus and the Browns would be pushing them to do so.

I had been assuming a year for him, but at this point it just hit me that I really don't think he'll be out for the whole year just based on the way this whole thing is being dealt with.

Nothing new to see here, I'm just someone who was pretty convinced he'd been gone for a while and now I'm not so sure.

And, by the way, I totally read all of Soulfly's tweets in the voice of his avatar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez8_4r7GD00

As others have said, it's unlikely the Gordon case is taking any longer than any other suspension announcement. The difference is, the other ones didn't leak out through the media. Gordon also is choosing to appeal his suspension whereas others may not have done so.

It sounds like the league has notified him that he will be issued a year long suspension and he will having a hearing to get that reduced or thrown out, and it sound like his argument is that some rule or protocol was not followed correctly. It still remains to be seen if he will win his appeal or not.

This must be the 50th time in this thread that someone has had to point out this fact.

Josh Gordon Thread: Come for the news, stay for the Soulfly!

Yeah, the first 10 times when it was pointed out 60 days ago people had a point. By now, I'm starting to think not so much.

 

[Chaka]

On fansided.com

The NFL’s receiving yards leader from a season ago will meet with the NFL on Aug. 1 to have his appeal hearing heard and could be facing an indefinite suspension according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen. However, Mortsensen also mentioned on Friday’s “NFL Live” that Gordon could get off on a technicality and could be available for Cleveland.

Wait, that link is referencing that dudes tweet who no one has heard of haha, what is this..

Shouldn't it be easy to verify if Mort said that on NFL Live?

 

[Soulfly3]

My goodness it's starting to get cozy in here finally

Nice for a change to see some changing of opinion

 

[Bayhawks]

If the system is: Player notified in April, appeal heard August 1, that is a long time for the due process to take place, especially considering the importance of the time. I'm just thinking that the system (which I admittedly do not know how it works, and not many do) surely can't be set up to take that long just as part of standard operating procedure. Maybe I'm wrong though. Let's use the Ray Rice example. It's being reported that he has the right to appeal his suspension now that it's been handed down. Does that mean his appeal wouldn't be heard until mid-late October if he chose to? Surely the system is designed to be more efficient than that.
Anyway, I'm feeling very hat about this all of a sudden, just wanted to share my change of heart I had today. At the end of the day, none of us know, but we'll find out soon!

I hope that this technicality holds up & Gordon gets off, my dynasty team becomes much stronger.

That being said, Rice knocked his fiancee out in February, and he just found out about his suspension yesterday. If Gordon was notified of his failed test in April, the time frames between the two incidents (beat the crap out of a woman/failed tests) and the outcome of those events are very similar.

I don't know if the time that has lapsed means anything.

 

[Sabertooth]

Love this news.

 

[False Start]

So because of a technicality, does that mean he never got arrested for a DUI and that he wasnt with someone in his car who had weed? Yup, I hope this guy gets off. Its amazing a guy breaks the rules over and over (if they should be rules or not is for another discussion I am in favor of) and people want him to get off because of Rice getting a jacked suspension. What type of message does that show?

 

[cstu]

So because of a technicality, does that mean he never got arrested for a DUI and that he wasnt with someone in his car who had weed? Yup, I hope this guy gets off. Its amazing a guy breaks the rules over and over (if they should be rules or not is for another discussion I am in favor of) and people want him to get off because of Rice getting a jacked suspension. What type of message does that show?

It doesn't matter to Gordon owners what he's done, they want him back on the field. Hernandez owners never wanted to accept reality either.

 

[Soulfly3]

Has ANYONE in NFL history been suspended because someone else in their car had weed on them?

Just asking.

 

[Sabertooth]

Huh? Has hasn't been suspended yet. Nor has he gotten off yet because of a technicality. Those stating that "Rules are Rules" may or may not be correct. I tend to think there are rules for guys like Lavon Brazil and there are rules for guys like Josh Gordon and Aldon Smith. That's just life man.

I tend to think Gordon is going to get off with a slap on the wrist and when people ask Goodell, he's going to say "that's confidential."

Nobody will ever even know if he pissed hot, missed a test, both, neither.

