Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
He looks to be one of your local A.M. guys and columnist....Covers all Cleveland sports....Are you familiar with him?
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
WR Josh Gordon, KC (11 Viewers)
- Thread starter Matt Waldman
- Start date
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Never heard his name.
But it was seriously a poor read. Has nothing to do with his stance, because I dont care about his stance as long as it's well written. There have been articles posted here about why Gordon should be banned and I applauded the article for at least being thought provoking and based on fact.
This guy is a complete Tuna. Who writes in an article that Gordon played rock-paper-scissors and then paid off whoever took the fall?
Oh, and adding "probably" to it, doesn't make it any better. That was an attention whore article.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Well anyway it got me wondering if due to the traffic stop, if the NFL tested Gordon afterwards...I don't remember anybody posting that thought line up till now (I haven't read every post)...
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
All the nitpicking and homer optimism in the world doesn't change the above, and that is really the only thing that matters about Gordon moving forward. It's probably a coin flip that he ever catches another NFL pass.
Last edited by a moderator:
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Pretty sure it takes time to collect a sample, send it to the lab, do the tests, get the results, and make a decision. When I worked in the field, there was a 2-3 week turnaround on drug screens. Considering the stakes involved, I really doubt that the NFL is using those inaccurate insta read home test cups.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
Soulfly3
Footballguy
If he was already on the cusp, or as 99% of you seem to believe, guaranteed getting a year off, you dont think failing ANOTHER test during his appeal would make the decision instantaneous?
Pretty clear to me there's more going on behind the scenes.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
I think assuming it means it benefits Gordon or not is completely up for debate.
If there is so much overwhelming evidence against him as so many believe, this is an open and shut case.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
I dont need to find comfort in anything.
It's as much an assumption on my part as it is on those who say it means nothing.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
It seems like the only thing that would be holding up the announcement of punishment would be in the appeals process...Maybe whatever protection the player has thru the Union drags it out....All I know...This is frustrating!
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Soulfly....i am publicly apologizing for my rude post towards you...it was out of my nature and un-called for...it wont happen again ...i hope all of your predictions of a lesser suspension come true as i would love to retain him in my keeper league.
Last edited by a moderator:
ghostguy123
Footballguy
No not really.
I stated about 10 times already that most other legal prescription medications are worse for your body than marijuana taken from a vaporizer.
I am aware that it is POSSIBLE for marijuana to cause problems. But as I said, I am also aware those problems and the frequency of those problems are no worse than hundreds of other LEGAL and NON BANNED substances.
CentralPA
Footballguy
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
:IBTL: ...This thread has gone way off topic
Dragon1952
Footballguy
And on a related note........
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Men who report watching a lot of pornography tend to have less volume and activity in regions of the brain linked to rewards and motivation, says a new German study.
The study, published in JAMA Psychiatry, can't say watching porn caused the decrease in brain matter and activity, however.
It's not clear, for example, whether watching porn leads to brain changes or whether people born with certain brain types watch more porn, said Simone Kühn, the study’s lead author from the Max Planck Institute for Human Development in Berlin, in an email.
“Unfortunately we cannot answer this question based on the results of the present study,” Kühn said.
But, she noted, the results provide the first evidence for a link between pornography consumption and reductions in brain size and brain activity in response to sexual stimuli.
For the study, she and her colleague Jurgen Gallinat from Charite University, also in Berlin, recruited 64 healthy men between the ages of 21 and 45 years and asked them questions about their porn-watching habits. They also took images of the men’s brains to measure volume and to see how their brains reacted to pornographic pictures.
“We found that the volume of the so-called striatum, a brain region that has been associated with reward processing and motivated behavior was smaller the more pornography consumption the participants reported,” Kühn said.
“Moreover we found that another brain region, that is also part of the striatum that is active when people see sexual stimuli, shows less activation the more pornography participants consumed,” she added.
What’s more, the researchers found that the connection between the striatum and prefrontal cortex, which is the outer layer of the brain associated with behavior and decision making, worsened with increased porn watching.
Because the study can’t prove that porn caused the changes to the brain, Kühn said it’s not possible to say whether watching porn is actually harmful.
“Everything is going to be bad in excess and it’s probably not terrible in moderation,” Dr. Gregory Tau of the Columbia University / New York State Psychiatric Institute in New York said.
Tau, who was not involved with the study, agreed that more research should be done in this area and that longer studies would be need to find out if porn leads to brain changes.
“It is possible that there are individuals with a certain kind of brain that are more susceptible to these kinds of behaviors,” he said. “Or, it’s possible it’s the excessive use (of porn) that’s perpetuating itself to causing brain changes. Or, it could be both.”
