WR Julio Jones, Retired (3 Viewers)

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Jay Adams @FalconsJAdams

Watching the end of warmups now. Julio Jones is really passing the eye test right now. Looks strong, loose, ready. #ATLvsNO

 

[Meatwad Reloaded]

For better or worse, this is going to be a pretty exciting thread today. I am starting him over VJAX.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

Sold. He's in for me.

 

[ICON211]

I'm playing Latavius Murray over Julio. Calvin supposedly looked good in warmups when he was a decoy earlier this year. If I have a guy with guaranteed touches I'm going the safe route today.

 

[Andrew74]

Bring it home, Julio!!!

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Sounds promising for Julio owners. Harry Douglas owners without Julio are disappointed.

 

[PhantomJB]

Jay Adams @FalconsJAdams

Watching the end of warmups now. Julio Jones is really passing the eye test right now. Looks strong, loose, ready. #ATLvsNO

Drugs will do that.

 

[NYRAGE]

He made a really good catch on that first pass. He was fully extended and didn't look limited on that play.

 

[Faust]

Julio Jones 'stud' in return from injury:

http://espn.go.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/10950/julio-jones-a-stud-in-return-from-injury

 

[ghostguy123]

Oblique??

Am I completely crazy, or was this not reported anywhere prior gameday that it was an OBLIQUE issue?? Wasn't it a HIP issue??

 

[Mighty Mice]

Dude has a torn labrum, the only question has how badly torn. He ain't playing and even if for some reason they did make him active he would be a decoy only. They are just trying to keep the Saints guessing.

This is a serious injury that at some point will require surgery. It is possible to play temporarily through a torn labrum but to do so might jeopardize Jones longterm health and shorten his career. Also, this injury just happened two weeks ago so you can be assured the pain and swelling have not gone away yet.

Jones would have be stupid to play through this injury. Falcons lose this week, he is put on IR for week 17. IF they win they might hold out hope the swelling will come down enough to play in a playoff game but even then he is risking longterm consequences.

:(

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Julio Jones caught 4-of-8 targets for 58 yards in the Falcons' Week 17 loss to the Panthers.

Jones was in and out of the game after reportedly aggravating a preexisting knee injury. That's the story of Jones' season, as he battled multiple lower-body ailments despite missing just one game. He still had the best season of his career, totaling 104 catches for 1,593 yards and six touchdowns. Legitimately dominant on the outside when at or near full health, Jones will be a surefire WR1 and first- or second-round pick in fantasy drafts next season. He has one year left on his contract at 25 years old. Matt Ryan also still has a ton of game left at 30.

Dec 28 - 8:35 PM

 

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Rotoworld:

Julio Jones caught 4-of-8 targets for 58 yards in the Falcons' Week 17 loss to the Panthers.

Jones was in and out of the game after reportedly aggravating a preexisting knee injury. That's the story of Jones' season, as he battled multiple lower-body ailments despite missing just one game. He still had the best season of his career, totaling 104 catches for 1,593 yards and six touchdowns. Legitimately dominant on the outside when at or near full health, Jones will be a surefire WR1 and first- or second-round pick in fantasy drafts next season. He has one year left on his contract at 25 years old. Matt Ryan also still has a ton of game left at 30.

Dec 28 - 8:35 PM

Battled injuries, finished with 100-1500. Total stud.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Rotoworld:

Julio Jones caught 4-of-8 targets for 58 yards in the Falcons' Week 17 loss to the Panthers.

Jones was in and out of the game after reportedly aggravating a preexisting knee injury. That's the story of Jones' season, as he battled multiple lower-body ailments despite missing just one game. He still had the best season of his career, totaling 104 catches for 1,593 yards and six touchdowns. Legitimately dominant on the outside when at or near full health, Jones will be a surefire WR1 and first- or second-round pick in fantasy drafts next season. He has one year left on his contract at 25 years old. Matt Ryan also still has a ton of game left at 30.

Dec 28 - 8:35 PM

Battled injuries, finished with 100-1500. Total stud.

I think it's close enough we can round up to 105/1600, even.

