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WR Rashee Rice, KC (4 Viewers)

I put £50 on Rice 2TDs and over 65.5 yards, returns £700 odd. I think it’s gonna be tight Chiefs might come off the pedal. Just need one well working crossing route that gets him in space or something long up the outside
How dem limited snaps working out ?
who said limited snaps?lol he wasn't injured
You missed some reading and radio this week then

I heard it plenty from XM hosts

Real Talk Raf called it out on Monday on XM

People here go back and read
U defintel shouldn't listen to those people

Not sure why I’ve been dragged into this 😂
NIce wager though, brother

Yeah, Raiders couldn’t keep up their end of the bargain, otherwise I would have walked it. He got 1 reception for 6 yards 2nd half
oh damn. I didnt see the yardage, sorry dude. But you had the right idea. Cheers
 
There's an argument for Rice as WR1 overall going forward. He was a foot away from another TD, and both these games have been in big wins, what happens when KC has a neutral, or chase script?
 
There's an argument for Rice as WR1 overall going forward. He was a foot away from another TD, and both these games have been in big wins, what happens when KC has a neutral, or chase script?
I wouldn't go that far, but I think Rice is WR5 going forward, behind Chase, Nacua, Smith-Njigba, and St Brown.

I think Pickens is taking more from Lamb, Jefferson is having QB issues,

Rice has the best QB in the game. Schedule is OK too.......@BUF, bye, @Den, IND, @DAL, HOU, LAC, @TEN, DEN. DEN defense is good, but they haven't seen KC fully loaded. BUF, IND, DAL, and LAC games are potential shootouts. They will score at least 30 on TEN.

Congrats if you held Rice through his suspension. He's going to win some leagues this year.
 
There's an argument for Rice as WR1 overall going forward. He was a foot away from another TD, and both these games have been in big wins, what happens when KC has a neutral, or chase script?
I endorse the argument as WR1, he isn't even fully up to 100% this is only a second game but Mahomes trusts this guy no diggety no doubt. He had a shot to have 3 TDs if you watch the catches he was inches a way on another and again close to when they tried to rush him in as a wildcat QB!. Unreal. This is really becoming one of my fave picks in all of Fantasy Football. I'm so happy.

Oh and he had a LB on him based on how he lines up(Whacha gonna do?)... total matchup nightmare for Bobby Wagner.

Here is a fluff piece to make it so this isn't just a bump. TLDR Kelce tells Rice to put the team on his back at halftime and then he goes off.
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mcdowell/article312663134.html

To The Mooooon! Congrats to all who weathered the suspension. Diamond Hands and HODL!
 
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Am I the only one that thought he was trying to throw the ball to the ref on his UC penalty?
I do think it's likely, getting in a guy's face, standing over him after a big play, even spinning a ball near a guy or something, guys do that all the time... but to actually hit another guy in the head with the ball? As HSG said in another thread, “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”.
 
Besides his touchdown, he had the touchdown called back on the wildcat play where he was a few inches short, plus the dive and extend on the sideline that ended up a yard short of the end zone. He was inches from having 5 touchdowns in his two games back. Added to his receptions and yardage. Responding to the poster above asking if he could be WR! going forward, he's definitely in the discussion.
 
Am I the only one that thought he was trying to throw the ball to the ref on his UC penalty?
I think that was his "excuse." I don't really believe it. But I suppose it could be true.
Agreed.
That was a limp wristed toss to the ref. Yes, it was a boneheaded move, but he doesn't have any passing attempts in college or the pros so I believe it was a lame toss at best. He pled his case to Reid and on the third play after the penalty he scores. Maybe that's why Reid is so successful he's been around and knows when a 25 year old is giving him a BS story. He has his players backs unlike Seattle's coach McDonald who punishes Walker for his penalty by sitting him for a number of plays after his boneheaded point & toss against the Cardinal's earlier this season.

Disclamer: Rice won the week for me! Currently 7-1 with Puka inserted in week 9. I played against a manager who waived him right after the draft. It was classic payback for them being wrapped up in the 6 game suspension and not realizing his value mid to end of season.
 