 

[Sabertooth]

So because of a technicality, does that mean he never got arrested for a DUI and that he wasnt with someone in his car who had weed? Yup, I hope this guy gets off. Its amazing a guy breaks the rules over and over (if they should be rules or not is for another discussion I am in favor of) and people want him to get off because of Rice getting a jacked suspension. What type of message does that show?

It doesn't matter to Gordon owners what he's done, they want him back on the field. Hernandez owners never wanted to accept reality either.

What has he done? We don't really know do we? He got arrested. We know that. But not convicted.

 

[Sake-Bombers]

So because of a technicality, does that mean he never got arrested for a DUI and that he wasnt with someone in his car who had weed? Yup, I hope this guy gets off. Its amazing a guy breaks the rules over and over (if they should be rules or not is for another discussion I am in favor of) and people want him to get off because of Rice getting a jacked suspension. What type of message does that show?

Hadn't really considered what I want to happen here. I think I probably want this guy to get the help he needs and his life back on track. Never to drive drunk and not to foolishly waste talent that so many of us wish we had. As far as a suspension, I can't say I'm sure what I want.

Now what do I think will happen? Until today I thought he'd be suspended for at least a year. Actually hadn't even read that "report" and don't put on any more stock in it than i think I should considering the source. But something today got me questioning the timing of this, something others have done before me.

I also think the potential suspension for marijuana/missed test/whatever is separate from the DUI and other incident. I don't think they'd decrease his suspension given that info, but also don't think they can just double it or whatever because of them. If anything they may need to suspend or punish him separately for that. So I am saying that something seems weird with the yearlong suspension to me.

I really am just trying to clarify my viewpoint here because I may have been misunderstood. This whole situation seems as clear as purple drank.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

On fansided.com

The NFL’s receiving yards leader from a season ago will meet with the NFL on Aug. 1 to have his appeal hearing heard and could be facing an indefinite suspension according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen. However, Mortsensen also mentioned on Friday’s “NFL Live” that Gordon could get off on a technicality and could be available for Cleveland.

Wait, that link is referencing that dudes tweet who no one has heard of haha, what is this..

Not to rain on the parade, but......If the length of suspension is set in stone by the players agreement, and Gordons team is appealing said suspension...Then only two things can happen ...he is suspended a year or he gets off on a technicality. So yes he could get off on a technicality ...As far as I'm concerned they are just stating the obvious.

 

[Sabertooth]

How exciting.

 

[cstu]

So because of a technicality, does that mean he never got arrested for a DUI and that he wasnt with someone in his car who had weed? Yup, I hope this guy gets off. Its amazing a guy breaks the rules over and over (if they should be rules or not is for another discussion I am in favor of) and people want him to get off because of Rice getting a jacked suspension. What type of message does that show?

It doesn't matter to Gordon owners what he's done, they want him back on the field. Hernandez owners never wanted to accept reality either.

What has he done? We don't really know do we? He got arrested. We know that. But not convicted.

We know that he blew .09 and was in a car that smelled enough of weed that a cop searched it and found weed in the car.

His lawyer may get the DUI charge dropped but it doesn't change what he did.

 

[Soulfly3]

So because of a technicality, does that mean he never got arrested for a DUI and that he wasnt with someone in his car who had weed? Yup, I hope this guy gets off. Its amazing a guy breaks the rules over and over (if they should be rules or not is for another discussion I am in favor of) and people want him to get off because of Rice getting a jacked suspension. What type of message does that show?

It doesn't matter to Gordon owners what he's done, they want him back on the field. Hernandez owners never wanted to accept reality either.

What has he done? We don't really know do we? He got arrested. We know that. But not convicted.

We know that he blew .09 and was in a car that smelled enough of weed that a cop searched it and found weed in the car.

His lawyer may get the DUI charge dropped but it doesn't change what he did.

What happened to beast mode after his dui was dropped?

 

[rct]

Has ANYONE in NFL history been suspended because someone else in their car had weed on them?

Just asking.

Has ANYONE been given leniency in the NFL from Goodell by reducing a suspension because someone else in their car had some weed?