Despite the injuries, he managed to keep his streak alive, too. One of these days either Julio or Antonio is going to be held below 50 yards. In the meantime, this run is pretty crazy. It's not quite Brees and Brady chasing Unitas' consecutive TD streak, but it's still pretty cool.

 

[Faust]

Arthur Blank values Julio Jones, but extension on hold pending new coach

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

New coach Dan Quinn confirmed getting Julio Jones signed to a long-term contract is a priority.

Jones, who just turned 26 years old, is heading into the final year of his rookie deal. The Falcons should explore an extension this offseason if they want to avoid using the franchise tag on him a year from now. As an other-worldly talent set to play the Andre Johnson/Pierre Garcon "X" role for Kyle Shanahan, Julio is poised for an eruption as long as his health cooperates.

Source: ESPN.com
Feb 5 - 9:07 AM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

New OC Kyle Shanahan put Julio Jones in the same category as Andre Johnson.

Shanahan spent four years with Johnson in Houston (2006-09). During that time, Johnson averaged 6.6 catches for 90.2 yards and 0.52 TDs per game, easily top-5 WR numbers. We'd argue that Julio has even more explosive talent than Johnson and is set for a contract-year eruption as Shanny's "X" receiver. Even Pierre Garcon was able to record a 113-1,346-5 line on a league-leading 184 targets in 2013 while playing that "X" spot for Shanahan.

Source: Vaughn McClure on Twitter
Feb 10 - 12:33 PM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

CBS Sports' Joel Corry expects Julio Jones to aim for $50 million-plus guaranteed on a long-term extension.

Both coach Dan Quinn and GM Thomas Dimitroff have stated that signing Jones to an extension is a priority as he enters the final year of his rookie contract. With all four of Jones, Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas, and A.J. Green looking for new contracts, we're just waiting for one of them to set the bar. Jones has past foot issues, but is expected to command around $15 million annually.

Source: ESPN.com
Mar 25 - 9:12 AM

 

[Faust]

Falcons shift focus to Julio Jones' contract extension

 

[Faust]

Source: Julio Jones will be present at OTAs

 

[themitch]

Looking at last years points allowed to WR's, Atlanta's schedule is looking pretty soft. Only Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Giants, Carolina and Washington have schedules that allowed more points to WR's and Julio's foot should be fully healed now. What's everyone's thoughts on this guy? I'm looking to target in round 1 with my 1.08 pick.

 

[Faust]

Falcons WR Julio Jones: 'I'm not going to hold out'

 

[Ted Mullins]

Probably being mentioned a lot elsewhere but I'll say it since I didn't see it on this page, Julio in Kyle Shanahan's system should be very nice. Decent shot at leading the league in targets and should be schemed "open" some, at least as open as a #1 in the NFL can really get. The setup was excellent for Garcon while Kyle was in Washington.

 

[Chaka]

Probably being mentioned a lot elsewhere but I'll say it since I didn't see it on this page, Julio in Kyle Shanahan's system should be very nice. Decent shot at leading the league in targets and should be schemed "open" some, at least as open as a #1 in the NFL can really get. The setup was excellent for Garcon while Kyle was in Washington.

Same thing with Andre Johnson in Houston. The problem with the Shannahan/Kubiak system is that the #1 WR is generally not the top target in the red zone and particularly not near the stripe. That will make it tough to project Jones for more than 9 TDs. He has the talent to easily exceed that but the system is not ideal.

 

[humpback]

Probably being mentioned a lot elsewhere but I'll say it since I didn't see it on this page, Julio in Kyle Shanahan's system should be very nice. Decent shot at leading the league in targets and should be schemed "open" some, at least as open as a #1 in the NFL can really get. The setup was excellent for Garcon while Kyle was in Washington.

Same thing with Andre Johnson in Houston. The problem with the Shannahan/Kubiak system is that the #1 WR is generally not the top target in the red zone and particularly not near the stripe. That will make it tough to project Jones for more than 9 TDs. He has the talent to easily exceed that but the system is not ideal.

