WR Keenan Allen, Free Agent (3 Viewers)

[DeaLerZ]

I had an owner offer me Julio and MJD for Keenan and Trent. I am going to pass, but to be honest, right now I don't know that I'd do it straight up.

Julio had one huge game where he went 11 for 182 and a score against the beleaguered Rams. Outside of that one game, he has scored

In the past three games, Keenan has about 22 fantasy points per game which is higher than Julio if you throw out that one game of Julios' and Keenan's first few games before he broke into the lineup. I'm not a big fan of throwing out this or that game but the truth is, Keenan was three inches from a 10 catch, 130 yard, two TD game last night. That would have been nearly identical to Julio's top game in terms of fantasy points.

No, I'll just keep Allen thanks. I would not accept an offer of Julio for him at this point.

That's probably a good idea considering Julio was placed on season-ending IR last week. I wouldn't trade Blair Walsh for Julio at this point.

Dynasty dude.

Going a little overboard on the last two weeks. With some very shoddy logic.

Not shoddy logic, just not group think either. Julio does me zero good this season. Except maybe as trade bait.

You're saying to take out Julio's best game, only focus on Allen's best two games (ignoring his first game when he posted 5/60), say that Allen's line would have been higher if he caught a 2nd TD (like Julio has never had Ryan under/overthrow him), then they're scoring the same. You can manage your team how you want, but if you pass up a straight trade, you will regret it in the offseason.

5/80 first game that he actually was given a starter's snaps

Sorry, was going off the top of my head. Doesn't change my point that Julio still has a lot more value than Keenan.

would agree with you as he is a proven Stud... but I think going forward Keenan Allen definitely is making his way up the charts pretty fast if he keeps it up

 

[Sir Psycho]

Is giving up Gore for Allen too much ?

 

[Otis]

:spinmove:

That was pretty sick.

Yesterday was the first time I watched him play. I was stunned. Primarily because, at 6'2", 210, I was expecting one of those prototypical tall, muscular, long stride, somewhat lumbering NFL receivers. I honestly couldn't figure out if I was watching the right guy. Whomever made the Desean Jackson call above hit it on the head for me. He moves and has the quickness of a much, much smaller receiver. The fact that he has good size to pair with that is scary. He'll be the best WR in his draft class, hands down.

 

[Keith Lewis]

FBG really whiffed on Allen.

 

[dickey moe]

FBG really whiffed on Allen.

I don't know about that -- they had him ranked at 1.09 in rookie drafts (and I think the 4th highest WR behind Austin, Hopkins, and Patterson), which seemed about right compared to his peers and taking his injury history into consideration. His current FBGs dynasty ranking is way too low, however.

 

[drbrainfreeze]

I was just offered Allen and Pierre Thomas for Le'Veon Bell. decisions, decisions.

 

[ryno1980]

I was just offered Allen and Pierre Thomas for Le'Veon Bell. decisions, decisions.

IF it's PPR that's an easy decision

 

[drbrainfreeze]

it's standard.

 

[flapgreen]

I was just offered Allen and Pierre Thomas for Le'Veon Bell. decisions, decisions.

IF it's PPR that's an easy decision

Wow. Yeah. Not many guys out there like Allen at the current time, definitely not any that could be had with Bell

 

[ryno1980]

it's standard.

Depends on your other RBs and how bad you need a WR.

 

[drbrainfreeze]

it's standard.

Depends on your other RBs and how bad you need a WR.

Well..i'm on the train now. I am thin at rb, but have lynch and rice. I am in trouble with with my wrs (White, Torrey Smith, Edelman and R. Randle) We start 3, so I have been starting basically Torrey and a rag tag bunch of wr 4ers.

Hopefully I am catching Allen on the upswing toward solid WR2 production for the rest of the season. I would feel ok with a healthy Roddy White, Torrey Smith and Keenan Allen.

 

[BigTex]

I was offered Lamar Miller for Allen this morning. I think I'll pass.

You "think"??????

 

[Beerguzzler]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr

Look at who's topping the DVOA ranking.

 

[cvnpoka]

was offered kenbrell thompkins and ryan mathews for allen and reuben randle. standard redraft. lol gtfo.

 

[Bayhawks]

it's standard.

Depends on your other RBs and how bad you need a WR.

Well..i'm on the train now. I am thin at rb, but have lynch and rice. I am in trouble with with my wrs (White, Torrey Smith, Edelman and R. Randle) We start 3, so I have been starting basically Torrey and a rag tag bunch of wr 4ers.

