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WR Odell Beckham, Jr., Free Agent (7 Viewers)

He's Antonio Brown, with arguably better ball skills when its in the air (I think OBJ highpoints it better than AB does). AB might be slightly better with it in his hands though, but thats nitpicking. No way would I rank them close to the same right now, but we are getting good glimpses into this kids future and boy does he shine.
Let's not carve his bust just yet BUT, I think you make a great point. I love Brown and wish I wouldn't have fallen for the bias that because he's small compared to the "elite big 6-7" WRs all ranked ahead of him this year--I passed on him in all standard formats and I think he's out scoring them all even in non-ppr. I won't make the same mistake next year and I'll put ODB is that same thought process.

 
He's absolutely class ! Glad I had the faith in him yesterday, only problem going forward will be deciding between him and Gordon for the flex spot in my team hehe

 
every week must start from here on out. WR2 with WR1 stud potential, especially with the Giants D being this bad.
Was just thinking this. He has to be an every week start from here on out, and he has certainly delivered numerous WR1 weeks already.
 
I dealt Dez Bryant to make room to keep playing this guy because he is just that good. IMO he is a top 10 WR the rest of the way

 
I dealt Dez Bryant to make room to keep playing this guy because he is just that good. IMO he is a top 10 WR the rest of the way
Interesting. PPR or not, how did 11 teams allow a combination of Manning, Murray, Dez, Nelson to not all get drafted in the first 2 rounds.

 
every week must start from here on out. WR2 with WR1 stud potential, especially with the Giants D being this bad.
Was just thinking this. He has to be an every week start from here on out, and he has certainly delivered numerous WR1 weeks already.
How much do we think that performance may flip flop any given game between him and Randle going forward? I think we've seen what we've seen -- Beckham is more dynamic and is making more out of his targets -- but it worries me that it could just as well be Randle any given Sunday.

 
every week must start from here on out. WR2 with WR1 stud potential, especially with the Giants D being this bad.
Was just thinking this. He has to be an every week start from here on out, and he has certainly delivered numerous WR1 weeks already.
How much do we think that performance may flip flop any given game between him and Randle going forward? I think we've seen what we've seen -- Beckham is more dynamic and is making more out of his targets -- but it worries me that it could just as well be Randle any given Sunday.
Randle's been getting the targets, he's just not good. Beckham's stock has been rising week by week both within the team and within the NFL/nationally. I wouldn't worry about Randle.

 
As good as he's been the last few weeks I'm benching him in favor of ABrown and Evans. Evans has actually produced more over the last 3 weeks and I am concerned about SF def. Not sure he's quite matchup proof yet, though the performance against Seattle would certainly suggest otherwise.

 
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I had been kicking myself the first couple months of the season for selecting Beckham over Cooks (and over various others) in several rookie drafts. Feeling pretty good now.

 
I had been kicking myself the first couple months of the season for selecting Beckham over Cooks (and over various others) in several rookie drafts. Feeling pretty good now.
I spent a good portion of this season shopping Becks and my first for an upgrade no takers. The WR of my dreams was right under my nose the whole time.

 
My only problem with this guy is deciding whether to play him over Gordon next week.

Thinking of dealing him away for a RB. What would you expect to get for him?

 
montana_grizzly_bears said:
Trying to shop him for a RB1 or 2 and really have no takers at this point. Right now he is my 4th WR.
same, would love to pretend i knew he would be good but was shopping him for any future 1st earlier in the season. Thankfully nobody else liked him either.

 
Dragon1952 said:
I had been kicking myself the first couple months of the season for selecting Beckham over Cooks (and over various others) in several rookie drafts. Feeling pretty good now.
I love both of these guys and would be happy with either of them.
 
Dragon1952 said:
I had been kicking myself the first couple months of the season for selecting Beckham over Cooks (and over various others) in several rookie drafts. Feeling pretty good now.
I had to "settle" for him in our rookie draft at #11 after missing on Benjamin, Cooks, Watkins, and Evans. Matthews and Marqise Lee also went ahead of him. Feeling pretty good right now.

 
Dragon1952 said:
I had been kicking myself the first couple months of the season for selecting Beckham over Cooks (and over various others) in several rookie drafts. Feeling pretty good now.
I had to "settle" for him in our rookie draft at #11 after missing on Benjamin, Cooks, Watkins, and Evans. Matthews and Marqise Lee also went ahead of him. Feeling pretty good right now.
Wow I never saw him go that late. Was your draft late in the preseason after he got hurt or something?