I kind of think the opposite. In his 2 years with Shanny as his OC, AJ led the team in red zone TDs (13 out of his 17 receiving TDs came from inside the red zone). He didn't have much to work with in Washington, but pretty much every year his leading receiver also led the team in TDs and red zone TDs. Contrast that with Atlanta, where Roddy had 7 TDs vs. 6 for Julio last year despite 42 fewer targets, and 6 out of those 7 TDs came from inside the 10 yd line. Julio only had 2 red zone TDs last year, and only has 12 red zone TDs out of 26 total for his career.

IMO, the system is about as good as it gets for Julio. He should get a ton of targets, including more than he has been getting in the red zone.

 

[Ted Mullins]

The red zone concerns are a good point, it's so strange that a receiver as big and good as Andre never reached double digit TDs. I'd have to see exact numbers but it seems like the Kubiak/Shanny offenses like to use tight ends in the red zone, along with usually being so proficient at running the ball. For me, the possible yards/targets in that system outweighs any red zone concerns I have right now. I'll also very likely be avoiding Roddy White - I can't think of this offense statistically supporting two receivers very often.

 

[Chaka]

Probably being mentioned a lot elsewhere but I'll say it since I didn't see it on this page, Julio in Kyle Shanahan's system should be very nice. Decent shot at leading the league in targets and should be schemed "open" some, at least as open as a #1 in the NFL can really get. The setup was excellent for Garcon while Kyle was in Washington.

Same thing with Andre Johnson in Houston. The problem with the Shannahan/Kubiak system is that the #1 WR is generally not the top target in the red zone and particularly not near the stripe. That will make it tough to project Jones for more than 9 TDs. He has the talent to easily exceed that but the system is not ideal.

I kind of think the opposite. In his 2 years with Shanny as his OC, AJ led the team in red zone TDs (13 out of his 17 receiving TDs came from inside the red zone). He didn't have much to work with in Washington, but pretty much every year his leading receiver also led the team in TDs and red zone TDs. Contrast that with Atlanta, where Roddy had 7 TDs vs. 6 for Julio last year despite 42 fewer targets, and 6 out of those 7 TDs came from inside the 10 yd line. Julio only had 2 red zone TDs last year, and only has 12 red zone TDs out of 26 total for his career.

IMO, the system is about as good as it gets for Julio. He should get a ton of targets, including more than he has been getting in the red zone.

It is an interesting point but remember that it is also similar to Kubiak's philosophy (same mentor after all) and in the 5 seasons Andre Johnson played in all 16 games for Kubiak (with or without Kyle Shanahan) he never broke double digit TDs.

Rod Smith had 11 TDs in 2001

McCaffrey and Shannon Sharpe both had 10 TDs in 1998

Rod Smith had 12 TDs in 1997

Shannon Sharpe had 10 TDs in 1996

That's it, that's the list of double digit TD reception guys in either a Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak or Kyle Shanahan offense. Five times in a combined 32 years of coaching (no double dipping, I only counted one season for years where Kubs was Shanny SR's OC or for when Shanny JR. was Kubs OC). Only three times by a WR and the last one was in 2001.

I am not saying it cannot or will not happen but a track record like that is worth noting when setting the odds.

 

[humpback]

Probably being mentioned a lot elsewhere but I'll say it since I didn't see it on this page, Julio in Kyle Shanahan's system should be very nice. Decent shot at leading the league in targets and should be schemed "open" some, at least as open as a #1 in the NFL can really get. The setup was excellent for Garcon while Kyle was in Washington.

Same thing with Andre Johnson in Houston. The problem with the Shannahan/Kubiak system is that the #1 WR is generally not the top target in the red zone and particularly not near the stripe. That will make it tough to project Jones for more than 9 TDs. He has the talent to easily exceed that but the system is not ideal.

I kind of think the opposite. In his 2 years with Shanny as his OC, AJ led the team in red zone TDs (13 out of his 17 receiving TDs came from inside the red zone). He didn't have much to work with in Washington, but pretty much every year his leading receiver also led the team in TDs and red zone TDs. Contrast that with Atlanta, where Roddy had 7 TDs vs. 6 for Julio last year despite 42 fewer targets, and 6 out of those 7 TDs came from inside the 10 yd line. Julio only had 2 red zone TDs last year, and only has 12 red zone TDs out of 26 total for his career.