Hopefully I am catching Allen on the upswing toward solid WR2 production for the rest of the season. I would feel ok with a healthy Roddy White, Torrey Smith and Keenan Allen.

I just traded away Fitzgerald and some RB depth for Calvin. Rolling with Calvin, Allen, and White (when he gets back). Hope Allen can be that WR2 from here on out.

 

[Sir Psycho]

I was just offered Allen for R Bush.

I've got Gore, Ridley, Bernard...but to give Bush away, i'm not too sure.

My WR are: Cruz, Gordon, Randle.

 

[weebs]

Was offered spiller from julio owner redraft. Idk

 

[Sabertooth]

Was offered spiller from julio owner redraft. Idk

No way.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Was offered Amendola. I laughed.

 

[steveski]

I was just offered Allen for R Bush.

I've got Gore, Ridley, Bernard...but to give Bush away, i'm not too sure.

My WR are: Cruz, Gordon, Randle.

Wow, I was thinking about offering Chris Johnson and Allen for R Bush and expecting to be turned down. Offer one of your other RB's.

For those of you selling, what kind of guys are you getting in return? Like a lot of other people, he'd be my flex guy and I'd have to sit someone like Sproles, Gio, CJ0K to keep him in. I wouldn't mind dishing him out to upgrade my roster.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I was just offered Allen for R Bush.

I've got Gore, Ridley, Bernard...but to give Bush away, i'm not too sure.

My WR are: Cruz, Gordon, Randle.

Wow, I was thinking about offering Chris Johnson and Allen for R Bush and expecting to be turned down. Offer one of your other RB's.

Hang on to Chris Johnson. He's unusable till after his bye week, but in a couple more weeks, he's about to go on a tear. Look at his schedule. I wouldn't swap for R Bush straight up, unless I was RB needy. Allen as a throw in? Blasphemy!

 

[Khy]

Was offered Amendola. I laughed.

I'll trade you my Ferrari for your BMW...

Disclaimer: The Ferrari is missing it's doors, engine and most of the paint is chipped off. But it's really nice. Oh and it has two flat tires and the axle's all rusty.

 

[steveski]

I was just offered Allen for R Bush.

I've got Gore, Ridley, Bernard...but to give Bush away, i'm not too sure.

My WR are: Cruz, Gordon, Randle.

Wow, I was thinking about offering Chris Johnson and Allen for R Bush and expecting to be turned down. Offer one of your other RB's.

Hang on to Chris Johnson. He's unusable till after his bye week, but in a couple more weeks, he's about to go on a tear. Look at his schedule. I wouldn't swap for R Bush straight up, unless I was RB needy. Allen as a throw in? Blasphemy!

You wouldn't swap CJ for Bush straight up? Bush is a top 5 RB when healthy. When he's not, I have Bell to back him up. Even when CJ's schedule gets much better, you're crazy if you think he will be matching Bush's numbers (PPR).

 

[Banger]

I was just offered Allen for R Bush.

I've got Gore, Ridley, Bernard...but to give Bush away, i'm not too sure.

My WR are: Cruz, Gordon, Randle.

nope...wouldn't do that.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I was just offered Allen for R Bush.

I've got Gore, Ridley, Bernard...but to give Bush away, i'm not too sure.

My WR are: Cruz, Gordon, Randle.

Wow, I was thinking about offering Chris Johnson and Allen for R Bush and expecting to be turned down. Offer one of your other RB's.

Hang on to Chris Johnson. He's unusable till after his bye week, but in a couple more weeks, he's about to go on a tear. Look at his schedule. I wouldn't swap for R Bush straight up, unless I was RB needy. Allen as a throw in? Blasphemy!

You wouldn't swap CJ for Bush straight up? Bush is a top 5 RB when healthy. When he's not, I have Bell to back him up. Even when CJ's schedule gets much better, you're crazy if you think he will be matching Bush's numbers (PPR).

"When healthy" is the operative disclaimer. Short term, I like Reggie. He's not hurt, and not playing the Seattles or SF defenses. I'm betting that Reggie can't stay upright for very long. It's good that you have Bell to back him up, and may want to acquire Leshoure just to be safe. ROS, CJ >>> R Bush by a wide margin. Just throwing that out there as my opinion, based on Bush's injury history.

 

[rjv]

I was just offered Allen for R Bush.

I've got Gore, Ridley, Bernard...but to give Bush away, i'm not too sure.