 
I dealt Dez Bryant to make room to keep playing this guy because he is just that good. IMO he is a top 10 WR the rest of the way
Interesting. PPR or not, how did 11 teams allow a combination of Manning, Murray, Dez, Nelson to not all get drafted in the first 2 rounds.
It was an auction. I spent almost every single dollar on those 4. We have very short benches so I felt confident I could hit on some other guys on the waiver wire.

 
dcgangstas said:
Is he startable vs the 49ers? Haven't been paying close attention to the 49ers....is their D still pretty good?
He just tore up Richard Sherman. He's match up proof.
Agreed. I'm starting him this week with Antonio Brown and Mike Evans, putting Roddy White and Pierre Garcon on the pine.
yeah...after sitting him against Seattle I'm thinking you can start him against anybody.....however, Roddy and Garcon do have primo matchups this week.

 
Whats this guys keeper value? Will he be more valuable than cruz once he returns next season?

 
Whats this guys keeper value? Will he be more valuable than cruz once he returns next season?
it's not even close for me. I view ODB>>>Cruz, especially coming off a serious injury. He is their AJ Green and the guy that they'll count on to make the big play going forward.

 
Whats this guys keeper value? Will he be more valuable than cruz once he returns next season?
it's not even close for me. I view ODB>>>Cruz, especially coming off a serious injury. He is their AJ Green and the guy that they'll count on to make the big play going forward.
I agree but it could really help Cruz as well. Look at Cruz when Nicks was playing well. Cruz plays best as a slot guy. Slot guys do their best when the defense is focused on stopping a bigger down field threat.

 
Whats this guys keeper value? Will he be more valuable than cruz once he returns next season?
it's not even close for me. I view ODB>>>Cruz, especially coming off a serious injury. He is their AJ Green and the guy that they'll count on to make the big play going forward.
I agree but it could really help Cruz as well. Look at Cruz when Nicks was playing well. Cruz plays best as a slot guy. Slot guys do their best when the defense is focused on stopping a bigger down field threat.
ya but I just see Beckham being that guy that runs great routes, with speed and great hands that can be the target monster of the offense. Get 10 targets/game but also has that ability to take it deep at any point.

 
Whats this guys keeper value? Will he be more valuable than cruz once he returns next season?
it's not even close for me. I view ODB>>>Cruz, especially coming off a serious injury. He is their AJ Green and the guy that they'll count on to make the big play going forward.
I agree but it could really help Cruz as well. Look at Cruz when Nicks was playing well. Cruz plays best as a slot guy. Slot guys do their best when the defense is focused on stopping a bigger down field threat.
ya but I just see Beckham being that guy that runs great routes, with speed and great hands that can be the target monster of the offense. Get 10 targets/game but also has that ability to take it deep at any point.
Yes, Beckham is the #1. He is what Nicks was supposed to have been.

 
What was ODB's adp for Labor Day standard 12-team redrafts? We have 20 spot rosters and a lot of garbage was obviously drafted but not Odell. I didn't pick him until week 3 or so, a few weeks before he came back. Does that sound typical?

Seems crazy in hindsight. Obviously the timing of the Cruz injury raised his 2014 ceiling by a good margin.

 
What was ODB's adp for Labor Day standard 12-team redrafts? We have 20 spot rosters and a lot of garbage was obviously drafted but not Odell. I didn't pick him until week 3 or so, a few weeks before he came back. Does that sound typical?

Seems crazy in hindsight. Obviously the timing of the Cruz injury raised his 2014 ceiling by a good margin.
ODB wasn't drafted in the three 12-team leagues that I'm in.

A lot of fantasy owners were scared off by his hamstring injury during training camp, and Tom Coughlin's public frustration with Beckham's inability to practice.

However, the talent was always there. Reuben Randle's nothing special and the Giants know it. ODB is the clear playmaker and #1 WR on that team from here on out.

 
What was ODB's adp for Labor Day standard 12-team redrafts? We have 20 spot rosters and a lot of garbage was obviously drafted but not Odell. I didn't pick him until week 3 or so, a few weeks before he came back. Does that sound typical?

Seems crazy in hindsight. Obviously the timing of the Cruz injury raised his 2014 ceiling by a good margin.
I think people WWAAAAYY overstress about the draft and ADP and which rounds guys go in. If you like a player, get him, reach a round early because half of your players aren't going to work out.

My team has Rothlisberger, Tre Mason, Beckham, CJ Anderson, Crowell, Gray, Denard Robinson, Gordon...none of which were drafted. My other 2 teams are essentially the same.

