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WR Julio Jones, Retired (2 Viewers)
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cubbie5150
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Yep. All 3 of my year long leagues are managed on CBS. Julio is getting the TD in only one. Figures, the league in which I own him, he doesn't get the TD. Must need to specify such in scoring rules or something.
Someone should get the damned points. If ESPN isn't going to credit Julio, then the D/ST should get the 6. NFL.com appears to being crediting the TD to the Falcons defense.
TartanLion
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NFL.com is accrediting the points to Julio as far as I can see
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Jed
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Rick James
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Falcons fan. Ryan and Julio were both off. Julio looked tentative early like he wasn't going all out. Definitely noticeable.
Ace zero1
Footballguy
Good read. Julio says he feels great and not worried.
http://espn.go.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/16609/julio-jones-not-praying-and-worrying-at-the-same-time-about-injuries
http://espn.go.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/16609/julio-jones-not-praying-and-worrying-at-the-same-time-about-injuries
His performance, and appearance over the past 2 weeks says different. I'd like to hear a little more about the toe. All I keep hearing is that it's not turf toe. That's great, but Julio has a screw in his right foot. Anyone know which foot is giving him problems?
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Is it? Julio and Roddy White implied that Julio's injury, and Dez's 5th metatarsal injury were virtually the same. Isn't the 5th metatarsal basically the little toe? If it's unrelated to the surgery he has 2 years ago then it would be nice if Julio or someone with the Falcons would say so.
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I thought he had a navicular stress fracture so i may be wrong but this is the location of where i believe he thought he got the screw
Raiderfan32904
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@AdamSchefter: Falcons uncertain whether Julio Jones, who did not practice today, will play Thursday night due to hamstring injury, per league source.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Same boat hoping for the same thing. I think the odds of him sitting are pretty slim however as even if he's at half capacity they'll use him as a decoy. I literally don't think ATL's offense can function without Julio on the field, you cannot even remotely keep a secondary honest with White, Hankerson and Tamme.
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Not entirely sure that's true, but I think the Falcons need to find out. They are putting the future of their season at risk by continuing to ride their injured stud. Sit the franchise so he can get right!
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Julio looked to be running about the same speed as the defensive backs last game... that's not normal.
The Falcons also seem to have found someone to lean on in Freeman as well which could buy Jones some decoy time.
I hope they rest him if he is hurt, better to get him back to 100% sooner. He didn't look that happy about scoring on that fumble recovery, I hope he didn't tweak anything.
The Falcons also seem to have found someone to lean on in Freeman as well which could buy Jones some decoy time.
I hope they rest him if he is hurt, better to get him back to 100% sooner. He didn't look that happy about scoring on that fumble recovery, I hope he didn't tweak anything.
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SameSongNDance
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Here are all his targets from Week 5.
If he's running at significantly less than 100% it's actually quite hard to tell. The first two passes (incomplete, interception) are odd too as I can't tell if it's due to injury or just mental errors. On the second pass that is picked off, it almost looks like Julio ducks the ball.
The problem is, with one leg he still looks better than the majority of WR3s you'd likely be starting in his place. There's just no shot I sit him if he's active.
If he's running at significantly less than 100% it's actually quite hard to tell. The first two passes (incomplete, interception) are odd too as I can't tell if it's due to injury or just mental errors. On the second pass that is picked off, it almost looks like Julio ducks the ball.
The problem is, with one leg he still looks better than the majority of WR3s you'd likely be starting in his place. There's just no shot I sit him if he's active.
Alex P Keaton
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Thanks for posting this. I didn't see an evidence he was running or cutting materially slower than normal. It just looked like Ryan was missing him early on.Edit to add: the defense also seemed to do a good job covering him, boxing him in with multiple guys.Here are all his targets from Week 5.
If he's running at significantly less than 100% it's actually quite hard to tell. The first two passes (incomplete, interception) are odd too as I can't tell if it's due to injury or just mental errors. On the second pass that is picked off, it almost looks like Julio ducks the ball.
The problem is, with one leg he still looks better than the majority of WR3s you'd likely be starting in his place. There's just no shot I sit him if he's active.