My WR are: Cruz, Gordon, Randle.

Wow, I was thinking about offering Chris Johnson and Allen for R Bush and expecting to be turned down. Offer one of your other RB's.

Hang on to Chris Johnson. He's unusable till after his bye week, but in a couple more weeks, he's about to go on a tear. Look at his schedule. I wouldn't swap for R Bush straight up, unless I was RB needy. Allen as a throw in? Blasphemy!

You wouldn't swap CJ for Bush straight up? Bush is a top 5 RB when healthy. When he's not, I have Bell to back him up. Even when CJ's schedule gets much better, you're crazy if you think he will be matching Bush's numbers (PPR).

"When healthy" is the operative disclaimer. Short term, I like Reggie. He's not hurt, and not playing the Seattles or SF defenses. I'm betting that Reggie can't stay upright for very long. It's good that you have Bell to back him up, and may want to acquire Leshoure just to be safe. ROS, CJ >>> R Bush by a wide margin. Just throwing that out there as my opinion, based on Bush's injury history.

Agree to a extent being a Bush owner. CJ has lost his speed it's obvious and possibly lost his will to actually give a #### after getting paid. In no way is CJ better than Bush in ppr and in this lions offense Bush is a top 3 RB in my league.I like to add what I observed this Sunday. Bush is staying fresh by being switched out more often than before, maybe the injury on the ARI game spooked them or woke them up.

 

[zoonation]

I was just offered Allen for R Bush.

I've got Gore, Ridley, Bernard...but to give Bush away, i'm not too sure.

My WR are: Cruz, Gordon, Randle.

Wow, I was thinking about offering Chris Johnson and Allen for R Bush and expecting to be turned down. Offer one of your other RB's.

Hang on to Chris Johnson. He's unusable till after his bye week, but in a couple more weeks, he's about to go on a tear. Look at his schedule. I wouldn't swap for R Bush straight up, unless I was RB needy. Allen as a throw in? Blasphemy!

You wouldn't swap CJ for Bush straight up? Bush is a top 5 RB when healthy. When he's not, I have Bell to back him up. Even when CJ's schedule gets much better, you're crazy if you think he will be matching Bush's numbers (PPR).

"When healthy" is the operative disclaimer. Short term, I like Reggie. He's not hurt, and not playing the Seattles or SF defenses. I'm betting that Reggie can't stay upright for very long. It's good that you have Bell to back him up, and may want to acquire Leshoure just to be safe. ROS, CJ >>> R Bush by a wide margin. Just throwing that out there as my opinion, based on Bush's injury history.

LOL.

Put the pipe down.

 

[SameSongNDance]

So, this thread devolved into "I was offered X for Allen" pretty quickly, no? It's cool to gauge his perceived value but some of this is too much.

So SD plays JAC this week which on paper looks to be a pretty decent match-up (JAC is allowing the 13th most points to WRs). Sketchily however, JAC currently holds either the 2nd or 3rd longest streak (have to check it again) of holding opposing QBs to under 300 yards. I believe that streak to be close to 10 or so games now. I thought Peyton would undoubtedly snap that streak last week but he threw for 295 yards. Fact is, JAC is technically so bad that you never really have to throw versus them (the only WR to surpass 100 yards versus them is Reggie Wayne). When it comes to receptions/yards, JAC is in fact a bad match-up for opposing WRs. The only reason they're given up the 13th most points to WRs is because they've given up the third most TDs (9).

Based on the stats and what we've seen thus far I expect to see another heavy dose of Mathews vs. JAC this week. I do think a TD for Allen is very possible, even probable, but I'd slightly temper expectations on the reception and yardage totals.

 

[MDPapi]

So, this thread devolved into "I was offered X for Allen" pretty quickly, no? It's cool to gauge his perceived value but some of this is too much.

So SD plays JAC this week which on paper looks to be a pretty decent match-up (JAC is allowing the 13th most points to WRs). Sketchily however, JAC currently holds either the 2nd or 3rd longest streak (have to check it again) of holding opposing QBs to under 300 yards. I believe that streak to be close to 10 or so games now. I thought Peyton would undoubtedly snap that streak last week but he threw for 295 yards. Fact is, JAC is technically so bad that you never really have to throw versus them (the only WR to surpass 100 yards versus them is Reggie Wayne). When it comes to receptions/yards, JAC is in fact a bad match-up for opposing WRs. The only reason they're given up the 13th most points to WRs is because they've given up the third most TDs (9).

