Looked to me like he was out of the game completely after he left the field. I didn't see him in the 4th quarter.He only missed a few plays
Looked to me like he was out of the game completely after he left the field. I didn't see him in the 4th quarter.He only missed a few plays
Yeah - he was back in right after coming out of the locker room but seemed to leave for good after a few plays.Looked to me like he was out of the game completely after he left the field. I didn't see him in the 4th quarter.He only missed a few plays
agreed, hoping he was just held out precautionary. I need himHopefully he is healthy for next week.
Just listened to McCoy's post-game conference and nothing was mentioned about the injury. Not sure if that is a good or bad sign.X2I've got a bad feeling about this.
Huh? They threw everything they had out there trying to win this game today. A conservative precautionary move was not on the menu, imo.agreed, hoping he was just held out precautionary. I need himHopefully he is healthy for next week.
You would think, but sometimes these things don't get detected until after the adrenaline stops flowing well after the game.he was hurt but if it was really bad I doubt he would be on the sideline like that. Should be fine.
How long does it take for a hip flexor strain to heal?
With appropriate management, patients with a minor hip flexor strain can usually recover in one to three weeks. With larger tears, recovery may take four to eight weeks or longer depending on the severity. Complete ruptures of the hip flexor muscles are rare and are usually managed conservatively.
Keenan says in the same tweet that he doesn't think it's serious. But missing a week to us FF guys is pretty serious business.Hip flexor injury according to Schefter.
Looks like Allen and Hopkins will be #1/2 by the end of the year.Fun stats for the day.
Keenan Allen caught 14+ passes for the second time this season. Collectively, the rest of the NFL has combined to catch 14+ passes... well, actually, no one else has hit that mark in 2015. In 2014, only one player caught 14+ passes in a game. It was Zach Ertz, of course.
Keenan Allen became the 9th player in history, (well, since 1960 at least), with multiple 14+ catch games. Jason Witten currently holds the record with three such games. Allen also became the second player in history to catch 14+ passes multiple times in a single season. The first was Reggie Wayne in 2010.
Finally, Keenan Allen played just four games between his 14+ catch outings. That's the second-quickest turnaround. Jimmy Smith caught 14+ balls in the regular season finale in 1999, played two playoff games and the regular-season opener in 2000, and then lit up the Baltimore Ravens for 15/291/3 in week two, (for my money, the finest WR game ever played, factoring in the quality of defense he was facing). That gives him just three games between 14+ catch outings.
Also, not really a stat per se, but Keenan Allen is 23 years old.
Oh, this one definitely is a stat, though: with 29 more catches, Allen will tie Larry Fitzgerald's NFL record for receptions through a player's age-23 season. (Hopkins also shows pretty well on that list.)
He was a great cheap pickup in dynasty this offseason. Lots of people were down on him, and Stevie was coming in to take the reins as #1 WR in San Diego.Good stats there, Adam. He was definitely overlooked this year among the top receivers because he's not uber fast, explosive or big. But he just gets the job done.
I tried to get him in the offseason, starting with a 1st wasn't even close in a couple of leagues.He was a great cheap pickup in dynasty this offseason. Lots of people were down on him, and Stevie was coming in to take the reins as #1 WR in San Diego.Good stats there, Adam. He was definitely overlooked this year among the top receivers because he's not uber fast, explosive or big. But he just gets the job done.
Obviously depends on KA's hip. Even if healthy though, despite all the receptions, I'm not sure Allen will get enough TDs (Gates being the red zone monster he is) or enough YAC to be that high. But top 5-10 certainly in reach.Looks like Allen and Hopkins will be #1/2 by the end of the year.Fun stats for the day.
Keenan Allen caught 14+ passes for the second time this season. Collectively, the rest of the NFL has combined to catch 14+ passes... well, actually, no one else has hit that mark in 2015. In 2014, only one player caught 14+ passes in a game. It was Zach Ertz, of course.
Keenan Allen became the 9th player in history, (well, since 1960 at least), with multiple 14+ catch games. Jason Witten currently holds the record with three such games. Allen also became the second player in history to catch 14+ passes multiple times in a single season. The first was Reggie Wayne in 2010.
Finally, Keenan Allen played just four games between his 14+ catch outings. That's the second-quickest turnaround. Jimmy Smith caught 14+ balls in the regular season finale in 1999, played two playoff games and the regular-season opener in 2000, and then lit up the Baltimore Ravens for 15/291/3 in week two, (for my money, the finest WR game ever played, factoring in the quality of defense he was facing). That gives him just three games between 14+ catch outings.
Also, not really a stat per se, but Keenan Allen is 23 years old.
Oh, this one definitely is a stat, though: with 29 more catches, Allen will tie Larry Fitzgerald's NFL record for receptions through a player's age-23 season. (Hopkins also shows pretty well on that list.)
