DocHolliday
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Pretty much sums it up.Dr. Octopus said:If I felt more confident about Haskins I would see McLaurin as a top 10 WR. He combines route running and pure speed like very few WRs we've seen.
Pretty much sums it up.Dr. Octopus said:If I felt more confident about Haskins I would see McLaurin as a top 10 WR. He combines route running and pure speed like very few WRs we've seen.
https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1297533740466556929?s=21John Keim @john_keim
Yes, Dwayne Haskins still finds Terry McLaurin a lot. Understandable: chemistry and... he creates separation. QBs can trusts where he'll be and when. Haskins fired a bullet to him in 7-7. Have been a couple times in 1-1 where Darby able to recover/break up.
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Totally agree with this. But a lot hinges on Haskins. It was so painful last year to see McLaurin wide open, only to have that route wasted by Haskins’ ineptitude.He is going to get 150 targets. If Haskins takes a step forward he will catch 100 balls this year or next. He is the next superstar.
I agree with this take. I am keeping McLaurin in my keeper (I can keep him in the 10th of a 14-teamer), but I doubt I will get him in any other leagues at his current ADP. Love the talent, but not sure what his upside is if Haskins looks as bad as he did last year.Keep running into the same decision in round 4 -- McClaurin vs. Metcalf vs. Chark.
McLaurin seems like the higher floor/lower ceiling option. Has the talent, but that offense and Haskins limit potential.
Metcalf is boom/bust. I suppose if you've anchored your WR corp with a true #1 this is a great pick. Metcalf's ceiling in the Seattle offense is huge.
Chalk solid, but Jax could be a total trainwreck. Maybe lower floor and ceiling vs. McLaurin.
I guess if you're sold on the Washington offense taking a big step forward McLaurin is a great pick in round 4-5. I'm not there yet. I'd like to be.
He played 7 games with Haskins as QB last year.I agree with this take. I am keeping McLaurin in my keeper (I can keep him in the 10th of a 14-teamer), but I doubt I will get him in any other leagues at his current ADP. Love the talent, but not sure what his upside is if Haskins looks as bad as he did last year.
Yes to both of these statements.So he seems a reach in the middle of the 4th. I would always take Sutton and Ridley ahead of him.
In the fifth he seems fairly priced.
I actually think Chark has the highest ceiling of the 3. Jags are likely to throw the ball more than Seattle, there is less target competition and he has already shown he can play like a true WR1. Remember he hurt his ankle late last year. He was expected to miss the rest of the year but ended up playing after only missing one week. I don't think he was healthy at all those final 2 games. He was just gutting it out. His 16 game pace before the ankle injury was 82/1100/10. If Minshew can improve a little as a second year player and the pass rates increase due to an even worse defense, I think Chark could have Mike Evans like production.Keep running into the same decision in round 4 -- McClaurin vs. Metcalf vs. Chark.
McLaurin seems like the higher floor/lower ceiling option. Has the talent, but that offense and Haskins limit potential.
Metcalf is boom/bust. I suppose if you've anchored your WR corp with a true #1 this is a great pick. Metcalf's ceiling in the Seattle offense is huge.
Chalk solid, but Jax could be a total trainwreck. Maybe lower floor and ceiling vs. McLaurin.
I guess if you're sold on the Washington offense taking a big step forward McLaurin is a great pick in round 4-5. I'm not there yet. I'd like to be.
I love all those names in that area and can't really hedge (in my head) who I like more. I'm trying to get as much of Chark, McLaurin and Metcalf as I can. Been taking two of them at the 4/5 turn a lot. I have no issue whatsoever on who anyone prefers from this group. Sutton and a couple others in that range as well. I think I like McLaurin's ceiling the most based purely on target volume. But clearly the worst QB situation. Metcalf is in the best offense of the 3, but the most run heavy. So you may very well be right about Chark.I actually think Chark has the highest ceiling of the 3. Jags are likely to throw the ball more than Seattle, there is less target competition and he has already shown he can play like a true WR1. Remember he hurt his ankle late last year. He was expected to miss the rest of the year but ended up playing after only missing one week. I don't think he was healthy at all those final 2 games. He was just gutting it out. His 16 game pace before the ankle injury was 82/1100/10. If Minshew can improve a little as a second year player and the pass rates increase due to an even worse defense, I think Chark could have Mike Evans like production.
I agree with those names and would include Gallup, Keenan Allen and Robert Woods in that mix. The late 4th-early 5th is indeed rich with good WRs. In my draft yesterday, the last 4 picks of round 4 were Sutton, Metcalf, Dak and Chark. Then the 5th round went McClaurin, Gallup, Waller, Woods, Keenan.I love all those names in that area and can't really hedge (in my head) who I like more. I'm trying to get as much of Chark, McLaurin and Metcalf as I can. Been taking two of them at the 4/5 turn a lot. I have no issue whatsoever on who anyone prefers from this group. Sutton and a couple others in that range as well. I think I like McLaurin's ceiling the most based purely on target volume. But clearly the worst QB situation. Metcalf is in the best offense of the 3, but the most run heavy. So you may very well be right about Chark.