Am I the only one that thought he was trying to throw the ball to the ref on his UC penalty?
I think that was his "excuse." I don't really believe it. But I suppose it could be true.
Agreed.
That was a limp wristed toss to the ref. Yes, it was a boneheaded move, but he doesn't have any passing attempts in college or the pros so I believe it was a lame toss at best. He pled his case to Reid and on the third play after the penalty he scores. Maybe that's why Reid is so successful he's been around and knows when a 25 year old is giving him a BS story. He has his players backs unlike Seattle's coach McDonald who punishes Walker for his penalty by sitting him for a number of plays after his boneheaded point & toss against the Cardinal's earlier this season.

Disclamer: Rice won the week for me! Currently 7-1 with Puka inserted in week 9. I played against a manager who waived him right after the draft. It was classic payback for them being wrapped up in the 6 game suspension and not realizing his value mid to end of season.
The quality of the toss has nothing to do with any of it. He made a good play and wanted to show up his opponent.
 
Am I the only one that thought he was trying to throw the ball to the ref on his UC penalty?
I think that was his "excuse." I don't really believe it. But I suppose it could be true.
Agreed.
That was a limp wristed toss to the ref. Yes, it was a boneheaded move, but he doesn't have any passing attempts in college or the pros so I believe it was a lame toss at best. He pled his case to Reid and on the third play after the penalty he scores. Maybe that's why Reid is so successful he's been around and knows when a 25 year old is giving him a BS story. He has his players backs unlike Seattle's coach McDonald who punishes Walker for his penalty by sitting him for a number of plays after his boneheaded point & toss against the Cardinal's earlier this season.

Disclamer: Rice won the week for me! Currently 7-1 with Puka inserted in week 9. I played against a manager who waived him right after the draft. It was classic payback for them being wrapped up in the 6 game suspension and not realizing his value mid to end of season.
The quality of the toss has nothing to do with any of it. He made a good play and wanted to show up his opponent.
I'm a long term Skins fan which means my bias likely would see it the way you do. Just like politics you see it one way, which I respect, and I see it another. Ref penalized him/team and maybe the league will impose a $$ penalty. Either way I believe him when he stated how much he loves the game and is making amends.. Because of his major off field screwup he is under the microscope more so than many players. BTW ref's do have their own bias. It's human nature.
 
@smbkrypt24 (some bankruptcy??)
agree. I was watching the game and when they showed the replay, it seemed clear to me that he was being a dink.

BTW, I should reach out to him. I was at an airshow in VA beach in September and they had one of those "drive an exotic car as fast as you want" deals. I took the Lambo to 170 out on the tarmac. Highly recommend. I wish there had been a little more room, I was trying to get to 200 but the guy was like "brakes" way before I was done.

I smoked the GT3 and the vette pretty hard.
 
Am I the only one that thought he was trying to throw the ball to the ref on his UC penalty?
I think that was his "excuse." I don't really believe it. But I suppose it could be true.
Agreed.
That was a limp wristed toss to the ref. Yes, it was a boneheaded move, but he doesn't have any passing attempts in college or the pros so I believe it was a lame toss at best. He pled his case to Reid and on the third play after the penalty he scores. Maybe that's why Reid is so successful he's been around and knows when a 25 year old is giving him a BS story. He has his players backs unlike Seattle's coach McDonald who punishes Walker for his penalty by sitting him for a number of plays after his boneheaded point & toss against the Cardinal's earlier this season.