Just sayin'

 

[Soulfly3]

Has ANYONE been given leniency in the NFL from Goodell by reducing a suspension because someone else in their car had some weed?

Just sayin'

............. what?

 

[Soulfly3]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

alcohol?

 

[Soulfly3]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

alcohol?

You have said all along "missed test"...He blows .09 and you think he went to rehab for alcohol??? As I suspected...not a legit response. Why not just admit it is fishy instead of continuing to lower your credibility...or are you just "stirring it up" again?

he went to rehab after a DUI

why cant it be for alcohol?

jesus... you ask for an answer... i give you one... and then you complain that I gave you one.

 

[Sake-Bombers]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

alcohol?

You have said all along "missed test"...He blows .09 and you think he went to rehab for alcohol??? As I suspected...not a legit response. Why not just admit it is fishy instead of continuing to lower your credibility...or are you just "stirring it up" again?

Am I a Gordon backer? Don't personally think so but I did try and address this point earlier. I think that the suspension under review and the DUI are unrelated. I think he went to rehab because he got the DUI. Will probably help him get out of it. And also because he needs to for image repair.

That said, as far as the suspension, no idea what it's for but I think it's definitely possible he tested positive for something that would necessitate rehab, but that either he is not in stage 3 of there's a weird technicality causing the timeline funkiness. But either way rehab is good for him and his habits as well as his public image.

 

[Sabertooth]

So because of a technicality, does that mean he never got arrested for a DUI and that he wasnt with someone in his car who had weed? Yup, I hope this guy gets off. Its amazing a guy breaks the rules over and over (if they should be rules or not is for another discussion I am in favor of) and people want him to get off because of Rice getting a jacked suspension. What type of message does that show?

It doesn't matter to Gordon owners what he's done, they want him back on the field. Hernandez owners never wanted to accept reality either.

What has he done? We don't really know do we? He got arrested. We know that. But not convicted.

We know that he blew .09 and was in a car that smelled enough of weed that a cop searched it and found weed in the car.

His lawyer may get the DUI charge dropped but it doesn't change what he did.

So. What did he do exactly? He blew a .09 allegedly.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

The "being in the car with someone who has weed" doesn't look good, but the fact is Gordon was given nothing more than a speeding ticket. Never really worried about that one as far as a suspension (other than it's a bad sign he's hanging with the wrong people) goes. The DUI is a little more dicey, for sure.

Still, I wish the people who clearly either traded Gordon for peanuts or are just hoping their dynasty league competition won't have their stud WR would quit with the "weed on someone in his car" thing. It's not a big deal. He wasn't popped for it.

 

[Soulfly3]

The "being in the car with someone who has weed" doesn't look good, but the fact is Gordon was given nothing more than a speeding ticket. Never really worried about that one as far as a suspension (other than it's a bad sign he's hanging with the wrong people) goes. The DUI is a little more dicey, for sure.

Still, I wish the people who clearly either traded Gordon for peanuts or are just hoping their dynasty league competition won't have their stud WR would quit with the "weed on someone in his car" thing. It's not a big deal. He wasn't popped for it.

Its actually a huge deal... Look what happened to dwayne bowe las.... Errrr... Nevermind

 

[Bayhawks]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

alcohol?

You have said all along "missed test"...He blows .09 and you think he went to rehab for alcohol??? As I suspected...not a legit response. Why not just admit it is fishy instead of continuing to lower your credibility...or are you just "stirring it up" again?

Am I a Gordon backer? Don't personally think so but I did try and address this point earlier. I think that the suspension under review and the DUI are unrelated. I think he went to rehab because he got the DUI. Will probably help him get out of it. And also because he needs to for image repair.

That said, as far as the suspension, no idea what it's for but I think it's definitely possible he tested positive for something that would necessitate rehab, but that either he is not in stage 3 of there's a weird technicality causing the timeline funkiness. But either way rehab is good for him and his habits as well as his public image.

Again, THERE MAY NOT BE ANY "TIMELINE FUNKINESS." The Gordon "timeline" dovetails with the Ray Rice "timeline," and if you look it up (or go back about 30-40 pages), you'll see that Gordon's "timeline" isn't all that different from Fred Davis' who also had his test results leaked before his appeal and suspension announcement.

