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WR Laquon Treadwell, SEA (2 Viewers)

Unwrittenlaw said:
Laquan Treadwell = Rueben Randle/Limas Sweed/Jon Baldwin II
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I disagree.  That's not a very good comparison at all.  Sweed and Baldwin were top performers in the vert and broad jump and all 3 of those guys posted faster dash times.  Also, Treadwell can actually play WR and catch.  

 
Xue said:
My splits for Laquon Treadwell's 40 yard dash:

10-yard: 1.70

20-yard: 2.73

40-yard: 4.67

Would you believe me if I told you Treadwell is faster running a route than he does the 40 yard dash?

Treadwell ran a 15-yard Out route where he covered the first 10 yards in 1.60 seconds.

He had horrible form on his 40. Too upright. On his route, he had a much more natural forward lean. Just looks relaxed. "Game Speed" In the last 20 yards Treadwell covered the distance in 1.93 seconds. Treadwell also covered the first 20 yards after the finish, when he "slowed down", in 1.93 seconds. How is this possible? What does it mean?
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Yes. Its the difference between game speed and track speed.  As a very basic premise is whether a player runs, cuts and moves well in full pads and with a guy in his space.

 
Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell is visiting the Browns on Thursday, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Media.
Treadwell is not in play at pick No. 2, but the Browns have a number of picks and could try to move up from their second round selection to secure one of the top four receivers in this class. The Josh Gordon saga and Travis Benjamin leaving in free agency has left the Browns with the worst receivers in the NFL. Many evaluators believe the receiver class falls off the proverbial cliff after the top four. Treadwell is the type of possession receiver NFL teams should value.

 
 
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 
Mar 31 - 10:17 AM

 
 

ESPN's Steve Muench advises the Bills to take a long look at Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell in the first round.
 
"While Treadwell doesn't have great top-end speed, his big frame and strong hands regularly result in him making contested catches and he's productive after the catch," he wrote. "He's also an excellent blocker making him a good fit for the scheme. With Sammy Watkins and Treadwell on the outside, Robert Woods would compete for the No. 3 role where he has the potential to be more effective." We're not as high on Treadwell as most, partly because of his lack of wheels (4.63 40 at his Pro Day) and the difficulty that gives him with consistently separating.

 
 
Source: ESPN.com 
Apr 4 - 3:38 PM
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In CBS Sports draft analyst Dane Brugler's April 3 mock draft, he projected the Bills to draft Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell with the 19th selection on April 28.
"Tyrod Taylor is the quarterback in Buffalo at the moment," Brugler wrote in his mock, "and he'll need all the help he can get. Treadwell would be an ideal complement to Sammy Watkins on the outside." While you should take mock drafts with a requisite grain of salt, Brugler's hypothetical match has its benefits. Watkins and the 6-foot-2, 221-pound Treadwell offer different skill-sets. ESPN's Steve Muench is on board with this idea, writing that Treadwell's "big frame and strong hands regularly result in him making contested catches and he's productive after the catch" and noting that if the Bills drafted him, it could have the added benefit of helping the development of would-be-in-this-situation No. 3 wideout Robert Woods.

 
 
Source: CBS Sports 
Apr 4 - 11:42 PM


 
Miss WR Laquon Treadwell had only 12 plays from scrimmage of 30 or more yards in 2015.
This gives you some context for why Treadwell's Pro Day 40-yard dash of 4.63 seconds troubled some folks. Other top receiver prospects like Baylor's Corey Coleman, Notre Dame's Will Fuller and TCU's Josh Doctson had 41, 36, and 21 30-plus yard plays last year, respectively. NC State sophomore TE Jaylen Samuels had 17.

 
 
Source: MMQB 
Apr 8 - 5:55 PM

 
I love the way this guy makes contested catches and catches the ball in general. I think a lot of people are down on him because they thought he was a surefire WR1 in fantasy. Its still debatable, but I see the guy being a rock solid WR2 with WR1 potential in the right situation. I'm starting to feel that Dez comparison is spot on. 

 
dipandglide said:
I love the way this guy makes contested catches and catches the ball in general. I think a lot of people are down on him because they thought he was a surefire WR1 in fantasy. Its still debatable, but I see the guy being a rock solid WR2 with WR1 potential in the right situation. I'm starting to feel that Dez comparison is spot on. 
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he's an interesting case study.  His athletic measurables are that of a pee wee football player.  his production on the field was average, yet he's hyped as a great WR by well known media sources.

Very interested to see how he pans out in the end.