Based on the stats and what we've seen thus far I expect to see another heavy dose of Mathews vs. JAC this week. I do think a TD for Allen is very possible, even probable, but I'd slightly temper expectations on the reception and yardage totals.

Good point about the "I was offered X for Allen" stuff. I too was wondering about the JAX matchup, but I've decided not to overthink it. Allen is getting targets in the Red Zone and this game is in Jacksonville. Thoe two factors, plus the fact that he looks ridiculously good, should be enough to keep Allen in the lineup.

 

[Braktastic]

I'm excited to be lucky enough to have Keenan Allen as a WR4. Unfortunately, I can only play 3 WR, and I think choosing between Demaryious Thomas, Antonio Brown, Justin Blackmon, and Keenan Allen is going to be a major PITA going forward. Oh, woe is me!

 

[SameSongNDance]

So, this thread devolved into "I was offered X for Allen" pretty quickly, no? It's cool to gauge his perceived value but some of this is too much.

So SD plays JAC this week which on paper looks to be a pretty decent match-up (JAC is allowing the 13th most points to WRs). Sketchily however, JAC currently holds either the 2nd or 3rd longest streak (have to check it again) of holding opposing QBs to under 300 yards. I believe that streak to be close to 10 or so games now. I thought Peyton would undoubtedly snap that streak last week but he threw for 295 yards. Fact is, JAC is technically so bad that you never really have to throw versus them (the only WR to surpass 100 yards versus them is Reggie Wayne). When it comes to receptions/yards, JAC is in fact a bad match-up for opposing WRs. The only reason they're given up the 13th most points to WRs is because they've given up the third most TDs (9).

Based on the stats and what we've seen thus far I expect to see another heavy dose of Mathews vs. JAC this week. I do think a TD for Allen is very possible, even probable, but I'd slightly temper expectations on the reception and yardage totals.

Good point about the "I was offered X for Allen" stuff. I too was wondering about the JAX matchup, but I've decided not to overthink it. Allen is getting targets in the Red Zone and this game is in Jacksonville. Thoe two factors, plus the fact that he looks ridiculously good, should be enough to keep Allen in the lineup.

I'm definitely going to be rolling him out for the third straight week but I think a lot of people auto assume JAC to be an extremely juicy match-up when it isn't.

Still, Rivers only threw for 237/1/0 last week and Allen was still extremely productive. I still like his prospects this week.

 

[Khy]

So, this thread devolved into "I was offered X for Allen" pretty quickly, no? It's cool to gauge his perceived value but some of this is too much.

So SD plays JAC this week which on paper looks to be a pretty decent match-up (JAC is allowing the 13th most points to WRs). Sketchily however, JAC currently holds either the 2nd or 3rd longest streak (have to check it again) of holding opposing QBs to under 300 yards. I believe that streak to be close to 10 or so games now. I thought Peyton would undoubtedly snap that streak last week but he threw for 295 yards. Fact is, JAC is technically so bad that you never really have to throw versus them (the only WR to surpass 100 yards versus them is Reggie Wayne). When it comes to receptions/yards, JAC is in fact a bad match-up for opposing WRs. The only reason they're given up the 13th most points to WRs is because they've given up the third most TDs (9).

Based on the stats and what we've seen thus far I expect to see another heavy dose of Mathews vs. JAC this week. I do think a TD for Allen is very possible, even probable, but I'd slightly temper expectations on the reception and yardage totals.

There is of course the flip side to this... which is they've also only allowed 1 100 yard rusher this season which was McFadden. Otherwise, Jamaal Charles (77 yards), Marshawn Lynch (69 yards), Trent Richardson (60 yards), Zac Stacy (78 yards) and Knowshon Moreno (42 yards) have been pretty lackluster. Sure Moreno got 3 TDs but those could have just as easily been Peyton TDs. On the day he didn't ACTUALLY have that good of a rushing performance. The biggest issue with the JAX matchup is how many turnovers this offense is giving up that are leading to easy points for the opposing team. Which results in starters being sat.

Week 1: Kansas City: 2 Turnovers, one for a TD. The other returned to the 18 yard line. Points off Turnovers: 14

Week 2: Oakland: 0 Turnovers.

Week 3: Seattle: 3 Turnovers. One led to a good touchdown drive. One was a fumble on the JAX 33 yard line that led to a touchdown. The other irrelevant.