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Thanks for the vid. Very helpful. Looks like a combination of injury, off timing with Ryan due to missed practices, and the defense keying on him. You're right, he didn't look like the injuries alone were shutting him down. Many of Ryan's passes didn't look sharp in that vid, was he being rushed a lot?SameSongNDance said:Here are all his targets from Week 5.
If he's running at significantly less than 100% it's actually quite hard to tell. The first two passes (incomplete, interception) are odd too as I can't tell if it's due to injury or just mental errors. On the second pass that is picked off, it almost looks like Julio ducks the ball.
The problem is, with one leg he still looks better than the majority of WR3s you'd likely be starting in his place. There's just no shot I sit him if he's active.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
On those first two passes the pocket is relatively clean and Ryan doesn't look to be under much pressure at all. I think the best assumption is that Julio was slowed by his hammy/toe to the point where it initially threw off the timing between him and Ryan. I think Ryan was able to adjust as the game progressed which makes sense as Julio didn't really get involved until the 2nd half. It still boggles my mind how good he looks even though we all know he's likely far less than 100%.Thanks for the vid. Very helpful. Looks like a combination of injury, off timing with Ryan due to missed practices, and the defense keying on him. You're right, he didn't look like the injuries alone were shutting him down. Many of Ryan's passes didn't look sharp in that vid, was he being rushed a lot?SameSongNDance said:Here are all his targets from Week 5.
If he's running at significantly less than 100% it's actually quite hard to tell. The first two passes (incomplete, interception) are odd too as I can't tell if it's due to injury or just mental errors. On the second pass that is picked off, it almost looks like Julio ducks the ball.
The problem is, with one leg he still looks better than the majority of WR3s you'd likely be starting in his place. There's just no shot I sit him if he's active.
bb7278
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I don't understand why Tremblay has Julio is ranked as the #2 WR this week on TNF no less and Matt Ryan is consistently ranked in the top 6, if Julio is limted/sits Matt is top 15 at best, the Saints are bad but Matt Ryan is pure garbage when Julio is limited/doesnt play. Even if Julio plays I can't see him being more than a decoy if he is highly Q.
Matt Ryan is ranked #14 overall for the year at QB but he is always advertised as a QB1, must be the most overrated QB in fantasy, he's just not that good.
Matt Ryan is ranked #14 overall for the year at QB but he is always advertised as a QB1, must be the most overrated QB in fantasy, he's just not that good.
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saintfool
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because the perception is that Julio is a "gamer"? listen, i say this a Saints fan for close to 30 years: this team is TERRIBLE. like Washington Generals vs. Harlem Globetrotters bad. Julio could break the NFL record for yard, receptions, and TDs in a game against these Saints if he plays a full game. so Julio could play a quarter and still put up good numbers against these Saints, especially if he is "covered" by Breaux or Browner.
that said, Julio has been questionable in every game this year and yet he still plays. Maurile is banking on him playing some or all against a wretched divisional opponent. Ryan could torch the Saints, for sure, but his options are severely limited if Hankerson and Julio are out. Freeman might have a field day.
Falcons anticipate WR Julio Jones playing vs. Saints:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000556200/article/falcons-anticipate-wr-julio-jones-playing-vs-saints
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000556200/article/falcons-anticipate-wr-julio-jones-playing-vs-saints
i found this video of Julio's media session today to be quite informative
http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media-lounge/videos/Julio-Consistency-is-the-Biggest-Thing/3e90f01c-7883-4a8b-97e9-6d2103536f15
the first couple of minutes he basically admits he isnt 100% but he's good enough to play.... and good enough to draw double coverage to free up his teammates. then around the 3 minute mark he talks about how the defenses have been changing their coverage on him to essentially play 2 man (cb near line safety help over top) which has limited his short passing game.
http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media-lounge/videos/Julio-Consistency-is-the-Biggest-Thing/3e90f01c-7883-4a8b-97e9-6d2103536f15
the first couple of minutes he basically admits he isnt 100% but he's good enough to play.... and good enough to draw double coverage to free up his teammates. then around the 3 minute mark he talks about how the defenses have been changing their coverage on him to essentially play 2 man (cb near line safety help over top) which has limited his short passing game.