 
What was ODB's adp for Labor Day standard 12-team redrafts? We have 20 spot rosters and a lot of garbage was obviously drafted but not Odell. I didn't pick him until week 3 or so, a few weeks before he came back. Does that sound typical?

Seems crazy in hindsight. Obviously the timing of the Cruz injury raised his 2014 ceiling by a good margin.
I think people WWAAAAYY overstress about the draft and ADP and which rounds guys go in. If you like a player, get him, reach a round early because half of your players aren't going to work out.

My team has Rothlisberger, Tre Mason, Beckham, CJ Anderson, Crowell, Gray, Denard Robinson, Gordon...none of which were drafted. My other 2 teams are essentially the same.
Of course.. I agree. ADP was prolly not the best term to use. More just asking was he on the radar.

I own him via WW, and yet am somehow pissed I didn't draft him in the first place. Do your summer homework Buck! :doh:

 
What was ODB's adp for Labor Day standard 12-team redrafts? We have 20 spot rosters and a lot of garbage was obviously drafted but not Odell. I didn't pick him until week 3 or so, a few weeks before he came back. Does that sound typical?

Seems crazy in hindsight. Obviously the timing of the Cruz injury raised his 2014 ceiling by a good margin.
I think people WWAAAAYY overstress about the draft and ADP and which rounds guys go in. If you like a player, get him, reach a round early because half of your players aren't going to work out.

My team has Rothlisberger, Tre Mason, Beckham, CJ Anderson, Crowell, Gray, Denard Robinson, Gordon...none of which were drafted. My other 2 teams are essentially the same.
Of course.. I agree. ADP was prolly not the best term to use. More just asking was he on the radar.

I own him via WW, and yet am somehow pissed I didn't draft him in the first place. Do your summer homework Buck! :doh:
It's hard to get excited about any rookie WR's in redraft, let alone guys who miss almost all of training camp and he first few weeks of the season. Also, if Cruz stayed healthy, Beckham was only supposed to be used on 3WR sets. I think a lot of people knew that he was extremely talented and is the WR of the future for the Giants, but didn't expect him to be worth much for most, if not all, of his rookie season.

Cody Latimer is also an extremely talented WR. His route to playing time is usually the norm for rookies and why drafting Beckham really didn't make sense. Beckham is just having the perfect storm of injuries and players underperforming which forced him onto the field in a significant role earlier than expected.

It's very Keenan Allen-esque.

 
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Dragon1952 said:
I had been kicking myself the first couple months of the season for selecting Beckham over Cooks (and over various others) in several rookie drafts. Feeling pretty good now.
I had to "settle" for him in our rookie draft at #11 after missing on Benjamin, Cooks, Watkins, and Evans. Matthews and Marqise Lee also went ahead of him. Feeling pretty good right now.
Wow I never saw him go that late. Was your draft late in the preseason after he got hurt or something?
Yeah, we draft mid-August; I think he was hurt by then. Top ten went:

Cooks, Brandin NOS WR
Watkins, Sammy BUF WR
Evans, Mike TBB WR
Matthews, Jordan PHI WR
Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR
Sankey, Bishop TEN RB
Ebron, Eric DET TE
Hyde, Carlos SFO RB
Lee, Marqise JAC WR
Hill, Jeremy CIN RB
 
Dragon1952 said:
I had been kicking myself the first couple months of the season for selecting Beckham over Cooks (and over various others) in several rookie drafts. Feeling pretty good now.
I had to "settle" for him in our rookie draft at #11 after missing on Benjamin, Cooks, Watkins, and Evans. Matthews and Marqise Lee also went ahead of him. Feeling pretty good right now.
Wow I never saw him go that late. Was your draft late in the preseason after he got hurt or something?
Yeah, we draft mid-August; I think he was hurt by then. Top ten went:

Cooks, Brandin NOS WR
Watkins, Sammy BUF WR
Evans, Mike TBB WR
Matthews, Jordan PHI WR
Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR
Sankey, Bishop TEN RB
Ebron, Eric DET TE
Hyde, Carlos SFO RB
Lee, Marqise JAC WR
Hill, Jeremy CIN RB
ouch

 
Yeah, we draft mid-August; I think he was hurt by then. Top ten went:


Cooks, Brandin NOS WR
Watkins, Sammy BUF WR
Evans, Mike TBB WR
Matthews, Jordan PHI WR
Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR
Sankey, Bishop TEN RB
Ebron, Eric DET TE
Hyde, Carlos SFO RB
Lee, Marqise JAC WR
Hill, Jeremy CIN RB
ouch
Ebron went 1.5 in my league. Drafted in July. I took Beckham at 1.7.