IMO, the system is about as good as it gets for Julio. He should get a ton of targets, including more than he has been getting in the red zone.

It is an interesting point but remember that it is also similar to Kubiak's philosophy (same mentor after all) and in the 5 seasons Andre Johnson played in all 16 games for Kubiak (with or without Kyle Shanahan) he never broke double digit TDs.

Rod Smith had 11 TDs in 2001

McCaffrey and Shannon Sharpe both had 10 TDs in 1998

Rod Smith had 12 TDs in 1997

Shannon Sharpe had 10 TDs in 1996

That's it, that's the list of double digit TD reception guys in either a Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak or Kyle Shanahan offense. Five times in a combined 32 years of coaching (no double dipping, I only counted one season for years where Kubs was Shanny SR's OC or for when Shanny JR. was Kubs OC). Only three times by a WR and the last one was in 2001.

I am not saying it cannot or will not happen but a track record like that is worth noting when setting the odds.

I don't see why we'd factor in Kubiak or Mike Shanahan here. Sure he learned from those guys, but that doesn't mean he's a carbon copy of them- his track record is all that really matters.

AJ's lack of TDs has always been a mystery to me, but I would point out that he had 8 and 9 (career high) in his two seasons under Kyle, while averaging fewer than 5 TDs per year under everyone else.

Julio was great last season despite being neglected in the red zone. Now he has an OC who historically has force fed his #1 WR, including using him more in the red zone. I'd take the "over" on 9 TDs.

 

[TZMarkie]

Julio was great last season despite being neglected in the red zone. Now he has an OC who historically has force fed his #1 WR, including using him more in the red zone. I'd take the "over" on 9 TDs.

Agree.

I was high on Julio last year, and got him in my biggest money league, along with Matt Ryan.

As an owner, I watched as he started off slow and I was patiently waiting.

I knew their schedule got easier late season, and I was getting a bit nervous, and then he started to take off a bit.

Weeks 4-6-7-8 were slow comparatively, but then he started lighting it up thereafter.

(one Monday night, they both saved my bacon, there was a massive game vs Green Bay) If I recall that was week 14, semi finals in that league.

Anyway, the flukey LOW # of TDs stand out to me, and they did towards the end of the season.

My only issue is his foot. I'm hoping he is basically 100%, and I have heard of no issues, so lets hope for the best.

(the guy is even saying all the right things in training camp) "I am not going to hold out, thats selfish and my teammates need me".

Not only is the O-Line supposedly better, (I watched as Matt Ryan seemed to run for his life every game lol) but the coaching now just loves to pepper the #1 WR with targets.

I am seriously debating taking this guy as my #1 WR this year, and I'm DEFINITELY taking him if Antonio Brown is gone first.

He is easily one of my targets this year, and I will be trying to get him in most leagues.

TZM

 

[Chaka]

Probably being mentioned a lot elsewhere but I'll say it since I didn't see it on this page, Julio in Kyle Shanahan's system should be very nice. Decent shot at leading the league in targets and should be schemed "open" some, at least as open as a #1 in the NFL can really get. The setup was excellent for Garcon while Kyle was in Washington.

Same thing with Andre Johnson in Houston. The problem with the Shannahan/Kubiak system is that the #1 WR is generally not the top target in the red zone and particularly not near the stripe. That will make it tough to project Jones for more than 9 TDs. He has the talent to easily exceed that but the system is not ideal.

I kind of think the opposite. In his 2 years with Shanny as his OC, AJ led the team in red zone TDs (13 out of his 17 receiving TDs came from inside the red zone). He didn't have much to work with in Washington, but pretty much every year his leading receiver also led the team in TDs and red zone TDs. Contrast that with Atlanta, where Roddy had 7 TDs vs. 6 for Julio last year despite 42 fewer targets, and 6 out of those 7 TDs came from inside the 10 yd line. Julio only had 2 red zone TDs last year, and only has 12 red zone TDs out of 26 total for his career.