All of these names including McLaurin are the reasons why I don't care if I grab a WR in the first three rounds. So much WR depth.I agree with those names and would include Gallup, Keenan Allen and Robert Woods in that mix. The late 4th-early 5th is indeed rich with good WRs. In my draft yesterday, the last 4 picks of round 4 were Sutton, Metcalf, Dak and Chark. Then the 5th round went McClaurin, Gallup, Waller, Woods, Keenan.
It kind of depends where you draft. I seem to see the people drafting from the 1-3 slot often double dipping on that group at the 4/5 turn which means a lot of drafters aren't going to be able to take advantage of that tier.All of these names including McLaurin are the reasons why I don't care if I grab a WR in the first three rounds. So much WR depth.
I mean, you could also have a couple of those names as your WR2 & WR3 & WR4/FLEX after taking a really awesome 2nd rounder tho.All of these names including McLaurin are the reasons why I don't care if I grab a WR in the first three rounds. So much WR depth.
Yep. For me unless it is Thomas, Adams, Julio or Godwin I'm waiting until this range. Which opens up the chance to go TE early. *dodges shoe flying*All of these names including McLaurin are the reasons why I don't care if I grab a WR in the first three rounds. So much WR
Exactly what I'm doing (theoretically) with pick #5. RB, then Kittle or Kelce, then another RB. Then there are just a ton of guys in rounds 4-6 that can hold down the fort at WR.Yep. For me unless it is Thomas, Adams, Julio or Godwin I'm waiting until this range. Which opens up the chance to go TE early. *dodges shoe flying*
Lucky for you, I’m self employed & shoes are expensive.Yep. For me unless it is Thomas, Adams, Julio or Godwin I'm waiting until this range. Which opens up the chance to go TE early. *dodges shoe flying*
I like him, but my money is on DK Metcalf.He is going to get 150 targets. If Haskins takes a step forward he will catch 100 balls this year or next. He is the next superstar.
Heehee.Lucky for you, I’m self employed & shoes are expensive.![]()
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that aside, aren’t there a couple of WRs in the 2nd or 3rd you feel could leapfrog those “known quantities”?
personally I think Mike Evans may be the Buc to Target & Godwin ends up lower tier.
Feels like a Moore or Golladay could ascend to top 5 as well. Heck, a top 5 season by Juju with Big Ben back wouldn’t surprise me either.
Just sayin...there’s value in them thar rounds.
I'm taking him everywhere and wouldn't be upset if you're right. Love him.I like him, but my money is on DK Metcalf.
you think he’s going to get traded to the raiders & lose his mind?i think he is the next Antonio Brown.
he lost his mind way before thatyou think he’s going to get traded to the raiders & lose his mind?![]()
The Cooks and Hiltons are going late in my experience. Lockett about where he should. Robinson goes eighth overall for WR in ADP, I drafted him in the fourth today in a Superflex and was thrilled. But this is the McLaurin thread.Heehee.
Not much, no. I have Juju at the top of my list in the mid 3rd so he is definitely on my short list. No matter where I draft from I can't seem to find the sweet spot for either Godwin or Evans even though I love both of them and absolutely think they could finish top 5. They just never seem to be there when I want them. But I think McLaurin, Juju, Metcalf, Chark, Sutton, Marquise, and later Slayton, Unicorn, Kirk, Diontae can all finish as WR1s or right on the fringe. No doubt I will be wrong about a couple but this is the sweet spot for WRs in almost *any* build. I think there is a ####### rash of hot garbage (for fantasy) among the *other* WRs in that 2nd-8th range, and one of the things I love about those TE/QB early drafts is that I get to watch *so many* guys I hate get drafted while my guys fall. *now Imma look out for wrenches*
That said I'll take Michael Thomas over Kamara, Zeke, Cook and the rest of them not named Barkley or CMC in the 1st. And when I have a late draft slot I almost universally go WR/WR.
Sorry just realized I'm in the Terry thread. But yeah I've got him as locked for a top 10 finish. I think he is the next Antonio Brown. I feel similarly about most of those other names. I think this is one of those "changing of the guard" kind of years. Except for guys like Thomas, Julio, Adams, Nuk, and at least one of Evans/Godwin. But I think the Cooks, Hiltons, Lockets of the world are going to be overdrafted.
who faded Evans? I said I had him over Godwin.I would not fade Evans like the above poster. Brady has already taken to him in the red zone in camp from what I hear and Twitter. So... anytime Brady has a big guy and can get rid of it quickly, he's gonna do that. That's how he is. TD bonanza! I still picked Godwin with the 22nd pick over Evans though, just cause I dig him the most.