 
Yeah, we draft mid-August; I think he was hurt by then. Top ten went:


Cooks, Brandin NOS WR
Watkins, Sammy BUF WR
Evans, Mike TBB WR
Matthews, Jordan PHI WR
Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR
Sankey, Bishop TEN RB
Ebron, Eric DET TE
Hyde, Carlos SFO RB
Lee, Marqise JAC WR
Hill, Jeremy CIN RB
ouch
Ebron went 1.5 in my league. Drafted in July. I took Beckham at 1.7.
I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time, and in dynasty I'm not sure I can blame them. But still, ouch. Beckham is looking like a very solid pick at 7. And that's putting it mildly. Cruz's injury certainly put his production on fast forward. It's a shame in one sense as I've always been a big fan of Cruz, but this Beckham kid has the goods.

 
Yeah, we draft mid-August; I think he was hurt by then. Top ten went:


Cooks, Brandin NOS WR
Watkins, Sammy BUF WR
Evans, Mike TBB WR
Matthews, Jordan PHI WR
Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR
Sankey, Bishop TEN RB
Ebron, Eric DET TE
Hyde, Carlos SFO RB
Lee, Marqise JAC WR
Hill, Jeremy CIN RB
ouch
Ebron went 1.5 in my league. Drafted in July. I took Beckham at 1.7.
I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time, and in dynasty I'm not sure I can blame them. But still, ouch. Beckham is looking like a very solid pick at 7. And that's putting it mildly. Cruz's injury certainly put his production on fast forward. It's a shame in one sense as I've always been a big fan of Cruz, but this Beckham kid has the goods.
Got Beckham myself at 1.11 in a 16 team dynasty. It is start 2 RB, so that pushes them up a bit. Our draft was mid August, OBJ was dealing with the hamstring strain, and the depth of the WR class seemed to push all of them outside of the top-3 down a bit. Watkins and Evans had the pedigree and hype of dominance, while Cooks had the Brees and Payton hype. OBJ tumbled.

First round:

1.01 - Watkins

1.02 - Evans

1.03 - Sankey (laughed at the time - wasn't outrageous but i never liked Sankey)

1.04 - Cooks (this guy later stated he should've drafted Hyde, which... he should have in our format)

1.05 - Hyde

1.06 - Ebron (my original pick - traded back in a much bigger deal to 1.11)

1.07 - Hill

1.08 - Benjamin (looked like a huge reach at the time, but it's worked out)

1.09 - Andre Williams (again, the RB-heavy nature of the league pushes these guys up, but I didn't like this pick at the time)

1.10 - Devonta Freeman (Hard Knocks and preseason 'Andre Bradshaw' hype)

1.11 - Odell Beckham (my pick)

1.12 - Matthews

1.13 - West

1.14 - Mason

1.15 - Manziel

1.16 - Marquise Lee

I'd be lying if I said I didn't consider West and Mason at 1.11 given the WRs just kept falling and were so deep, and others in the league were reaching for RBs (so they were drying up), but ultimately sided with talent and pedigree. I couldn't be happier.

 
montana_grizzly_bears said:
Trying to shop him for a RB1 or 2 and really have no takers at this point. Right now he is my 4th WR.
montana_grizzly_bears said:
Trying to shop him for a RB1 or 2 and really have no takers at this point. Right now he is my 4th WR.
So trade your third receiver and insert OBJ as your new three. Problem solved.

 
Yeah, we draft mid-August; I think he was hurt by then. Top ten went:

Cooks, Brandin NOS WR

Watkins, Sammy BUF WR

Evans, Mike TBB WR

Matthews, Jordan PHI WR

Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR

Sankey, Bishop TEN RB

Ebron, Eric DET TE

Hyde, Carlos SFO RB

Lee, Marqise JAC WR

Hill, Jeremy CIN RB
ouch
Ebron went 1.5 in my league. Drafted in July. I took Beckham at 1.7.
Our draft took place toward the end of pre season when everyone was worried about his injury (so short sighted for dynasty and that's not hindsight as his talent was always obvious) Beckham at 2.1 after nabbing Watkins at 1.1 in a 12 team dynasty. 2 QB leaguess so the top 3 QBS all went round 1. Later was able to get Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, and Crowell. The WR depth and talent this season was unreal so I loaded up there while others were grabbing the underwhelming QBs and RBs. Finally went with Crowell at 5.1 because the talent/potential combo was too great to pass up in round 5.
 
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