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this is what I am also gauging. We have 6 keepers, so by keeping him, I'm basically losing DeSean Jackson, unless I can get him back in the first round of the draft. It's a 16-team league, so, depending on how you want to calculate it, keeping Gordon means I'm giving up something like the 81st pick or later.
Maybe 1-3 weeks is how long it will take Gordon's guys to deliver the pile of money (undetected) into the Arbitrators account to ensure he makes the right decision.
There was an article or discussion ... not sure where - maybe FFToolbox that suggested IF
I'm not sure Harvin is relevant. Gordon is going to come back in week 9 at 100% and just needing to round into game shape. Harvin had so many ???
The 8th round is right about where I'd start thinking hard about adding him. In the 9th is where I'd really start to get tantalized. You already have a QB, a TE, 3 RBs, 3 WRs and you're filling in depth.... tough to pass up in the 9th. Even if you end up having a great WR corps but are weak at RB or TE, what a trade chip Gordon could be. Not a tough sell to a guy strapped at WR the week before his suspension ends - the guy put up numbers last year with little to no running game, no matter who was playing QB. It's hard to find a counter-argument to downplay his value other than character/future possible suspensions. In a redraft, those don't even carry that much weight.
Week 10 you mean - they have a bye in week 4. Even still, I'd get him around the same time as my backup QB, maybe just before.
That's a tough question. I'd really have to see how the rest of my roster looked before deciding when to pull the trigger on him.
LOL. That situation might break the Internet.
Not a bad point.
To me, it wouldn't matter if he got ZERO games, because the other shoe will fall on the DUI and then he gets those games off. Then the guy has so much baggage, how could you possibly burn the pick that it would take to get him (HAS to be top 3 rounds cause you know someone just isn't going to allow somebody to pick a "not suspended for the entire year" Josh Gordon with a 6th or 7th round pick)?
Based on what I've seen -- which isn't enough -- I'd say those arguments have a (combined) 10-20% chance of winning.
It was a metaphor, and probably not the best, but I was in a hurry.
Anywhere in here is acceptable but do understand you have rough waters ahead getting in range of making the playoffs.
Absolutely, as long as the hammies are good then for 8 weeks you got a guy who will see a ton of targets. He has been A-1 in camp, leader in the locker room and has brought a veteran presence they sorely need. If he can stay healthy(so worn out) he should be a terrific find in the double digit rounds to have for bye weeks and unexpected injuries.
I'm just assuming the suspension is 8 games and we all know ahead of time for discussions sake.
If you're sitting at the 3/4 turn and have a chance to draft a Gordon who is only out 8 games then you take that chance. His DUI can be pushed out until after the season.
Figure out what WR you would start every week in place of him... basically your top backup WR your team would end up with. Take 8 weeks of the backup's scoring and add in however many fantasy weeks of Gordon's scoring that Gordon would play for you.
I'm all for swinging for the fences but that may be a bit early IMO. I think I would take the chance on missing him there and get him from the owner 4 weeks in. If its 8 games I believe it's a lock you see him at 5/6
I don't mind waiting those weeks. If you draft well you should be in playoff contention when he comes back and then you have a lot of extra firepower even if you barely slip into the playoffs.
Disagree based on what exactly? Just cause you want to stick to your guns or something? What facts are you looking at (or more importantly ignoring) that allow you to believe this?
I have to make a decision by tomorrow on whether I'm keeping him or not. Brutal decision.
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FACT: Your facts aren't actually facts[icon] said:
So he's not actually currently suspended 16 games? Or he's not shown extremely poor judgement and as a stage 3 candidate who recently tagged on another offense, is a high risk factor for repeat substance violations?
Do you have a link showing the NFL announcing that he was suspended 16 games? Not some unnamed source, but an actually representative from the NFL? Do you have a link confirming that he is even in stage 3? You are simply restating other speculation.
It's been fairly established now that Gordon is facing an indefinite (one year) suspension, and is now appealing that decision. Do you think they are shelling out all this money for his defense because he's facing a four game suspension?
If that means you get to keep him next year too (and forever, possibly) then you should do it.Banger said:
ya, you get to keep guys forever but with small rosters it'll be difficult to work around him if he's out all year. I could protect Gerhart and take a risk and let Gordon go into the draft and then take him with my last pick in the first. I literally change my mind 3 times a day....it seems as if the best case scenario is 8 games at this point.
I struggled with the same issue in a PPR Keep 6 league. We had to declare our keepers by last Sunday night. We can keep players forever. Was going back & fourth between keeping Gordon or Ray Rice as my final keeper. Another owner offered me a good draft pick for Ray Rice so it made my choice allot easier. Keeping Gordon & hoping he plays 1/2 the season & maybe this was the wake up call he needs.