He is top 4 as we speak and only a few behind Fitz and Jones. The way he was playing I could def see him in the top 2-3 this year.Obviously depends on KA's hip. Even if healthy though, despite all the receptions, I'm not sure Allen will get enough TDs (Gates being the red zone monster he is) or enough YAC to be that high. But top 5-10 certainly in reach.Looks like Allen and Hopkins will be #1/2 by the end of the year.Fun stats for the day.
Keenan Allen caught 14+ passes for the second time this season. Collectively, the rest of the NFL has combined to catch 14+ passes... well, actually, no one else has hit that mark in 2015. In 2014, only one player caught 14+ passes in a game. It was Zach Ertz, of course.
Keenan Allen became the 9th player in history, (well, since 1960 at least), with multiple 14+ catch games. Jason Witten currently holds the record with three such games. Allen also became the second player in history to catch 14+ passes multiple times in a single season. The first was Reggie Wayne in 2010.
Finally, Keenan Allen played just four games between his 14+ catch outings. That's the second-quickest turnaround. Jimmy Smith caught 14+ balls in the regular season finale in 1999, played two playoff games and the regular-season opener in 2000, and then lit up the Baltimore Ravens for 15/291/3 in week two, (for my money, the finest WR game ever played, factoring in the quality of defense he was facing). That gives him just three games between 14+ catch outings.
Also, not really a stat per se, but Keenan Allen is 23 years old.
Oh, this one definitely is a stat, though: with 29 more catches, Allen will tie Larry Fitzgerald's NFL record for receptions through a player's age-23 season. (Hopkins also shows pretty well on that list.)
cstu meant that they would be #1/2 on the list of most receptions through age 23. Allen just needs 29 more receptions and Hopkins needs 50 more to tie Larry Fitzgerald's current record of 230 receptions. Barring injury, both players should clear it with ease. See the link in my last post for the complete list.Obviously depends on KA's hip. Even if healthy though, despite all the receptions, I'm not sure Allen will get enough TDs (Gates being the red zone monster he is) or enough YAC to be that high. But top 5-10 certainly in reach.Looks like Allen and Hopkins will be #1/2 by the end of the year.
I was shopping him for a 2016 first. (Admittedly: I was targeting the three worst teams in the league, in my opinion, so it would have likely been a high 2016 first.) Nobody bit. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.I tried to get him in the offseason, starting with a 1st wasn't even close in a couple of leagues.He was a great cheap pickup in dynasty this offseason. Lots of people were down on him, and Stevie was coming in to take the reins as #1 WR in San Diego.Good stats there, Adam. He was definitely overlooked this year among the top receivers because he's not uber fast, explosive or big. But he just gets the job done.
Ah - my bad.cstu meant that they would be #1/2 on the list of most receptions through age 23. Allen just needs 29 more receptions and Hopkins needs 50 more to tie Larry Fitzgerald's current record of 230 receptions. Barring injury, both players should clear it with ease. See the link in my last post for the complete list.Obviously depends on KA's hip. Even if healthy though, despite all the receptions, I'm not sure Allen will get enough TDs (Gates being the red zone monster he is) or enough YAC to be that high. But top 5-10 certainly in reach.Looks like Allen and Hopkins will be #1/2 by the end of the year.
update?McCoy having press conference at 4:20 EST (1:20 PST). Hopefully some update then.
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update?McCoy having press conference at 4:20 EST (1:20 PST). Hopefully some update then.
http://www.chargers.com/live
 From what I read on Twitter, no mention from McCoy during the press conference.update?McCoy having press conference at 4:20 EST (1:20 PST). Hopefully some update then.
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Rapaport said much the same thing.zamboni said:From the news blog - no source but seems like all is ok.
SD - Keenan Allen should be fine - Mon Oct 19, 07:37 PM
San Diego Chargers WR Keenan Allen (hip) suffered a hip sprain during the team's Week 6 game but should be able to play in the Week 7 game against the Oakland Raiders.
Probably because Rivers isn't going to throw for 500 yards every week.All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
You're saying FBGs lowered Keenan's projections for the next few weeks because they just now decided Rivers won't throw for 500 yards every week. Brilliant. Anybody else?Probably because Rivers isn't going to throw for 500 yards every week.All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
Some thoughts:You're saying FBGs lowered Keenan's projections for the next few weeks because they just now decided Rivers won't throw for 500 yards every week. Brilliant. Anybody else?Probably because Rivers isn't going to throw for 500 yards every week.All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
Don't tap on the glass.You're saying FBGs lowered Keenan's projections for the next few weeks because they just now decided Rivers won't throw for 500 yards every week. Brilliant. Anybody else?Probably because Rivers isn't going to throw for 500 yards every week.All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
Two different guys handle this week's projections and rest of season projections. Actually, to be more precise, there are three projectors for this week, (Dodds, Tremblay, Bloom), and one different one for weeks 8-17, (Henry).All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
LD has Allen OUT next week, 25% chance of playing in week 8, 50% chance of playing in week 9, then normal after that. Does that also get used by (or come from) Henry's ROS projections? It almost looks like somebody may have adjusted for Allen's hip then forgot to re-adjust for the positive news.Two different guys handle this week's projections and rest of season projections. Actually, to be more precise, there are three projectors for this week, (Dodds, Tremblay, Bloom), and one different one for weeks 8-17, (Henry).All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
Sounds to me like they just have a difference of opinion. Maybe Henry thinks Gates' return is going to eat into Allen's numbers, or his injury might linger.