Disclamer: Rice won the week for me! Currently 7-1 with Puka inserted in week 9. I played against a manager who waived him right after the draft. It was classic payback for them being wrapped up in the 6 game suspension and not realizing his value mid to end of season.
The quality of the toss has nothing to do with any of it. He made a good play and wanted to show up his opponent.
I'm a long term Skins fan which means my bias likely would see it the way you do. Just like politics you see it one way, which I respect, and I see it another. Ref penalized him/team and maybe the league will impose a $$ penalty. Either way I believe him when he stated how much he loves the game and is making amends.. Because of his major off field screwup he is under the microscope more so than many players. BTW ref's do have their own bias. It's human nature.
I am unsure what that has to do with him throwing the ball at the defender? Because he loves the game so much it's all good? The discussion was over the fact that he tried to say he as tossing the ball the ref. I didn't see anyone question his love for the game.

I own Rice everywhere so I don't want to think he learned nothing. I don't associate this with the reckless driving and fleeing, but I think that is where you are going.
 
Yes, he threw the ball and it hit the defender. It was a very weak toss. I don't think there was some sly attempt to punk the defender. He didn't square his shoulders or get in the face of the defender he bent over to retrieve the ball to get it to the ref. He didn't appear to want a confrontation.

Ever play darts? His throw looked like when you throw a dart. Your elbow doesn't move much kinda like a lever. Your forearm and wrist dictate the velocity and accuracy of the toss. He was accurate and had he got it over the defender's head it would have landed close to the referee as he had his hand in the air and was moving directly in line with the defender.

The love of the game doesn't have anything to do with it being "all good". The love of the game is the reason he plays it and after screwing up big time I believe he has been humbled big time. Why would he want to continue to destroy a tarnished image that he is trying to repair?

The implication that I was trying to convey is not about Rice but the ref's and their bias or scrutiny towards players that get labeled on the wrong side of the ledger.
 
Yes, he threw the ball and it hit the defender. It was a very weak toss. I don't think there was some sly attempt to punk the defender. He didn't square his shoulders or get in the face of the defender he bent over to retrieve the ball to get it to the ref. He didn't appear to want a confrontation.

Ever play darts? His throw looked like when you throw a dart. Your elbow doesn't move much kinda like a lever. Your forearm and wrist dictate the velocity and accuracy of the toss. He was accurate and had he got it over the defender's head it would have landed close to the referee as he had his hand in the air and was moving directly in line with the defender.

The love of the game doesn't have anything to do with it being "all good". The love of the game is the reason he plays it and after screwing up big time I believe he has been humbled big time. Why would he want to continue to destroy a tarnished image that he is trying to repair?

The implication that I was trying to convey is not about Rice but the ref's and their bias or scrutiny towards players that get labeled on the wrong side of the ledger.
So to boil this down if it was a different player you don't believe a penalty would have been called?
 
Am I the only one that thought he was trying to throw the ball to the ref on his UC penalty?
I think that was his "excuse." I don't really believe it. But I suppose it could be true.
Agreed.
That was a limp wristed toss to the ref. Yes, it was a boneheaded move, but he doesn't have any passing attempts in college or the pros so I believe it was a lame toss at best. He pled his case to Reid and on the third play after the penalty he scores. Maybe that's why Reid is so successful he's been around and knows when a 25 year old is giving him a BS story. He has his players backs unlike Seattle's coach McDonald who punishes Walker for his penalty by sitting him for a number of plays after his boneheaded point & toss against the Cardinal's earlier this season.

Disclamer: Rice won the week for me! Currently 7-1 with Puka inserted in week 9. I played against a manager who waived him right after the draft. It was classic payback for them being wrapped up in the 6 game suspension and not realizing his value mid to end of season.
The quality of the toss has nothing to do with any of it. He made a good play and wanted to show up his opponent.
I'm a long term Skins fan which means my bias likely would see it the way you do. Just like politics you see it one way, which I respect, and I see it another. Ref penalized him/team and maybe the league will impose a $$ penalty. Either way I believe him when he stated how much he loves the game and is making amends.. Because of his major off field screwup he is under the microscope more so than many players. BTW ref's do have their own bias. It's human nature.
I am unsure what that has to do with him throwing the ball at the defender? Because he loves the game so much it's all good? The discussion was over the fact that he tried to say he as tossing the ball the ref. I didn't see anyone question his love for the game.