People keep saying "this is taking a long time," but based on the few situations that we have knowledge of, it doesn't really seem that out of whack.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

Or, and I haven't seen this hypothesized yet, he never pissed positive in the first place, so he is not too concerned about any potential consequences. Maybe he feels it will all work out since he never smoked, and that it will all come to light. So he went on about things (hanging with his idiot friends, thinking he was okay to drive after a few drinks) as normal. And like some have said, went to rehab as part of the agreement with the court for the DWI. Just a thought I hadn't considered previously...

 

[Soulfly3]

Just throwing this out there... But JG was busted for DUI. Meaning he was, by law, drunk...

Drunk means stupid, right?

I wonder then, why wasnt he busted w weed in the car? He was obviously partying. And according to all the detectives in here, the weed was his during his speeding ticket...

Just curious how a drunk, party boy pothead didnt get busted w weed TWICE in two pullovers

 

[cstu]

Just throwing this out there... But JG was busted for DUI. Meaning he was, by law, drunk...

Drunk means stupid, right?

I wonder then, why wasnt he busted w weed in the car? He was obviously partying. And according to all the detectives in here, the weed was his during his speeding ticket...

Just curious how a drunk, party boy pothead didnt get busted w weed TWICE in two pullovers

He smoked it all.

 

[Soulfly3]

Just throwing this out there... But JG was busted for DUI. Meaning he was, by law, drunk...

Drunk means stupid, right?

I wonder then, why wasnt he busted w weed in the car? He was obviously partying. And according to all the detectives in here, the weed was his during his speeding ticket...

Just curious how a drunk, party boy pothead didnt get busted w weed TWICE in two pullovers

He smoked it all.

They dont test drivers for drugs in the USA? Im going to assume yes.

I mean, you get DUI's for more than just alcohol, right?

 

[cstu]

Just throwing this out there... But JG was busted for DUI. Meaning he was, by law, drunk...

Drunk means stupid, right?

I wonder then, why wasnt he busted w weed in the car? He was obviously partying. And according to all the detectives in here, the weed was his during his speeding ticket...

Just curious how a drunk, party boy pothead didnt get busted w weed TWICE in two pullovers

He smoked it all.

They dont test drivers for drugs in the USA? Im going to assume yes.

I mean, you get DUI's for more than just alcohol, right?

Generally, no, they do not. The only reliable test is a blood test and cops usually don't want to bother.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

just a question that may seem silly for soulfly.....what is your person limitation to defending J.G ...what woud he have to do for you to say ''im done with this jackwagon''

 

[Clifford]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

alcohol?

You have said all along "missed test"...He blows .09 and you think he went to rehab for alcohol??? As I suspected...not a legit response. Why not just admit it is fishy instead of continuing to lower your credibility...or are you just "stirring it up" again?

So your alcoholism should only be measured by your BAC when you get pulled over? Did you think this through?

 

[Soulfly3]

just a question that may seem silly for soulfly.....what is your person limitation to defending J.G ...what woud he have to do for you to say ''im done with this jackwagon''

I wont "be done with him" . These guys are football players. Entertainers.

They dont directly impact my life

He sits the year, Ill be pissed at him for ####### my Browns, and my personal entertainment... But Im not done w a guy cuz he likes to smoke herb

 

[Soulfly3]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

alcohol?

You have said all along "missed test"...He blows .09 and you think he went to rehab for alcohol??? As I suspected...not a legit response. Why not just admit it is fishy instead of continuing to lower your credibility...or are you just "stirring it up" again?

So your alcoholism should only be measured by your BAC when you get pulled over? Did you think this through?

Clearly no, but have we seen or heard anything about him having an alcohol problem? Did you think that through?

So we have to have heard of it for him to have one?

Listen, I know you tried to burn me... But it seriously backfired

 

[BustedKnuckles]

just a question that may seem silly for soulfly.....what is your person limitation to defending J.G ...what woud he have to do for you to say ''im done with this jackwagon''

I wont "be done with him" . These guys are football players. Entertainers.