Week 4: Indianapolis: 3 Turnovers. One INT for a TD. One irrelevant as Luck threw it right back. Points off Turnovers: 10

Week 5: St. Louis: 3 Turnovers. One INT for a TD. One INT that led to a punt. One fumble on the JAX 29. Points off Turnovers: 14

Week 6: Denver: 2 Turnovers. One INT returned to the JAX 41, led in a TD. One at the end of the game, irrelevant. Points off turnovers: 7

So in 6 weeks, they've allowed 45 points off of turnovers from their total of 198 Points allowed on the season. In other words, almost 25% of their points allowed were the results of turnovers. Whether that continues this week or not is kind of irrelevant. Also, they've given up 14 passing TDs so far on the season. Which is tied for 1st with the Cowboys and Giants. So yes, while they're not having massive games let up through the air in terms of yardage. They are allowing WRs to pile up fantasy points irregardless. I wouldn't be shocked if Keenan Allen had a line something like 6 for 80 and 2 TDs this week.

 

[SameSongNDance]

So, this thread devolved into "I was offered X for Allen" pretty quickly, no? It's cool to gauge his perceived value but some of this is too much.

So SD plays JAC this week which on paper looks to be a pretty decent match-up (JAC is allowing the 13th most points to WRs). Sketchily however, JAC currently holds either the 2nd or 3rd longest streak (have to check it again) of holding opposing QBs to under 300 yards. I believe that streak to be close to 10 or so games now. I thought Peyton would undoubtedly snap that streak last week but he threw for 295 yards. Fact is, JAC is technically so bad that you never really have to throw versus them (the only WR to surpass 100 yards versus them is Reggie Wayne). When it comes to receptions/yards, JAC is in fact a bad match-up for opposing WRs. The only reason they're given up the 13th most points to WRs is because they've given up the third most TDs (9).

Based on the stats and what we've seen thus far I expect to see another heavy dose of Mathews vs. JAC this week. I do think a TD for Allen is very possible, even probable, but I'd slightly temper expectations on the reception and yardage totals.

There is of course the flip side to this... which is they've also only allowed 1 100 yard rusher this season which was McFadden. Otherwise, Jamaal Charles (77 yards), Marshawn Lynch (69 yards), Trent Richardson (60 yards), Zac Stacy (78 yards) and Knowshon Moreno (42 yards) have been pretty lackluster. Sure Moreno got 3 TDs but those could have just as easily been Peyton TDs. On the day he didn't ACTUALLY have that good of a rushing performance. The biggest issue with the JAX matchup is how many turnovers this offense is giving up that are leading to easy points for the opposing team. Which results in starters being sat.

Week 1: Kansas City: 2 Turnovers, one for a TD. The other returned to the 18 yard line. Points off Turnovers: 14

Week 2: Oakland: 0 Turnovers.

Week 3: Seattle: 3 Turnovers. One led to a good touchdown drive. One was a fumble on the JAX 33 yard line that led to a touchdown. The other irrelevant.

Week 4: Indianapolis: 3 Turnovers. One INT for a TD. One irrelevant as Luck threw it right back. Points off Turnovers: 10

Week 5: St. Louis: 3 Turnovers. One INT for a TD. One INT that led to a punt. One fumble on the JAX 29. Points off Turnovers: 14

Week 6: Denver: 2 Turnovers. One INT returned to the JAX 41, led in a TD. One at the end of the game, irrelevant. Points off turnovers: 7

So in 6 weeks, they've allowed 45 points off of turnovers from their total of 198 Points allowed on the season. In other words, almost 25% of their points allowed were the results of turnovers. Whether that continues this week or not is kind of irrelevant. Also, they've given up 14 passing TDs so far on the season. Which is tied for 1st with the Cowboys and Giants. So yes, while they're not having massive games let up through the air in terms of yardage. They are allowing WRs to pile up fantasy points irregardless. I wouldn't be shocked if Keenan Allen had a line something like 6 for 80 and 2 TDs this week.

Awesome, thanks for expanding on the match-up. Still, I think your reception/yardage prediction would be considered slightly lofty if only you were basing it off of what we've seen thus far. Only Welker has managed 6 receptions (the most) versus JAC and 80 yards would be the third highest mark versus them (Wayne 100, G.Tate 88). I just like keeping my expectations tempered.

I think a 5/60/1 stat line is what I'll be hoping for.