I own Rice everywhere so I don't want to think he learned nothing. I don't associate this with the reckless driving and fleeing, but I think that is where you are going.
If you've ever been behind the wheel of a machine like that you'd understand. That's what he's saying.

Not the taking off part, but the I feel alive part.
 
Am I the only one that thought he was trying to throw the ball to the ref on his UC penalty?
I think that was his "excuse." I don't really believe it. But I suppose it could be true.
Agreed.
That was a limp wristed toss to the ref. Yes, it was a boneheaded move, but he doesn't have any passing attempts in college or the pros so I believe it was a lame toss at best. He pled his case to Reid and on the third play after the penalty he scores. Maybe that's why Reid is so successful he's been around and knows when a 25 year old is giving him a BS story. He has his players backs unlike Seattle's coach McDonald who punishes Walker for his penalty by sitting him for a number of plays after his boneheaded point & toss against the Cardinal's earlier this season.

Disclamer: Rice won the week for me! Currently 7-1 with Puka inserted in week 9. I played against a manager who waived him right after the draft. It was classic payback for them being wrapped up in the 6 game suspension and not realizing his value mid to end of season.
The quality of the toss has nothing to do with any of it. He made a good play and wanted to show up his opponent.
I'm a long term Skins fan which means my bias likely would see it the way you do. Just like politics you see it one way, which I respect, and I see it another. Ref penalized him/team and maybe the league will impose a $$ penalty. Either way I believe him when he stated how much he loves the game and is making amends.. Because of his major off field screwup he is under the microscope more so than many players. BTW ref's do have their own bias. It's human nature.
I am unsure what that has to do with him throwing the ball at the defender? Because he loves the game so much it's all good? The discussion was over the fact that he tried to say he as tossing the ball the ref. I didn't see anyone question his love for the game.

I own Rice everywhere so I don't want to think he learned nothing. I don't associate this with the reckless driving and fleeing, but I think that is where you are going.
If you've ever been behind the wheel of a machine like that you'd understand. That's what he's saying.

Not the taking off part, but the I feel alive part.
I must have missed that completely. I don't see any of that in any of his words.
 
Yes, he threw the ball and it hit the defender. It was a very weak toss. I don't think there was some sly attempt to punk the defender. He didn't square his shoulders or get in the face of the defender he bent over to retrieve the ball to get it to the ref. He didn't appear to want a confrontation.

Ever play darts? His throw looked like when you throw a dart. Your elbow doesn't move much kinda like a lever. Your forearm and wrist dictate the velocity and accuracy of the toss. He was accurate and had he got it over the defender's head it would have landed close to the referee as he had his hand in the air and was moving directly in line with the defender.

The love of the game doesn't have anything to do with it being "all good". The love of the game is the reason he plays it and after screwing up big time I believe he has been humbled big time. Why would he want to continue to destroy a tarnished image that he is trying to repair?

The implication that I was trying to convey is not about Rice but the ref's and their bias or scrutiny towards players that get labeled on the wrong side of the ledger.
So to boil this down if it was a different player you don't believe a penalty would have been called?
Correct! Had it been another Rice like Jerry or a Larry Fitzgerald I think the benefit of doubt regarding intent the flag would not have come out. Again, actions right after the ball hit the helmet indicate to me that he wasn't trying to hit the defender. The ref was on the other side of the incident. He saw the ball bounce down to the ground. None of us know what he heard or if he looked into the eyes of Rice and saw a "taunting expression".

The ref made the call. It is what it is. Let's see if he gets fined or contests his actions. There is a lot of egregious crap that goes on in the NFL that doesn't get called.
 
Yes, he threw the ball and it hit the defender. It was a very weak toss. I don't think there was some sly attempt to punk the defender. He didn't square his shoulders or get in the face of the defender he bent over to retrieve the ball to get it to the ref. He didn't appear to want a confrontation.

