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WR Tyler Lockett, LV (1 Viewer)
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tombonneau
Footballguy
Don't worry. We all were gonna take a shot on Graham until we didn't. But have no fear. In three weeks when he tweaks his ankle we'll be able to puff our chests back out again and say, "See!"
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I guess I'm on an island, but I expect him to take off.
Lockett was just dropped and I'm eying him.
Have a feeling post bye, with Wilson healthier, Graham rolling, this offense as a whole starts doing what it did 2nd half last year.
And Lockett benefits.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Get him now before it's too late.
shadyridr
Footballguy
That was your argument
I love how you listed season long stats for one, and a different criteria for the other.
He was just providing you the numbers in the games both were healthy.
Milkman
Footballguy
Huge Lockett fan here. He's a top 15ish WR talent in the league imo. Unfortunately he is stuck in an offense that doesn't throw enough for him to be more than a WR3 with Graham and Baldwin playing so well. His time is coming and he should eventually overtake Baldwin and be the #1 WR on this team but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen this year.
If Graham or Baldwin get hurt though look out.
If Graham or Baldwin get hurt though look out.
I don't need him to be a #1 WR. I just need a FLEX with upside.
This guy shouldn't be on waivers.
mr roboto
Footballguy
I'm a huge Locket fan in dyno, drafted him a few years ago, but why shouldn't he be on waivers in shorter bench redrafts?
Last 3 games, 4, 0, 3 targets. Tough to feel confident in him with that opportunity
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I agree with this.mr roboto said:
If you have short benches you can't really afford a guy like Lockett. We are just getting into bye weeks and you can't tell me you feel confident starting him over guys off the WW like Sammie Coates?
Lockett belongs on most WW unless you have long benches or in dynasty. He is a good 3 weeks away from getting back into true form if he is going to. I disagree with what someone said earlier in here, that he is a bust. The guy has huge talent. He is playing hurt right now and his % snaps have been way down. Not to mention Seattle has looked terrible. Those trends won't last forever.
If he's on your WW he deserves to be on your watch list at least. He's on mine. Planning on scooping him up after my defense finishes it's bye. If he's still there.
packersfan
Footballguy
This was my situation. Just couldn't afford to keep him due to my league's roster setup. I love this guy and I still believe in him if he can get healthy. But due to the way my league is set up I couldn't afford to hang onto him. But should my roster change at all due to an injury and if he gets healthy I'm definitely gonna look to pick him back up. I think he's an extremely talented player and it's one of the reasons I'm hoarding my FAAB.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I haven't done much research into it but is it possible for him to have recovered from the torn PCL by now? He was on my WW in one league and I dropped my kicker to see if he's practicing in full this week.
Weeks 2-4 need to be completely discounted IMO where he was playing on like 30% of the snaps and seeing 3 targets a game. Week one where he playing on 76% of the snaps and saw 8 targets is likely going to be what you can expect when he's healthy.
Weeks 2-4 need to be completely discounted IMO where he was playing on like 30% of the snaps and seeing 3 targets a game. Week one where he playing on 76% of the snaps and saw 8 targets is likely going to be what you can expect when he's healthy.
Milkman
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I drafted him fairly early in a re-draft and had to dump him in a short bench. Should I be adding him? We get 1pt per 25 KR/PR yards does he do both?
We start QRWTFFKD with 4 bench, I normally go 1RB (Ingram) 3WR's (OBJ,Dez,Cobb) Bench (Gio, Fuller, John Brown, Eifert)
Eifert has been weighing down my roster can't trade him for anything. (I have Graham who cleared by)
Moncrief, Coleman and Lockett all available.
We start QRWTFFKD with 4 bench, I normally go 1RB (Ingram) 3WR's (OBJ,Dez,Cobb) Bench (Gio, Fuller, John Brown, Eifert)
Eifert has been weighing down my roster can't trade him for anything. (I have Graham who cleared by)
Moncrief, Coleman and Lockett all available.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm considering adding him this week as well. I am going to see how Booker does tonight. This is the real test for Booker IMO. Otherwise I have Bortles to drop. I don't really need the WR help to be honest but if Lockett turns into what I think he can turn into that'd be great to have as a flex/bye option.
EDIT: Added... my opponent is desperate for WR help this week so I can't really justify holding 2 QBs when I only need 1 for now. I would hate to see him go nuts and look like the Lockett we were hoping for, meanwhile I was just dragging my butt keeping my backup QB on my roster
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Wish I had the room. At this point I might sell Eifert for a DST and then drop my DST (Bengals for him)
Problem is nobody wants Eifert till they know he's healthy.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
at the very least we see how he is used when fully healthy. No excuses now
skol asylum
Footballguy
Picked up Lockett right before kickoff and dropped CoCo for now in case he has a big game.
heckmanm
Footballguy
I know it's only been a couple games that he's been back and healthy, but are people still high on Lockett from a dynasty perspective? I see him ranked around WR30-35 across several sites.