They dont directly impact my life

He sits the year, Ill be pissed at him for ####### my Browns, and my personal entertainment... But Im not done w a guy cuz he likes to smoke herb

by ''done'' i meant defending

 

[12punch]

considering he's out of football now could somebody move this to ffa?

 

[Soulfly3]

just a question that may seem silly for soulfly.....what is your person limitation to defending J.G ...what woud he have to do for you to say ''im done with this jackwagon''

I wont "be done with him" . These guys are football players. Entertainers.

They dont directly impact my life

He sits the year, Ill be pissed at him for ####### my Browns, and my personal entertainment... But Im not done w a guy cuz he likes to smoke herb

by ''done'' i meant defending

what's really left to defend if he gets 16 games?

Ill still defend the fact that he's getting 16 games for smoking weed and rice got 2 for giving his woman the mike tyson treatment...

but whatever.

 

[rct]

just a question that may seem silly for soulfly.....what is your person limitation to defending J.G ...what woud he have to do for you to say ''im done with this jackwagon''

I wont "be done with him" . These guys are football players. Entertainers.

They dont directly impact my life

One who would objectively view your many posts in this thread might feel otherwise.

 

[Soulfly3]

I really really REALLY hope you don't take yourself seriously....let me get this straight...so your argument/defense now is he may have an alcohol problem???

your shoulder stiff from all that reaching?

 

[jdswan922]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

alcohol?

You have said all along "missed test"...He blows .09 and you think he went to rehab for alcohol??? As I suspected...not a legit response. Why not just admit it is fishy instead of continuing to lower your credibility...or are you just "stirring it up" again?

So your alcoholism should only be measured by your BAC when you get pulled over? Did you think this through?

Clearly no, but have we seen or heard anything about him having an alcohol problem? Did you think that through?

So we have to have heard of it for him to have one?

Listen, I know you tried to burn me... But it seriously backfired

I really really REALLY hope you don't take yourself seriously....let me get this straight...so your argument/defense now is he may have an alcohol problem???

Actually, attorneys typically recommend going to rehab after receiving a DUI/DWI prior to appearing before the court in an effort to get a reduced charge (or possibly none at all). So, he very well may have gone to rehab for the DUI, while at the same time, simply missing a piss test and subsequently passing a piss test. It seems that you have been using the "Jump to Conclusions Mat."

 

[Soulfly3]

Actually, attorneys typically recommend going to rehab after receiving a DUI/DWI prior to appearing before the court in an effort to get a reduced charge (or possibly none at all). So, he very well may have gone to rehab for the DUI, while at the same time, simply missing a piss test and subsequently passing a piss test. It seems that you have been using the "Jump to Conclusions Mat."

Save your breath. Seriously

 

[Soulfly3]

Wouldnt getting a DUI, which is illegal, which could affect your career... Be considered an issue?

So going to rehab for that issue would be a wise thing. Yes?

 

[Ojaays]

Wouldnt getting a DUI, which is illegal, which could affect your career... Be considered an issue?

So going to rehab for that issue would be a wise thing. Yes?

It was a DWI, not a DUI.

The DWI will go away rather easily as it's only a .09. Any fresh faced law school grad can get that reduced.

It's good that Gordon entered rehab, it gives Goodell some cover.

I'm calling my shot right now after reading a certain insiders board, Gordon plays 16 games in 2014.

 

[Soulfly3]

dwi and dui are interchangable as far as I know.

i think, anyways... In canada it's all DUI

 

[Soulfly3]

Wouldnt getting a DUI, which is illegal, which could affect your career... Be considered an issue?

So going to rehab for that issue would be a wise thing. Yes?

His issue is substance abuse with quite a bit of stupidity mixed in. The folks talking about him getting help/turning things around were referring to the substance issue not his faking help to avoid a DUI charge...Right?

I cant answer for other people

 

[Kevrunner]

Did Gordon just "miss" his drug test or is that just speculation from Greg Little's comment?

 

[cstu]

Wouldnt getting a DUI, which is illegal, which could affect your career... Be considered an issue?

So going to rehab for that issue would be a wise thing. Yes?

It was a DWI, not a DUI.