Kühn said other behaviors, such as driving a taxi, are linked to changes to brain size and functioning.
“Basically everything that people do very frequently can shape their brain structure and function,” she said.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Over use of anything is bad. Why are we talking about chronic and constant usage anyway? People are more tham capable of smoking some dub once in a while. Doesn't have to be 14 times a day.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
DaveGrumbles
Footballguy
I gotta think what Greg Little said a few weeks back was probably the most important info we've had so far. He said "It’s something that wasn’t in his control, so to speak. I don’t want to get into too much detail about it."jurb26 said:
To me that sounds like this isn't just a cut and dried failed test and the NFL is just doing due diligence so they drop the appropriate sized hammer on a high profile player. To me that actually seems like worse news for Josh Gordon though. If this was just deciding between 6 or 8 games, I think Goodell would have already made a decision. I think he's taking his time because he may be comtemplating a long (indefinite?) suspension and doesn't wanna be too quick on the trigger with something that serious.
grateful zed
Footballguy
when is the show scheduled?ghostguy123 said:
johnadams
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Dismattle
Footballguy
How many hoping, and/or believe its possible that Rosenhaus told the Truth?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/13/jimmy-haslam-expects-josh-gordon-around-for-a-long-time-to-come/ I’ve been very pleased with his professional growth over the last year and the way he handles himself
chk out JG's ride pic.twitter.com/9EvjGCqy5h
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/13/jimmy-haslam-expects-josh-gordon-around-for-a-long-time-to-come/ I’ve been very pleased with his professional growth over the last year and the way he handles himself
chk out JG's ride pic.twitter.com/9EvjGCqy5h
Andrew74
Footballguy
Thought it would help him hide from the cops but they just followed the smoke trail
fatness
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
bengalbuck
Footballguy
I just drafted Gordon at 8 this morning, came to read this thread after the pick and thought when I saw this post he had done something stupid again over night.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Weed is always the topic with GordonDitka Butkus said:
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Welp. Forgive me if I remain skeptical of your familiarity with the literature to support the position about frequency (and/or severity) of health problems tied to MJ use versus "most other legal prescription medications." Or, was your argument about "hundreds" (not "most") of other prescription medications? You said both.I might add that most in the medical field treat conditions with scripts they know cause side effects because the risk of not treating the condition poses a greater risk to health. Seems like comparing apples and oranges when comparing recreational MJ use with prescription treatments. Even so, if you care to share data on the hundreds of prescriptions (or most...you choose the number that best fits your argument) that are worse to health than MJ, maybe we can start there.
Last edited by a moderator:
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I'll just stick with Alcohol and fast food. Both legal, both way worse when used with anywhere near the same frequency as marijuana.
Although I should also say painkillers, since Marijuana is an effective analgesic that would be beneficial for many NFL players who would rather go that route than traditional painkillers that are harmful to vital organs over time. These doctors/teams are not giving these painkillers because lack of treatment would be worse, so there goes that argument. Not to mention the "long term effects" of marijuana usagae argument goes out the window because these players can just use it while playing, and many careers are quite short.
WHat might be even better is to alternate between those methods as to not over use any of them.
That dastardly evil pot.
Don't worry. The NFL (along with the rest of the world) will catch on soon enough and realize marijuana will actualy benefit the players and the league rather than be a detriment.
If you are saying the league will continue to ban it forever, I will just say you are dead wrong.
Last edited by a moderator:
massraider
Footballguy
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
cobalt_27
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
It was a good idea all night tonight. Well maybe not. I drank all this beer, gave my liver a heck of a workout, killed a million brain cells, and will likely wake up dehydrated and feeling crappy.
Probably woulda just been better to vaporize some dub, get a good nights sleep, and get up in the morning feeling chipper.
Almost talking myself into starting to smoke some dub instead of drinking. If my work didn't drug test for THC I would. But hey, if they wanna give me health insurance and let me destroy my body with alcohol and foot the bill for all my health problems rather than let me smoke some dub and be healthier, so be it. Who am I to tell em otherwise, right?
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
identikit
Footballguy
DaveGrumbles
Footballguy
Tell me that you work in promotions/marketing in some capacity. Otherwise you've completely missed your calling. You're like the Don King for Josh Gordon threads at this point
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Well, I can't get any more heat than I am already - so I'll just put it like this. I am sticking with 6-8 weeks as MY prediction.
But I have heard that the suspension coming may not fall under the Drug Policy, whatsoever - and instead may be 2-4 games under the Conduct Policy.
But I have heard that the suspension coming may not fall under the Drug Policy, whatsoever - and instead may be 2-4 games under the Conduct Policy.