 

[JustinHawkins]

Would anyone who owns Allen Ina PPR dynasty league trade him for Tavon Austin? I was offered that and think it makes little to no sense to move a WR who keeps getting better each week, producing at a high level for a WR who played 4 snaps last week. Am I the only one who feels this way?

 

[Sabertooth]

Would anyone who owns Allen Ina PPR dynasty league trade him for Tavon Austin? I was offered that and think it makes little to no sense to move a WR who keeps getting better each week, producing at a high level for a WR who played 4 snaps last week. Am I the only one who feels this way?

No way.

 

[Khy]

So, this thread devolved into "I was offered X for Allen" pretty quickly, no? It's cool to gauge his perceived value but some of this is too much.

So SD plays JAC this week which on paper looks to be a pretty decent match-up (JAC is allowing the 13th most points to WRs). Sketchily however, JAC currently holds either the 2nd or 3rd longest streak (have to check it again) of holding opposing QBs to under 300 yards. I believe that streak to be close to 10 or so games now. I thought Peyton would undoubtedly snap that streak last week but he threw for 295 yards. Fact is, JAC is technically so bad that you never really have to throw versus them (the only WR to surpass 100 yards versus them is Reggie Wayne). When it comes to receptions/yards, JAC is in fact a bad match-up for opposing WRs. The only reason they're given up the 13th most points to WRs is because they've given up the third most TDs (9).

Based on the stats and what we've seen thus far I expect to see another heavy dose of Mathews vs. JAC this week. I do think a TD for Allen is very possible, even probable, but I'd slightly temper expectations on the reception and yardage totals.

There is of course the flip side to this... which is they've also only allowed 1 100 yard rusher this season which was McFadden. Otherwise, Jamaal Charles (77 yards), Marshawn Lynch (69 yards), Trent Richardson (60 yards), Zac Stacy (78 yards) and Knowshon Moreno (42 yards) have been pretty lackluster. Sure Moreno got 3 TDs but those could have just as easily been Peyton TDs. On the day he didn't ACTUALLY have that good of a rushing performance. The biggest issue with the JAX matchup is how many turnovers this offense is giving up that are leading to easy points for the opposing team. Which results in starters being sat.

Week 1: Kansas City: 2 Turnovers, one for a TD. The other returned to the 18 yard line. Points off Turnovers: 14

Week 2: Oakland: 0 Turnovers.

Week 3: Seattle: 3 Turnovers. One led to a good touchdown drive. One was a fumble on the JAX 33 yard line that led to a touchdown. The other irrelevant.

Week 4: Indianapolis: 3 Turnovers. One INT for a TD. One irrelevant as Luck threw it right back. Points off Turnovers: 10

Week 5: St. Louis: 3 Turnovers. One INT for a TD. One INT that led to a punt. One fumble on the JAX 29. Points off Turnovers: 14

Week 6: Denver: 2 Turnovers. One INT returned to the JAX 41, led in a TD. One at the end of the game, irrelevant. Points off turnovers: 7

So in 6 weeks, they've allowed 45 points off of turnovers from their total of 198 Points allowed on the season. In other words, almost 25% of their points allowed were the results of turnovers. Whether that continues this week or not is kind of irrelevant. Also, they've given up 14 passing TDs so far on the season. Which is tied for 1st with the Cowboys and Giants. So yes, while they're not having massive games let up through the air in terms of yardage. They are allowing WRs to pile up fantasy points irregardless. I wouldn't be shocked if Keenan Allen had a line something like 6 for 80 and 2 TDs this week.

Awesome, thanks for expanding on the match-up. Still, I think your reception/yardage prediction would be considered slightly lofty if only you were basing it off of what we've seen thus far. Only Welker has managed 6 receptions (the most) versus JAC and 80 yards would be the third highest mark versus them (Wayne 100, G.Tate 88). I just like keeping my expectations tempered.

I think a 5/60/1 stat line is what I'll be hoping for.

Well yeah, the 6/80/2 wasn't so much a prediction. More so something I can see happening in the scheme of this game. You do also have to realize that outside of Denver they really haven't faced any passing juggernaut type teams. Most of these teams are more running offenses. The RBs tend to score the majority of the points in these offenses.

Kansas City: Jamaal Charles has scored 7 of the 12 offensive TDs for the Chiefs this season.

Oakland: McFadden and Reece have scored 4 of the 10 offensive TDs for the Raiders this season.

Seattle: Lynch has scored 6 of the 15 offensive TDs for the Seahawks this season.