As a Julio owner I took no solace from that interview. He seemed very unsure if he would play, and seemed to indicate that even if he does play his main job will be to draw coverage. Sounds like he's down with playing decoy.
AAABatteries
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While he's not 100%, he doesn't seem to be in really bad shape. A few thoughts on why they would play him:
1. The two Saints games are basically the two biggest games on the schedule most seasons and while the Saints have struggled the Falcons don't want to let them back in the division race
2. As others have mentioned, just having him out there helps the offense and if they get up in the game they can limit his reps
3. Thursday game means 9 days of rest before the next game.
I think he plays, puts up some decent numbers and then it all depends on the game situation. He could have a huge game so unless we hear he's out I think he's a must start.
1. The two Saints games are basically the two biggest games on the schedule most seasons and while the Saints have struggled the Falcons don't want to let them back in the division race
2. As others have mentioned, just having him out there helps the offense and if they get up in the game they can limit his reps
3. Thursday game means 9 days of rest before the next game.
I think he plays, puts up some decent numbers and then it all depends on the game situation. He could have a huge game so unless we hear he's out I think he's a must start.
Run It Up
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That's a quote from the post game interview post by iamkoaza earlier in this thread. When heard in the context of the entire interview I didn't find it encouraging at all.
The only people concerned about Julio are the knuckles posting in this thread and turning a non-issue into a drama.
Nobody in the media or on the team is concerned including Julio himself. This has been going on since week 2 and you guys don't seem to get it.
He's a little banged up along with every other player in the NFL and he's seeing double and triple teams which is why Atlanta is running for 200 yds and 3 tds a week.
Things will even out and Julio will get his so relax.
In the meantime that fumble recovery was a nice bonus !
Nobody in the media or on the team is concerned including Julio himself. This has been going on since week 2 and you guys don't seem to get it.
He's a little banged up along with every other player in the NFL and he's seeing double and triple teams which is why Atlanta is running for 200 yds and 3 tds a week.
Things will even out and Julio will get his so relax.
In the meantime that fumble recovery was a nice bonus !
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
It wasn't. Regarding this specific short week it's hard to say that interview was anything but a net negative from a fantasy perspective. He seems completely content (rightfully so) to run out their as a decoy.
Yeah only us plus the ATL organization, various local media sources and Julio himself. Other than that though, you're right, no one is concerned about this oft injured WR's injuries.
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Judge Smails
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I guess the only question is risk of further injury, correct? He's going to have 10 days between games after this.
I agree that every player in one way or another is banged up. Yet by the view of Julio's body language I would say it looks more than a "little banged up." Did you see how he moved after that fumble recovery? I am a huge Julio fan and not trying to be a knuckle-head but I call it like I see it. I hope that Julio can continue to rise above whatever is visually hampering him.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Well - based on what I saw I don't know what all the fuss is about, unless he was absolutely gimpy after every play going back to the huddle. He played almost every snap. Ryan looked terrible (if anything, guilty of forcing to Julio when other receivers were wide open). Redskins were surrounding him with 3 or 4 in coverage every time. Only chance was the crossing stuff. We'll see.Thanks for the vid. Very helpful. Looks like a combination of injury, off timing with Ryan due to missed practices, and the defense keying on him. You're right, he didn't look like the injuries alone were shutting him down. Many of Ryan's passes didn't look sharp in that vid, was he being rushed a lot?Here are all his targets from Week 5.
If he's running at significantly less than 100% it's actually quite hard to tell. The first two passes (incomplete, interception) are odd too as I can't tell if it's due to injury or just mental errors. On the second pass that is picked off, it almost looks like Julio ducks the ball.
The problem is, with one leg he still looks better than the majority of WR3s you'd likely be starting in his place. There's just no shot I sit him if he's active.
shader
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Julio has been getting up gingerly after receptions since his freshman year in college. He just plays so hard and with zero concern for his body. At times, that will get him injured.
This past game he really didn't seem himself. Heck, this is a guy who caught a bomb two years ago on a broken foot that would eventually sideline him for the entire season.
But hamstrings will slow down even the toughest of wide receivers.
If it's really his hammie, I really think they should let him rest for two weeks. Especially if he's going to be at 50% like he so clearly was this past Sunday.