IMO, the system is about as good as it gets for Julio. He should get a ton of targets, including more than he has been getting in the red zone.

It is an interesting point but remember that it is also similar to Kubiak's philosophy (same mentor after all) and in the 5 seasons Andre Johnson played in all 16 games for Kubiak (with or without Kyle Shanahan) he never broke double digit TDs.

Rod Smith had 11 TDs in 2001

McCaffrey and Shannon Sharpe both had 10 TDs in 1998

Rod Smith had 12 TDs in 1997

Shannon Sharpe had 10 TDs in 1996

That's it, that's the list of double digit TD reception guys in either a Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak or Kyle Shanahan offense. Five times in a combined 32 years of coaching (no double dipping, I only counted one season for years where Kubs was Shanny SR's OC or for when Shanny JR. was Kubs OC). Only three times by a WR and the last one was in 2001.

I am not saying it cannot or will not happen but a track record like that is worth noting when setting the odds.

I don't see why we'd factor in Kubiak or Mike Shanahan here. Sure he learned from those guys, but that doesn't mean he's a carbon copy of them- his track record is all that really matters.

AJ's lack of TDs has always been a mystery to me, but I would point out that he had 8 and 9 (career high) in his two seasons under Kyle, while averaging fewer than 5 TDs per year under everyone else.

Julio was great last season despite being neglected in the red zone. Now he has an OC who historically has force fed his #1 WR, including using him more in the red zone. I'd take the "over" on 9 TDs.

Where he cut his teeth is very important when evaluating his mindset and philosophy. His track record is virtually identical to his father and kubs. He has had zero WRs break 10 TDs.

Now I think Julio has the best chance to break that barrier of any Kubiak, Shanny Sr. or Shanny Jr. WR since AJ in 2009 (how Schaub can throw for 4,700 and 29 and NOT get AJ double digit TDs is a huge mystery...kind of). But you have to factor in the TDs during evaluations. Julio is definitely a top 5 guy for me because, I agree with you here, he will have the catches and yards but I have to put a guy like Dez as the #1 fantasy WR on my board because he just seems to score double digit TDs every year by accident. After that I can make arguments for quite a few WRs to sit in that #2 spot (Julio obviously being one of them).

 

[humpback]

Probably being mentioned a lot elsewhere but I'll say it since I didn't see it on this page, Julio in Kyle Shanahan's system should be very nice. Decent shot at leading the league in targets and should be schemed "open" some, at least as open as a #1 in the NFL can really get. The setup was excellent for Garcon while Kyle was in Washington.

Same thing with Andre Johnson in Houston. The problem with the Shannahan/Kubiak system is that the #1 WR is generally not the top target in the red zone and particularly not near the stripe. That will make it tough to project Jones for more than 9 TDs. He has the talent to easily exceed that but the system is not ideal.

I kind of think the opposite. In his 2 years with Shanny as his OC, AJ led the team in red zone TDs (13 out of his 17 receiving TDs came from inside the red zone). He didn't have much to work with in Washington, but pretty much every year his leading receiver also led the team in TDs and red zone TDs. Contrast that with Atlanta, where Roddy had 7 TDs vs. 6 for Julio last year despite 42 fewer targets, and 6 out of those 7 TDs came from inside the 10 yd line. Julio only had 2 red zone TDs last year, and only has 12 red zone TDs out of 26 total for his career.

IMO, the system is about as good as it gets for Julio. He should get a ton of targets, including more than he has been getting in the red zone.

It is an interesting point but remember that it is also similar to Kubiak's philosophy (same mentor after all) and in the 5 seasons Andre Johnson played in all 16 games for Kubiak (with or without Kyle Shanahan) he never broke double digit TDs.

Rod Smith had 11 TDs in 2001

McCaffrey and Shannon Sharpe both had 10 TDs in 1998

Rod Smith had 12 TDs in 1997

Shannon Sharpe had 10 TDs in 1996

That's it, that's the list of double digit TD reception guys in either a Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak or Kyle Shanahan offense. Five times in a combined 32 years of coaching (no double dipping, I only counted one season for years where Kubs was Shanny SR's OC or for when Shanny JR. was Kubs OC). Only three times by a WR and the last one was in 2001.