Indy: Bradshaw, Brown and Richardson combine for 5 of the 14 offensive TDs for the Colts this season. Bear in mind 2 of the other 14 were rushes by Luck.

St Louis: Doesn't have a single RB TD. 13/13 TDs were passes. Therefore, it makes sense that Sam Bradford threw for 3 TDs against them. Austin Pettis posted 4, 49, 2 TDs.

Denver: Knowshon and Hillman combine for 8 of 31 offensive TDs. This was a awkward game, in that 3 TDs went to Knowshon which is a huge outlier. In most any other game this season, 2 or maybe even all 3 of those would have been Peyton to a receiver. Knowshon has 7 TDs, 3 in that game and only 5 of the 7 have been from within the 10 yard line. 3 of those 5 came in this game. Don't expect this to be the norm for the Jags defense or Denver offense.

Week 7: San Diego has 1 rushing TD. 14 Passing TDs. 10 of their 15 TDs went to WRs. They are setup a lot more like the Rams or Denver than the other teams.

 

[Don Quixote]

Would anyone who owns Allen Ina PPR dynasty league trade him for Tavon Austin? I was offered that and think it makes little to no sense to move a WR who keeps getting better each week, producing at a high level for a WR who played 4 snaps last week. Am I the only one who feels this way?

As an Austin dynasty owner, if I was offered Allen for him, I'd reject. Allen was always viewed as more NFL-ready, and I still like Austin more long-term. I think St. Louis needs an OC change more than anything.

Maybe I'm just falling for the sunk cost mentality though.

 

[JustinHawkins]

I think, and I hope I am wrong, that Austin owners are going to be like Ingram owners...waiting, hoping, praying he comes around.

 

[Khy]

I think, and I hope I am wrong, that Austin owners are going to be like Ingram owners...waiting, hoping, praying he comes around.

They're very similar situations in my opinion. They're players that have talent (I still believe this with Ingram) that are on teams who simply have no functional understanding of how to utilize them. That said, both still baffle me. Why both these teams would waste a pick on a player who obviously doesn't fit into their plan and scheme with a first round pick. The Rams are obviously even more baffling as they traded up just to take Austin then proceed to use him in the same way that you could use an UDFA and get the same production. If you weren't drafting him to take advantage of his freakish athletic talent, then why trade up for him?

I'm holding out that Austin still makes something happen, Shotty will be gone after this season... hell Fischer may even be gone. Then we'll hopefully see a good offensive mind come into Austin's life and turn this team around. I drafted Austin in 2 separate dynasty leagues, I assumed they were going to use him a ton. I'm not giving up just yet, I made a post today in the Tavon Austin thread. If people are giving up on him already? Then they were the same people who would have given up on Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin, Demaryius Thomas and Dez Bryant. Because after their first games, their stats were pretty damn comparable to Austin's.

 

[renesauz]

Would anyone who owns Allen Ina PPR dynasty league trade him for Tavon Austin? I was offered that and think it makes little to no sense to move a WR who keeps getting better each week, producing at a high level for a WR who played 4 snaps last week. Am I the only one who feels this way?

As an Austin dynasty owner, if I was offered Allen for him, I'd reject. Allen was always viewed as more NFL-ready, and I still like Austin more long-term. I think St. Louis needs an OC change more than anything.

Maybe I'm just falling for the sunk cost mentality though.

yep...you are. And this coming from someone who drafted Austin in one league. I would gladly trade him for Allen now.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Would anyone who owns Allen Ina PPR dynasty league trade him for Tavon Austin? I was offered that and think it makes little to no sense to move a WR who keeps getting better each week, producing at a high level for a WR who played 4 snaps last week. Am I the only one who feels this way?

As an Austin dynasty owner, if I was offered Allen for him, I'd reject. Allen was always viewed as more NFL-ready, and I still like Austin more long-term. I think St. Louis needs an OC change more than anything.

Maybe I'm just falling for the sunk cost mentality though.

I doubt Shotty jr goes anywhere its his first year in STL. they are .500 and building I doubt they want to keep switching OC's on Sam

 

[RBM]

Would anyone who owns Allen Ina PPR dynasty league trade him for Tavon Austin? I was offered that and think it makes little to no sense to move a WR who keeps getting better each week, producing at a high level for a WR who played 4 snaps last week. Am I the only one who feels this way?

As an Austin dynasty owner, if I was offered Allen for him, I'd reject. Allen was always viewed as more NFL-ready, and I still like Austin more long-term. I think St. Louis needs an OC change more than anything.