Ah - missed that. I see it now. i’m with you - Brady has been talking up Evans for one, and there was a nice write-up about how Evans efficiency > Godwin’s and how that plays to Brady’s strengths. I suspect they’ll be 1a and 1b, but the gap could be the difference between a WR1 & a WR 2 for FF purposes.kyoun1e did
Yeah, it could. I went with draft publication and consensus vs. gut. I think my gut is right. I don't know, I play for fun. I love watching Godwin operate, so it'll just keep me more in tune. Plus, I have him on my dynasty team, too, so it gives me a chance to cringe when Evans is on pace for his twelfth TD of the season or something ridiculous like that. Just like I have Terry in dynasty, too, and hope that Haskins fits the bill of much improved this year. A lot of Terry's routes are going to come down to how the defense plays Haskins and whether he can hit deep outs and timing patterns. That said, did anyone mention they played at Ohio State together?Ah - missed that. I see it now. i’m with you - Brady has been talking up Evans for one, and there was a nice write-up about how Evans efficiency > Godwin’s and how that plays to Brady’s strengths. I suspect they’ll be 1a and 1b, but the gap could be the difference between a WR1 & a WR 2 for FF purposes.
Not today, no. A zillion times before today, but not today.That said, did anyone mention they played at Ohio State together?![]()
Wait, what?That said, did anyone mention they played at Ohio State together?![]()
2) Terry McLaurin will clear 1,100 yards
If you’re familiar with my work, you know I’m bullish on Terry McLaurin’s talent and ability to become a super-star level receiver. Let’s just cast that aside for a moment. From a pure statistical angle, McLaurin is a good bet for this mark.
If you just take his rate stats from games with Dwayne Haskins starting, McLaurin averaged 4.2 catches and 65.9 yards per game, maintained a 63.8 percent catch rate, and posted 15.4 yards per catch. Over the course of a full season that would be 68 grabs for 1,053 yards. He maintained a 23 percent target share in those seven games with Haskins starting.
So all we’re asking for is a yardage increase of less than 50. Such an ask doesn’t even include the fact that we ought to be projecting a passing increase for Washington in 2020, considering their new offensive coordinator Scott Turner called passing plays at a 64.7 percent rate in neutral game scripts last year. It also doesn’t account for any potential improvement in Haskins, the type of development he showed as the year went on (even if some outright refuse to admit it). Nor does it account for McLaurin taking another leap forward, which feels like a lock, or garnering a target share north of 23 percent. The latter is also on the table given the state of Washington’s pass-catching corps.
Honestly, this isn’t bold at all.
Terry McLaurin caught 5-of-7 targets for 61 yards in Washington's Week 1 win against the Eagles.
McLaurin was quiet in this one, shadowed by Darius Slay for much of the contest. He led the team in receiving yards and receptions. The Football Team took its foot off the gas once they grabbed the lead, limiting McLaurin's second half opportunities. He should get peppered with targets in more pass-friendly game scripts. That could come in Week 2 when Washington plays Arizona.
- Rotoworld
He’s still a very good WR.Meh today. Waiting on everything to come around.
Tough draw against Slay...not terrible on the stat line. Better games will come.Meh today. Waiting on everything to come around.
Yep. That's why I qualified the "Meh" with "today."He’s still a very good WR.
Terry McLaurin caught 7-of-10 targets for 125 yards and a touchdown in Washington's Week 2 loss to the Cardinals.
McLaurin couldn't be stopped in the second half, beating double teams and zipping past defenders with the ball in his hands. If not for a couple errant throws from Dwayne Haskins, McLaurin could've had a monster day against Arizona. He's a must-start next week against Cleveland.
Sep 20, 2020, 9:08 PM ET
Yep. Now if Haskins could figure out how to play in the first half of games.So silky smooth out there. He seems to create separation effortlessly.
Hes a top ten wr. Imagine if he had a qbI sat him this week and it cost me a win. I guess it doesn't matter how bad Haskins looks, McLaurin seems to be a must start.
Well his first second and third read should always be scary terryNice day this weekend. I watched the game. You really need all-22 to tell you what you need to know about a receiver and getting open, but he looked pretty constantly open. One caveat: Most of his yards and score came when the game was pretty much in hand for Arizona and they were probably playing back off of him and not press coverage to ensure they didn't get beat deep.
Next week: Cleveland. Killer defensive line, not much in the back seven. Depends on whether or not Haskins has time to throw and if he gets through his progressions quickly enough.
https://twitter.com/jagibbs_23/status/1309541515711205377?s=21Jacob Gibbs @jagibbs_23
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https://twitter.com/marykaycabot/status/1309540760199593986?s=21Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot
Updated #Browns injury report for #Washington: CB Denzel Ward (groin) questionable and CB Greedy Williams (shoulder) ruled out; DE Olivier Vernon (abdomen) ruled out, but DE Adrian Clayborn (hip) returns today and is questionable