I am not saying it cannot or will not happen but a track record like that is worth noting when setting the odds.

I don't see why we'd factor in Kubiak or Mike Shanahan here. Sure he learned from those guys, but that doesn't mean he's a carbon copy of them- his track record is all that really matters.

AJ's lack of TDs has always been a mystery to me, but I would point out that he had 8 and 9 (career high) in his two seasons under Kyle, while averaging fewer than 5 TDs per year under everyone else.

Julio was great last season despite being neglected in the red zone. Now he has an OC who historically has force fed his #1 WR, including using him more in the red zone. I'd take the "over" on 9 TDs.

Where he cut his teeth is very important when evaluating his mindset and philosophy. His track record is virtually identical to his father and kubs. He has had zero WRs break 10 TDs.

Now I think Julio has the best chance to break that barrier of any Kubiak, Shanny Sr. or Shanny Jr. WR since AJ in 2009 (how Schaub can throw for 4,700 and 29 and NOT get AJ double digit TDs is a huge mystery...kind of). But you have to factor in the TDs during evaluations. Julio is definitely a top 5 guy for me because, I agree with you here, he will have the catches and yards but I have to put a guy like Dez as the #1 fantasy WR on my board because he just seems to score double digit TDs every year by accident. After that I can make arguments for quite a few WRs to sit in that #2 spot (Julio obviously being one of them).

I disagree that it's all that relevant (especially considering most of those seasons were so long ago), but let's go with it for now. I'd argue that the track record is actually pretty good if you look at it in context:

2001- Those 10 TDs for Rod Smith were good for 3rd in the league. He also led the league in receptions and was 3rd in yards.

1998- 10 TDs for each of McCaffrey and Sharpe tied for 6th in the league. McCaffrey's only relevant fantasy seasons came under Shanny Sr.

1997- 12 TDs for Rod Smith tied for 2nd in the league.

1996- 10 TDs for Sharpe tied for 5th in league (tied for 1st for TEs).

2014- Julio Jones tied for 29th in league in TDs despite being 3rd in receptions.

Back to the more relevant info.- the two seasons AJ had under Kyle were the two best of his career, and Garcon had his best season by over 400 yards with him. I've already shown how Kyle has thrown to his #1 WR in the redzone far more than Atlanta has.

I'm guessing Julio owners would be ecstatic if he simply continues his track record of force-feeding his #1 WR and giving them their best fantasy seasons of their careers.

 

[Faust]

NFC South Q&A: Is Julio Jones the division's pre-eminent playmaker?

 

[Ted Mullins]

https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/5497/why-the-kyle-shanahan-top-wide-receiver-narrative-just-isn-t-true

This counters the Shanahan narrative I mentioned, thought it was interesting...in short, the seasons where Shanahan has given the X receiver a ton of targets coincides with the years he had a really good player at X with little else around him. In the seasons where there was no clear best receiver, targets were spread a lot more evenly. FWIW, it's not saying don't buy Julio, just that Shanahan shouldn't be the reason to do so.

Considering Julio was 3rd in targets last year already with Atlanta 3rd in the league in attempts, I am actually starting to think Julio is likely to get similar or even slightly less targets regardless of whether the Shanahan narrative ends up being true. I would think they place more emphasis on running the ball and I do not expect them to push the pace in terms of number of plays - Shanahan did not seem to do so during his tenure in Washington or last year in Cleveland.

 

[Shutout]

https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/5497/why-the-kyle-shanahan-top-wide-receiver-narrative-just-isn-t-true

This counters the Shanahan narrative I mentioned, thought it was interesting...in short, the seasons where Shanahan has given the X receiver a ton of targets coincides with the years he had a really good player at X with little else around him. In the seasons where there was no clear best receiver, targets were spread a lot more evenly. FWIW, it's not saying don't buy Julio, just that Shanahan shouldn't be the reason to do so.