Maybe I'm just falling for the sunk cost mentality though.

I doubt Shotty jr goes anywhere its his first year in STL. they are .500 and building I doubt they want to keep switching OC's on Sam

Wasn't he there last year?

 

[Khy]

Would anyone who owns Allen Ina PPR dynasty league trade him for Tavon Austin? I was offered that and think it makes little to no sense to move a WR who keeps getting better each week, producing at a high level for a WR who played 4 snaps last week. Am I the only one who feels this way?

As an Austin dynasty owner, if I was offered Allen for him, I'd reject. Allen was always viewed as more NFL-ready, and I still like Austin more long-term. I think St. Louis needs an OC change more than anything.

Maybe I'm just falling for the sunk cost mentality though.

I doubt Shotty jr goes anywhere its his first year in STL. they are .500 and building I doubt they want to keep switching OC's on Sam

Wasn't he there last year?

Yes... and big shock. The offense was unimaginative and terrible last season as well. This year they gave him weapons because one could make the excuse that Shotty didn't have enough weapons to make something happen. What has he done with the massive additions to the teams, offensive line, backfield and receiving corps? Nothing, about the same as last season. He's awful and will be gone after this season. He'll be lucky to find another job as a QBs coach.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Would anyone who owns Allen Ina PPR dynasty league trade him for Tavon Austin? I was offered that and think it makes little to no sense to move a WR who keeps getting better each week, producing at a high level for a WR who played 4 snaps last week. Am I the only one who feels this way?

As an Austin dynasty owner, if I was offered Allen for him, I'd reject. Allen was always viewed as more NFL-ready, and I still like Austin more long-term. I think St. Louis needs an OC change more than anything.

Maybe I'm just falling for the sunk cost mentality though.

I doubt Shotty jr goes anywhere its his first year in STL. they are .500 and building I doubt they want to keep switching OC's on Sam

Wasn't he there last year?

yes you are right, I thought that he was new this year. my bad

 

[LawFitz]

Dudes, this is the Keenan Allen hype train. Not the Tavon Austin side car.

 

[Beerguzzler]

Dudes, this is the Keenan Allen hype train. Not the Tavon Austin side car.

Was about to type that. Thanks. No one gives a #### about mighty mite and his 4 snaps a game.

 

[Resident A]

Anybody notice KA's weekly ranking being awfully low this week at numerous sites around the net?

I've seen him ranked in the 40s and Vincent Brown much higher in 3 different places. The only explanation I can come up with is that the hack writers aren't watching the games. Or they already had their Week 7 rankings done before the Monday Night game.

 

[freeannyong]

On the waiver wire podcast they called him Top 20

 

[Khy]

Anybody notice KA's weekly ranking being awfully low this week at numerous sites around the net?

I've seen him ranked in the 40s and Vincent Brown much higher in 3 different places. The only explanation I can come up with is that the hack writers aren't watching the games. Or they already had their Week 7 rankings done before the Monday Night game.

Probably this, I think if we wait till Thursday you'll get Dodds and Trembley's updated projections and I expect to see him move up to the 15ish range. I think a lot of these guys work on these projections while watching SNF/MNF game so they can get them up ASAP on Monday/Tuesday morning.

 

[The Jerk]

Anybody notice KA's weekly ranking being awfully low this week at numerous sites around the net?

I've seen him ranked in the 40s and Vincent Brown much higher in 3 different places. The only explanation I can come up with is that the hack writers aren't watching the games. Or they already had their Week 7 rankings done before the Monday Night game.

Keep this phenomenon in mind the next time people lament about the shrinking information advantage in FF compared to a decade or more ago. It's true that it's harder to have an information advantage, and you get it from different sources and in smaller bites than before. But there are still times when it's possible to get a leg up on some of your competition.

I'll bet some of my league competitors didn't even know who Keenan Allen was when I picked him up a few weeks ago. And some owners who don't follow transactions in the league as closely as the others probably watched MNF and thought they should go pick up this surprisingly good-looking rookie receiver this week on waiv... oh, crap, he's already gone. I love that!

Don't let the "hack writers" influence you. Understand the few writers who are worth reading and consider their input, but you're better served by trusting yourself and proven Shark Pool posters. For the most part, the bigger the name of the sports organization, the worst their fantasy football input is. At least the Sunday pregame shows are no longer telling you to start Peyton Manning and Adrian Peterson.