 
 

ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. pegged the Lions to select Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell with the 16th pick in his April 6 mock draft.
"It's absurd to say Treadwell can replace Calvin Johnson -- nobody is doing that -- but he does give them length, strong hands and playmaking ability," Kiper wrote, adding that "[t]hey can get a good D-lineman in either of the next two rounds thanks to so much depth at the position." Regardless of whether Detroit pulls the trigger on him, the Lions are at least doing their due diligence when it comes to the 6-foot-2, 221-pounder. They sent OC Jim Bob Cooter to Treadwell's Pro Day at the end of March. The Chargers, Cardinals and Rams also sent representatives to watch the wideout run through his drills.

 
 
Source: ESPN Insider 
Apr 11 - 11:56 PM
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TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline reports that teams don't buy the narrative that Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell has been surpassed as the No. 1 receiver in the class.
Pauline himself agrees with the stance. "They point to the fact no one ever believed Treadwell was a vertical receiver rather a game-controlling wideout, and he should be lethal on third down and in the red zone. It's another opinion I agree with." The analyst added that the Giants "continue to show strong interest" in Treadwell, who is in play for the 10th pick.

 
 
Source: Walter Football 
Apr 14 - 2:03 PM


 
Not sure i've seen a mock draft that didn't have him going to the Rams at 15.  Wonder if this changes anything.  Titans could use a wr to help Mariota so maybe still makes sense in this slot...

 
Tool said:
Not sure i've seen a mock draft that didn't have him going to the Rams at 15.  Wonder if this changes anything.  Titans could use a wr to help Mariota so maybe still makes sense in this slot...
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DGB and Treadwell could be a scary duo for years to come. 

 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15212735/after-playing-one-leg-laquon-treadwell-ole-miss-rebels-eager-prove-nfl-draft-2016


After playing 'on one leg,' Laquon Treadwell eager to prove himself


...Maybe Treadwell wasn't as explosive as he wanted to be on tape this season after suffering a horrific lower leg injury as a sophomore in 2014, yet he still produced 1,153 yards and 11 touchdowns on 82 receptions this year for Ole Miss. Those are legit numbers versus SEC competition after working his way back through an extremely tough rehab.

"I wasn't 100 percent the whole year," Treadwell said. "I basically played in the SEC on one leg. And to see the things I did on just natural ability and competing at a high level ... that's unbelievable to me."

 
CR69 said:
Treadwell ran a 4.63 40-yard dash at his pro day. That's comparable to Hopkins' 4.57 40-yard dash coming out of college, and it hasn't been an issue for Hopkins (and Treadwell's time is the same 40 time as Larry Fitzgerald posted coming out of college). 

Big fan of this kid. I want Dallas to trade down and take him at 7-9
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This came up in a big discussion about Treadwell. Regardless what you think of Treadwell, let me set the record straight.

From Mel Kiper's insider article in 2004: "As expected, Pittsburgh WR Larry Fitzgerald did not work out, but he was measured at nearly 6-3, which was a question coming in."

He did run a 4.47-4.50 at his pro day. Multiple links as proof:http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-27132.html

http://www.jetsinsider.org/forums/threads/64353-Larry-Fitzgerald-Pro-Day-numbers

Kiper: "Running on artificial turf at Pitt's indoor practice facility, Fitzgerald ran an average 40 time of 4.50."

Here's an explanation why you may be seeing 4.63 at the combine. It was a website data error.

 
4.6 is the cutoff for me to consider him slow vs. functional speed.  If you run 4.6 or worse especially at a pro-day then in my eyes you either 1. can't learn how to run it with proper technique or 2. you are just slow.  There is nothing else and both are indications that he won't be as good as some might hype him up to be.  

I remember watching Nuk coming out of college and he had everything other than being super fast, but he improved his numbers when he had a chance (4.57 at combine, 4.41/4.50 at pro day).  Show improvement or learn to do it the way you're suppose to inflate your stock, Treadwell showed a lack of both and I just can't get on his bandwagon.

 
Zyphros said:
4.6 is the cutoff for me to consider him slow vs. functional speed.  If you run 4.6 or worse especially at a pro-day then in my eyes you either 1. can't learn how to run it with proper technique or 2. you are just slow.  There is nothing else and both are indications that he won't be as good as some might hype him up to be.  

I remember watching Nuk coming out of college and he had everything other than being super fast, but he improved his numbers when he had a chance (4.57 at combine, 4.41/4.50 at pro day).  Show improvement or learn to do it the way you're suppose to inflate your stock, Treadwell showed a lack of both and I just can't get on his bandwagon.
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You have chosen wisely.