The DWI will go away rather easily as it's only a .09. Any fresh faced law school grad can get that reduced.

It's good that Gordon entered rehab, it gives Goodell some cover.

I'm calling my shot right now after reading a certain insiders board, Gordon plays 16 games in 2014.

North Carolina DWI Myths:

My lawyer will be able to get a reduction in the DWI charge to a lesser crime! This is the most common myth. It comes from a belief that DWIs are routinely reduced to other crimes as a result of a plea bargain with the Wake County District Attorney or other prosecutor. This myth comes from people who have had friends or family who either in the past, or in other jurisdictions, have had their case handled by a reduction to a lesser included offense. For instance, while I don't practice law in New York, my understanding is that there is a lesser-included charge that commonly is the result of a plea bargain. Such reductions do not apply in North Carolina. As a result of N.C.G.S. 20-179.4, which explicitly makes DWI pleas difficult, the older practice of quietly reducing a DWI to a lesser charge (such as a careless and reckless) no longer happens except in very rare cases, especially in Wake County where the District Attorney has a long-standing policy against pleading down DWIs. The truth of the matter is that your case is either going to be won or lost after a trial, unless the State has trouble bringing a witness - such as the officer, an outside witness, or a chemical analyst - to court to prove your guilt.

 

[Sake-Bombers]

wow...a report that cannot be found in writing anywhere, that is only speculation even IF Mort said it, has people going all Soulfy... For those speculating he just missed a test...Are you all just ignoring that he went to rehab??? FOR WHAT? a missed test? a .09 alcohol level? I agree it was to demonstrate he is committed to getting better, but if all he did is miss a test, what is he trying to get better at? Did he go to, Chronic missed test addiction rehab?

I get hoping for the news to be positive, but the lack of logic of the Gordon owners is unreal

Funny how all the Gordon backers respond all other posts but this one. Whats the matter guys...no answers for my questions???

alcohol?

You have said all along "missed test"...He blows .09 and you think he went to rehab for alcohol??? As I suspected...not a legit response. Why not just admit it is fishy instead of continuing to lower your credibility...or are you just "stirring it up" again?

Am I a Gordon backer? Don't personally think so but I did try and address this point earlier. I think that the suspension under review and the DUI are unrelated. I think he went to rehab because he got the DUI. Will probably help him get out of it. And also because he needs to for image repair.That said, as far as the suspension, no idea what it's for but I think it's definitely possible he tested positive for something that would necessitate rehab, but that either he is not in stage 3 of there's a weird technicality causing the timeline funkiness. But either way rehab is good for him and his habits as well as his public image.

Again, THERE MAY NOT BE ANY "TIMELINE FUNKINESS." The Gordon "timeline" dovetails with the Ray Rice "timeline," and if you look it up (or go back about 30-40 pages), you'll see that Gordon's "timeline" isn't all that different from Fred Davis' who also had his test results leaked before his appeal and suspension announcement.People keep saying "this is taking a long time," but based on the few situations that we have knowledge of, it doesn't really seem that out of whack.

I can definitely accept that there may not be any timeline funkiness, especially if timeline for previous cases comparable. I just personally have become slightly skeptical that Gordon, Rosenhaus, Browns and heck even the NFL wouldn't be able to expedite this any quicker if it really was one year at stake. I mean, if the appeal doesn't have any merit, then it would be better to not do it at all and start serving in April instead of prolonging the start of serving to the middle of training camp.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

All i know is i am allowed to keep 2 players every year from my previous year ....and i kept J.Charles and Zac Stacy....i wanted to keep J.Gordan over Stacy...i told my commish that if Gordan beats this rap im keeping him and dropping stacy...so i pray you are right mr soulfly...im rooting for J.G

 

[FBG Moderator]

I really really REALLY hope you don't take yourself seriously....let me get this straight...so your argument/defense now is he may have an alcohol problem???

your shoulder stiff from all that reaching?

ooooh good one

We've made multiple posts in here over the last few days asking for people to stop taking jabs at other posters and just discuss Josh Gordon as a football player.

If either of you decide to post in here again once your posting privileges return, please try to follow these requests better.