ETA - considering trading for him in a contract league. I'd have him for 2-3 years beyond 2016.
ETA - considering trading for him in a contract league. I'd have him for 2-3 years beyond 2016.
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voiceofunreason
Footballguy
30 to 35 is fine, maybe a bit low but some people had him at about wr15 in the summer which was crazy. From a redraft standpoint he should be on waivers. Doesn't look like anything is going to change soon.
Hooper31
Footballguy
Tough call. The reality is that being anything other than the #1 or #2 option in the Seattle passing game is equivalent to worthless in fantasy scoring. Right now that's Baldwin and Graham. Unless you see Baldwin falling by the wayside I would have to currently vote no. Talented? Yes. Opportunity? No.
heckmanm
Footballguy
Hooper31
Footballguy
I've said it in a few threads, but its worth repeating. Last year when Graham went down I just knew the Seattle offense would do better, and they did. This year if Graham went down it would be a disaster. They need him. They're leaning on him. Graham and Wilson have bonded.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He was my only real miss this season. I really thought he was going to continue the momentum they built on last year - take it to the next level.
It seemed to be a combination of Wilson being gimpy and Locket having the knee injury.
Locket seemed to be targeted most last year while Russell extended plays with his legs. With Wilson unable to extend plays that didn't help Lockett. Add a sprained knee that hampered him for 4-5 weeks and it allowed Graham to step up and vacuum up a lot of targets.
The seahawks offense barely resembled last couple seasons....they've struggled to run without Lynch (or specifically with Michael) and for much of the season Wilson has been less mobile.
Honestly have none idea what to expect for 2017....Lockett seems like the kind of guy who has an outside chance at a bounce back - he'll likely be on my scout team early next year. I wouldn't draft him though.
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Milkman
Footballguy
Graham's emergence coupled with Seattle's struggles offensively have killed Lockett this year. He's a hold in dynasty but honestly he might not pay off next year either. I think of him as one of the best WR handcuffs in the league though. If Baldwin ever went down Lockett would be a high end WR2 with upside immediately and he's most certainly not a flash in the pan. He's a great WR.....the targets just aren't there......
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Totally agree with this. Even if Graham went down. He's every bit as good as he looked last year, but the opportunity hasn't been there.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm in a agreement here. what a disappointment he's been from a production standpoint. but why are we surprised... Seattle wrs haven't been relied on in years past
Hooper31
Footballguy
I was of mind that Lockett had a chance to pass Baldwin up this season, but I'm way past that now. I don't see it happening at any point. Now or in future seasons. I say this knowing that at some point Lockett will be healthy again. I don't think it will make a difference. I still believe in Lockett's talent, but just don't see him ever out-targeting Baldwin (or Graham for that matter).
Interseptopus
Footballguy
a bit early but maybe Lockett jumps ship after his rookie year. he's the kind of talent NE would use effectively
spider321
Footballguy
1) He's not a rookie.
2) Obligatory EVERY, SINGLE player EVAR should go to New England post.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I meant rookie contract
and I mention NE because they use guys like edelman, welker, etc and have turned them into stars. I can't really think of any other team that uses quick possession wrs to their full extent
no need to be a tool about it
spider321
Footballguy
I know why you mentioned NE. Unfortunately, everyone says, "OMG! He'd be great in NE!!!" every time they talk about the possibility of anyone leaving their current team.
no need to be a tool about it
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I didn't see where I was being a tool... I was explaining myself quite legitimately actually. but cool. Merry Christmas
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
It's been an injury problem this year. I don't think he's a #1 but IMO he's a great #2 IRL and fantasy receiver when he's right.
Milkman
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
Gets the Packers next week. Dream matchup if you're willing to take a shot. The Seahawks would be fools not to take a deep shot or two for Lockett in that game. Packers can't cover anybody downfield. I don't see how they defend someone like Lockett.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Sunday may be another snowy event in Green Bay. This would favor GB heavily. The footing in the last game went away so fast. If you can neutralize Wilson and force him to be a QB, that's out of his element to some degree.Yeah Russell Wilson a tad bit better than Osweiler
I'm more nervous about the Packers stopping Graham. I think they will match up quite nicely vs their WRs to be honest. Packers can't cover big TEs. Just look at the TEN game... and yesterday even. TEs have their way with our LBs and secondary.
packersfan
Footballguy
Lockett will be a boom or bust WR4. I'm not saying you should start with any level of confidence. Just saying his deep speed plays right into the Packers' No. 1 defensive weakness. Their secondary is pathetic and they struggle greatly against vertical passing threats. Go back to the Washington game and recall how their WRs spent the entire game running wide-### open all over the place. I certainly don't know what the Seahawks will do but if they're smart they will dial up a few deep shots to Lockett. That's what I would definitely do. I don't think the Packers will be able to cover him effectively.