 
 



Vikings selected Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell with the No. 23 overall pick in the 2016 draft.
Treadwell (6'2/221) needed only three years at Ole Miss to set a school record for receptions (202), parlaying them into 2,393 yards (11.8 YPR) and 21 career TDs. He was a first-team All-SEC pick as a 2015 junior. Treadwell won't turn 21 until a month and a half after the draft and offers room for growth despite unimpressive workout metrics, running 4.64 with a 33 1/2-inch vertical. Rather than speed and athleticism, Treadwell wins with length, body control, ball skills, and physicality after the catch. An ultra-competitive player, Treadwell will be a playmaking possession receiver in the NFL.

 
 
 
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EBF said:
Too early to say IMO. Not a big Boyd fan myself. He's not huge and isn't expected to run blazing times at the combine. I don't see how he's going to consistently win against NFL corners. I will take a long look at him before reaching a final verdict though.

One guy to keep an eye on is Treadwell's teammate Damore'ea Stringfellow. Ten cent head, but has the physical talent to potentially be an NFL prospect.

Corey Coleman is probably gonna put up huge numbers at Baylor and could be a 2nd-4th rounder.

There will be late-risers. There always are. At the moment I'm not in love with this WR class though.
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EBF said:
Another WR name to remember for 2016: Will Fuller from Notre Dame.

Guy has been dynamite so far this year and looks like a pretty legit athlete. Not huge, but fluid.

I guess his name is too simple to be good though. Let's call him De'Willyius Fuller
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Not bad for September. Fuller and Coleman ended up going a little higher than I thought was possible.

I'm still not feeling this class very much. I like that 1.01 spot and I'm glad I have it in a couple leagues because I think it's a minefield after that. Coleman seems like he will be my solid #2. I'm going to sit down and look at that Fuller/Docston/Treadwell cluster to try to make sense of it before my rookie drafts. They all have red flags. Fuller is tiny and a one-trick pony. You hope he'll be T.Y. Hilton or DeSean Jackson, but some say Ted Ginn. Doctson has the hops, production, and ball skills. Cut from the same cloth as AJ Green and Devante Parker. Twig frame like Justin Hunter though and merely average speed. Everyone knows the story with Treadwell. Low yards per reception numbers at Ole Miss coupled with terrible combine explosiveness results suggests that he could just be a rich man's Mohamed Sanu. I feel like he usually looked solid when I saw him in college though.

I've put less effort into this draft than any in recent memory, so I'm really solid with my take on any of those three. On first glance there's no a can't-miss player in that trio, but I bet at least one of the three will have a decent career. It's a puzzle for people with the #3 pick.

 
Sabertooth said:
Love this landing spot from a fantasy perspective.  
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i agree, I think teddy will love having a short/intermediate yardage target who can make a play after the catch

this worked out well for minny, they may have been targeting doctson as well, but i think treadwell is a better fit

 
Zimmer says that Treadwell is the best blocking WR he has ever seen.

He says this was not a big factor in why they drafted him. They drafted him for his WR skills and strength, the blocking is just an added bonus for a team that likes to run the ball.

 
Zyphros said:
4.6 is the cutoff for me to consider him slow vs. functional speed.  If you run 4.6 or worse especially at a pro-day then in my eyes you either 1. can't learn how to run it with proper technique or 2. you are just slow.  There is nothing else and both are indications that he won't be as good as some might hype him up to be.  

I remember watching Nuk coming out of college and he had everything other than being super fast, but he improved his numbers when he had a chance (4.57 at combine, 4.41/4.50 at pro day).  Show improvement or learn to do it the way you're suppose to inflate your stock, Treadwell showed a lack of both and I just can't get on his bandwagon.
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Nuk did not run better at his Pro Day. It's amazing that people choose to ignore his "on-field speed" and continue to knock his poor 40.

 
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I've been meaning to post this earlier.

Based off Pro Day footage. On his fastest route, Treadwell covered the first 10 yards in 1.57 seconds.

Treadwell's teammate, Cody Core had a best of 1.53

Adding more context, Core's 10-yard split at the Combine was 1.57.

All the routes I used were 15 yard Out routes. Neither ran a route where they ran straight for more than 20 yards, so I couldn't measure anything past 10 yards.

 
What did he run at his pro-day?  Or are all the site I'm seeing that have him at 4.41/4.50 on his pro day wrong?

 
I worry more about Bridgewater than Treadwell.  If Bridgewater can steadily improve, this offense could mean something this year and beyond.

 
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