Ever play darts? His throw looked like when you throw a dart. Your elbow doesn't move much kinda like a lever. Your forearm and wrist dictate the velocity and accuracy of the toss. He was accurate and had he got it over the defender's head it would have landed close to the referee as he had his hand in the air and was moving directly in line with the defender.

The love of the game doesn't have anything to do with it being "all good". The love of the game is the reason he plays it and after screwing up big time I believe he has been humbled big time. Why would he want to continue to destroy a tarnished image that he is trying to repair?

The implication that I was trying to convey is not about Rice but the ref's and their bias or scrutiny towards players that get labeled on the wrong side of the ledger.
So to boil this down if it was a different player you don't believe a penalty would have been called?
Correct! Had it been another Rice like Jerry or a Larry Fitzgerald I think the benefit of doubt regarding intent the flag would not have come out. Again, actions right after the ball hit the helmet indicate to me that he wasn't trying to hit the defender. The ref was on the other side of the incident. He saw the ball bounce down to the ground. None of us know what he heard or if he looked into the eyes of Rice and saw a "taunting expression".

The ref made the call. It is what it is. Let's see if he gets fined or contests his actions. There is a lot of egregious crap that goes on in the NFL that doesn't get called.
That is where I call the complete BS. That to me as all an act.

It has nothing to do with Rice as a player. It has everything to do with seeing this over and over where players are unable to control themselves as showboats and decide to take that action.

ETA: I believe I understand why you are discussing the type of throw now though because of the path it would take to the ref.

ETA #2: The one that makes me even consider anything would be Marvin Harrison ( I am a Colts fan). So if he did this would they throw a flag...since he earned the reputation (as a player) as handing the ball to the refs and no showboating. I still think if he did this it would be 50/50 because the ball still ended up hitting the defender in the head.
 
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Yes, he threw the ball and it hit the defender. It was a very weak toss. I don't think there was some sly attempt to punk the defender. He didn't square his shoulders or get in the face of the defender he bent over to retrieve the ball to get it to the ref. He didn't appear to want a confrontation.

Ever play darts? His throw looked like when you throw a dart. Your elbow doesn't move much kinda like a lever. Your forearm and wrist dictate the velocity and accuracy of the toss. He was accurate and had he got it over the defender's head it would have landed close to the referee as he had his hand in the air and was moving directly in line with the defender.

The love of the game doesn't have anything to do with it being "all good". The love of the game is the reason he plays it and after screwing up big time I believe he has been humbled big time. Why would he want to continue to destroy a tarnished image that he is trying to repair?

The implication that I was trying to convey is not about Rice but the ref's and their bias or scrutiny towards players that get labeled on the wrong side of the ledger.
So to boil this down if it was a different player you don't believe a penalty would have been called?
Correct! Had it been another Rice like Jerry or a Larry Fitzgerald I think the benefit of doubt regarding intent the flag would not have come out. Again, actions right after the ball hit the helmet indicate to me that he wasn't trying to hit the defender. The ref was on the other side of the incident. He saw the ball bounce down to the ground. None of us know what he heard or if he looked into the eyes of Rice and saw a "taunting expression".

The ref made the call. It is what it is. Let's see if he gets fined or contests his actions. There is a lot of egregious crap that goes on in the NFL that doesn't get called.
That is where I call the complete BS. That to me as all an act.

It has nothing to do with Rice as a player. It has everything to do with seeing this over and over where players are unable to control themselves as showboats and decide to take that action.

ETA: I believe I understand why you are discussing the type of throw now though because of the path it would take to the ref.
All is good.

I have known a few players over the years. The ones I've had the chance to get to know are generally good guys. Guess I'm giving him the glass half full treatment and hoping he falls in the same camp. I've listened to a few of his interviews. He comes across as thoughtful and a decent communicator. Hopefully he isn't just acting for the camera.

He does have self control issues. I still would like to believe this incident isn't one of them. Time will tell with his actions.

>>Skins fan here. Art Monk was exactly the same just hand the ball to the ref. The respect for the game was different back in the day. Today with the $$$$ involved has changed some of the players perception on their responsibility to the game.
 
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