Considering Julio was 3rd in targets last year already with Atlanta 3rd in the league in attempts, I am actually starting to think Julio is likely to get similar or even slightly less targets regardless of whether the Shanahan narrative ends up being true. I would think they place more emphasis on running the ball and I do not expect them to push the pace in terms of number of plays - Shanahan did not seem to do so during his tenure in Washington or last year in Cleveland.

I honestly DO see your take on it. It does have an appearance that this might be a set up for a disappointment, relatively speaking. However, sometimes you just see things align and you KNOW it's going to be big. Like when Reid got hired in KC, you knew that was going to be a boon for Charles or as players and coaches aligned in Dallas, you knew that running game was ripe for success. IMO, this is one of those things. The combined talent of Jones, the coaching, the lesser talent around Jones as they have lost people and Roddy ages, this just has the look for a very valuable season in ff.

I don't think Jones will be a stat monster in the sense that he ends up ridiculously blowing away everyone else because there are some great WRs in great spots now but I think Julio will be rock steady this year and that will be very valuable. He's going to have one of those years where every single week his stats line is going to look like 17, 24, 22, 19, 31. Its just going to be an anchor for FF teams.

 

[humpback]

https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/5497/why-the-kyle-shanahan-top-wide-receiver-narrative-just-isn-t-true

This counters the Shanahan narrative I mentioned, thought it was interesting...in short, the seasons where Shanahan has given the X receiver a ton of targets coincides with the years he had a really good player at X with little else around him. In the seasons where there was no clear best receiver, targets were spread a lot more evenly. FWIW, it's not saying don't buy Julio, just that Shanahan shouldn't be the reason to do so.

Considering Julio was 3rd in targets last year already with Atlanta 3rd in the league in attempts, I am actually starting to think Julio is likely to get similar or even slightly less targets regardless of whether the Shanahan narrative ends up being true. I would think they place more emphasis on running the ball and I do not expect them to push the pace in terms of number of plays - Shanahan did not seem to do so during his tenure in Washington or last year in Cleveland.

That's a pretty sloppy article IMO, but I don't think anyone is saying to draft Julio because of Shanahan- he's just the cherry on top.

The bottom line is that every situation is different so there is no way to know for sure what he's going to do, but based on his track record and the current team make-up, it seems highly likely that Julio is in for a monster season.

 

[Ted Mullins]

Yeah, I still think of Julio as a top 5 or 6 WR - it's just on his own merits as opposed to a boost from the new system like I was thinking, as after further review I am not sure his targets will go up. Still an awesome talent with a good QB.

 

[Faust]

Julio Jones, Falcons haven't talked extension:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13250630/julio-jones-atlanta-falcons-not-talked-extension

 

[Ilov80s]

Yeah, I still think of Julio as a top 5 or 6 WR - it's just on his own merits as opposed to a boost from the new system like I was thinking, as after further review I am not sure his targets will go up. Still an awesome talent with a good QB.

He's my 1C WR. Looking at what he has done the last two years, it's clear we haven't seen his ceiling yet. Julio, Dez and DT have shown the best combo of consistency and high scoring the last few years with the room for growth. Calvin, AJ, Jordy, Antonio, Cobb aren't too far behind. After that, it gets ugly.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Falcons reporter Vaughn McClure says there's a "general sense around the team" that a Julio Jones extension could be done by the start of training camp.

The two sides had not been talking as of last week. But Wednesday's two mega-deals for Dez Bryant and Demaryius Thomas have set the market, giving the Falcons parameters for a deal. Julio, who is averaging 7.2 catches for 108.6 yards over his last 20 games, will be asking for something very similar to the five-year, $70 million those two got. He is scheduled to make $10.176 million this year, the final season of his contract.

Source: ESPN.com
Jul 16 - 8:41 AM

 

[Sebowski]

Yeah, I still think of Julio as a top 5 or 6 WR - it's just on his own merits as opposed to a boost from the new system like I was thinking, as after further review I am not sure his targets will go up. Still an awesome talent with a good QB.

He's my 1C WR. Looking at what he has done the last two years, it's clear we haven't seen his ceiling yet. Julio, Dez and DT have shown the best combo of consistency and high scoring the last few years with the room for growth. Calvin, AJ, Jordy, Antonio, Cobb aren't too far behind. After that, it gets ugly.