No clue on that one, actually. Not sure how or when the LD populates its data, but I do agree with you that it looks like that's what happened.LD has Allen OUT next week, 25% chance of playing in week 8, 50% chance of playing in week 9, then normal after that. Does that also get used by (or come from) Henry's ROS projections? It almost looks like somebody may have adjusted for Allen's hip then forgot to re-adjust for the positive news.Two different guys handle this week's projections and rest of season projections. Actually, to be more precise, there are three projectors for this week, (Dodds, Tremblay, Bloom), and one different one for weeks 8-17, (Henry).All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
Sounds to me like they just have a difference of opinion. Maybe Henry thinks Gates' return is going to eat into Allen's numbers, or his injury might linger.
I'm all aboard the Keenan Allen train, so I agree. Just saying why someone else might disagree.It was Keenan eating into Gates's numbers before Keenan went down, not the other way around. Not to say the game plan won't shift more towards Gates when Keenan is blanketed, but I don't see Gates as a major deterrent to Keenan's numbers. The hip - maybe.
You still on their staff? I thought about checking with Henderson but with so many subscribers, pretty sure I'd be tossed in the junk box with a hundred other dumb subscriber questions.No clue on that one, actually. Not sure how or when the LD populates its data, but I do agree with you that it looks like that's what happened.LD has Allen OUT next week, 25% chance of playing in week 8, 50% chance of playing in week 9, then normal after that. Does that also get used by (or come from) Henry's ROS projections? It almost looks like somebody may have adjusted for Allen's hip then forgot to re-adjust for the positive news.Two different guys handle this week's projections and rest of season projections. Actually, to be more precise, there are three projectors for this week, (Dodds, Tremblay, Bloom), and one different one for weeks 8-17, (Henry).All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
Sounds to me like they just have a difference of opinion. Maybe Henry thinks Gates' return is going to eat into Allen's numbers, or his injury might linger.
They haven't fired me yet. At least, not that I know of.You still on their staff? I thought about checking with Henderson but with so many subscribers, pretty sure I'd be tossed in the junk box with a hundred other dumb subscriber questions.
The only way this makes sense is if FBG projected Rivers to throw for 500. That didn't happen.You're saying FBGs lowered Keenan's projections for the next few weeks because they just now decided Rivers won't throw for 500 yards every week. Brilliant. Anybody else?Probably because Rivers isn't going to throw for 500 yards every week.All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
Adam Harstad said:They haven't fired me yet. At least, not that I know of.VandyMan said:You still on their staff? I thought about checking with Henderson but with so many subscribers, pretty sure I'd be tossed in the junk box with a hundred other dumb subscriber questions.
I don't think this would be a Henderson issue, though. It doesn't sound like a glitch with the LD so much as an issue with the projections feeding into the LD. Which would be more the area of Bob Henry or David Dodds, I think. Not entirely sure; I haven't used the LD in years, and its workings are a bit of a mystery to me.
Edit: I shot off an email to Henry. I'll let you know if and when I hear back.
 Pretty much just as expected. Bob said he had to take a best guess given the information he had available. New information came out. He hadn't updated yet. Pretty much the nature of the industry- everything is stale from the moment you hit submit. Said he'd get it in the next update.
All valid points, though it looks like they are modifying their projections upward for weeks 8 and 9. On the Top 200 Forward they have him at WR21 today. That'll be higher tomorrow, but still might be lower than last week for the reasons you listed.RenegadeRoy said:Some thoughts:VandyMan said:You're saying FBGs lowered Keenan's projections for the next few weeks because they just now decided Rivers won't throw for 500 yards every week. Brilliant. Anybody else?Meatwad Reloaded said:Probably because Rivers isn't going to throw for 500 yards every week.VandyMan said:All the news on this hip injury has been positive, but I see FBGs lowered his projections for the next few weeks. Maybe they overreacted and just haven't corrected it yet. WR9 this week but WR22 ROS!!?? Weird.
- Offensive line has looked worse, giving Rivers less time.
- Gates has come back and still looks good
- Stevie Johnson is eventually going to come back
- Rivers seems to always decline in the back half of the season
- And Keenan is a little banged up