I'd put Alshon in that group. Trust him more than Brown, but I've never been high on Brown.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Yeah, I still think of Julio as a top 5 or 6 WR - it's just on his own merits as opposed to a boost from the new system like I was thinking, as after further review I am not sure his targets will go up. Still an awesome talent with a good QB.

He's my 1C WR. Looking at what he has done the last two years, it's clear we haven't seen his ceiling yet. Julio, Dez and DT have shown the best combo of consistency and high scoring the last few years with the room for growth. Calvin, AJ, Jordy, Antonio, Cobb aren't too far behind. After that, it gets ugly.

I'd put Alshon in that group. Trust him more than Brown, but I've never been high on Brown.

I understand people have a hard time getting over the 5'10" thing, but I'm not sure how someone could trust anyone over Brown, really.I mean, I prefer a couple of the prototypical studs to Brown, sure.

But to say you trust Jeffery more than Brown? Seems crazy.

 

[Faust]

Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson 23m23 minutes ago

Roddy White to me on a Julio Jones deal: “The more they wait, the more it’s going to cost them. It’s important that he feels comfortable."

 

[Chaka]

Yeah, I still think of Julio as a top 5 or 6 WR - it's just on his own merits as opposed to a boost from the new system like I was thinking, as after further review I am not sure his targets will go up. Still an awesome talent with a good QB.

He's my 1C WR. Looking at what he has done the last two years, it's clear we haven't seen his ceiling yet. Julio, Dez and DT have shown the best combo of consistency and high scoring the last few years with the room for growth. Calvin, AJ, Jordy, Antonio, Cobb aren't too far behind. After that, it gets ugly.

I'd put Alshon in that group. Trust him more than Brown, but I've never been high on Brown.

I understand people have a hard time getting over the 5'10" thing, but I'm not sure how someone could trust anyone over Brown, really.I mean, I prefer a couple of the prototypical studs to Brown, sure.

But to say you trust Jeffery more than Brown? Seems crazy.

Big Ben has radar lock on Brown and is just a better QB overall than Cutler.

 

[Ilov80s]

Yeah, I still think of Julio as a top 5 or 6 WR - it's just on his own merits as opposed to a boost from the new system like I was thinking, as after further review I am not sure his targets will go up. Still an awesome talent with a good QB.

He's my 1C WR. Looking at what he has done the last two years, it's clear we haven't seen his ceiling yet. Julio, Dez and DT have shown the best combo of consistency and high scoring the last few years with the room for growth. Calvin, AJ, Jordy, Antonio, Cobb aren't too far behind. After that, it gets ugly.

I'd put Alshon in that group. Trust him more than Brown, but I've never been high on Brown.

We will see how Al looks being the main guy this year.

 

[Deamon]

Is this guy still being underrated? Seems like he's often falling outside of the big 4 (brown/odb/DT/Dez) and seems to be the guy people aren't talking 1st round pick with. Much reason to this or are most people on board with him mixed right in equal with those other guys?

 

[Ilov80s]

Is this guy still being underrated? Seems like he's often falling outside of the big 4 (brown/odb/DT/Dez) and seems to be the guy people aren't talking 1st round pick with. Much reason to this or are most people on board with him mixed right in equal with those other guys?

No, there are just a lot of strong options for the first round if you are looking WR.

 

[Sabertooth]

Would not shock me to see Julio put up 100+ 1500+ and 15+

 

[Uncle Grandpa]

If he stays healthy, he's got as good a chance as any to finish WR1.

 

[jurb26]

Current projections for Julio.

160 targets, 101 receptions, 1515 yds, 12 TDs.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Julio Jones has shed five pounds and believes the weight loss has added "another gear" to his speed.

He's down to 224. Coming out of Alabama in 2011, Jones measured 6-foot-3, 220 at the Scouting Combine and ran an official forty time of 4.42. With Roddy White going on 34, a weak tight end situation, and a committee at running back, the Falcons are going to need Julio to carry their offense most weeks.

Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Aug 3 - 4:27 PM