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WR Tyquan Thornton, KC (1 Viewer)
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
LOL. Thornton looked like a first team All Pro every minicamp in NE. He looks great in shorts. Then when pads come on he disappears. He was usually tabbed as a potential WR1 for the Pats and did pretty much nothing when the actual games started.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Do we have an idea how long worthy will be out?
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
3-6 weeks or the year depending on surgery or not ..
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Link?
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Pure speculation on the type of injury and dislocation. If the labrum is torn and completely out of socket then surgery and rehab for 4-6 months ending his season but if everything is intact then 4-6 weeks with rest and rehab to strengthen the shoulder.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Was curious because you put zero chance he could return in 1-2 weeks. KC doesn't play again for 10 days.
@NFLPlus
Tyquan Thornton adjusts and makes the catch!
This pass had just a 15.7% completion probability, per @NextGenStats
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ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
He definitely looks like the guy to own in KC. How long that lasts is anyone’s guess.
Marauder
Footballguy
Probably another three weeks would be my guess.
rockaction
Footballguy
I'll tell you what, man. I don't think anybody coming back or getting healthy takes his role. He's looked good as the deep threat and field stretcher. Rashee ain't taking those routes away and I can nearly guarantee you that. Worthy looks hurt and only connected deep in the Super Bowl. Frankly, it really depends how much a guy listed at 165 lbs. (pro football reference) can both tolerate the rigors of the NFL and also not get injured any worse than he is now.
This guy, to me, became a priority add but be wary and know that he is boom/bust.
eta* I do wonder what they’ll do with Hollywood Brown. Maybe Thornton cedes to him? Dunno. Perhaps. Lot of moving parts. Caveat emptor.
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Footballdaz
Footballguy
When Rice and Worthy both healthy playing in couple weeks, Thornton becomes a bench stash only.
rockaction
Footballguy
Rice runs much different routes than Thornton does, and I'm not sure we can assume that Worthy is healthy in a couple of weeks. FBG suggests bidding 12-25% of your budget and says his outlook is "up reasonably." I do not know, if Worthy stays healthy, whether he takes Tyquan's targets or if Hollywood Brown might take those targets. I'm not in Andy Reid's head. But I can say that Thornton has looked like the only viable guy Mahomes can throw to and that Rice will not be running the same routes when he comes back.
Proteus
Footballguy
Can't spell windows without win.
Sometimes that's the best we can do when our WR corps is a ball of bandaids.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Mahomes looks like he trusts him. He’s getting a few of his patented 50/50 YOLO balls a game now.
rockaction
Footballguy
He got at least two that traveled fifty air yards by my count on Sunday night. I mean, Patty just chucked them right up into blanketed single coverage. Tyquan won both. One was incomplete in the end. So I overbid for him. I don't care. I was slow drafting while I traveled from San Francisco to Los Angeles and then I got sick for a day and a half. I wound up with Stefon Diggs way, way too early and then I also had Khalil Shakir. Both are pretty much useless if you want to win a title. I bid 31 out of my 100 FAAB for Tyquan. I'd already spent 4 and then 1 for a D/ST this week and now I've got 64 left. Okay. I can live with it. Let's go, Tyquan! I put my quid where my mouth was.
I think he's earned the deep shot role for good. Rice > JuJu's snaps, Worthy > Brown's snaps, Thornton retaining his role and we might see an explosive offense if play calling permits.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
I have to start this guy since Evans is out. So I'm holding for now but could definitely understand dropping. Thornton's role has to take a hit with Worthy back.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Just my own opinion but feel like Thornton has earned his role and is going to stick as the best deep threat WR. Guess we'll see.
worthy is lucky to make it to the half before re-injuring that shoulder…risk of reinjury is incredibly high
rockaction
Footballguy
It’s strange. There are a lot of authoritative comments about this guy and his role by people, who, if i may say something and I scrap a lot but I usually don’t say something like this, don’t seem to know **** from shinola.
This does not mean he’s definitely going to keep his route share and score fantasy points but I’ve seen very few people (there have been some) understand basic **** about KC and who will likely run certain types of routes.
I can’t guarantee a thing so I won’t push it, but there are a whole host of people who don’t know the first thing and should let uncertainty be their default position.
So weird to see it.
That's a lot of words and I have no clue what you're saying
Drake Hater
Footballguy
The coaches aren't posting here and they're the only ones that know for sure. So we're all just discussing range of outcomes in every thread. I would think most forum members understand this and don't take individual opinions as certainties.
rockaction
Footballguy
No doubt. I’m talking about pundits and industry guys. I wouldn’t get on anyone here about doing that.
rockaction
Footballguy
Paid blowhards within the fantasy football Industry clearly don’t know **** but keep talking like they do
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Ha, well I've definitely taken my share of bad advice from the analysts.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Outside of Rice and Worthy, trying to pick which Chiefs or which Packers wr to play is an evil I wish on no man.
rockaction
Footballguy
Shady, I have a scrip to Reception Perception. I just checked and I (not because I'm good but because Matt Harmon is good and has charted everything) would say I know 5 times more than these pundits, but that would be false because anything multiplied by the absolute zero that most of them know and you, of course, wind up with zero.
Do you guys do this? I mean, we've all been wrong and stupidly wrong, but something about telling people "what's really going on and going to happen" when you know jack is just something I don't know it I could do. If I thought I was right and just ignorant, then that's one thing for sure. But this isn't that.
rockaction
Footballguy
So have I. The only reason I know that this is wildly different and these guys are just so, so wrong is because of a different pundit who actually charts these guys and can say stuff with not necessarily a certainty, but at least an inkling, you know?
rockaction
Footballguy
Anyway, it's fascinating. Tyquan is running a ton of deep rotues. He's a deep threat. You know what Rashee runs? In 2024, over his three-game sample before the injury, he ran 6.6% of his routes deep downfield. He ain't kicking Tyquan off the field so long as Andy Reid wants somebody stretching the field. Rashee ran 64% (!) of his routes at or near the line of scrimmage. That's ludicrous.
Worthy is a bit different. He also ran a whopping 45% of his routes at or near the LOS. But he also ran 37% of his routes deep. That leaves him with a paltry 18% intermediate route rate. It's crazy.
Hollywood Brown is another dude the Chiefs have. None, and I mean, none of these guys can beat man coverage with regularity. People are tossing on Mahomes and I was too because I watch him all the time due to rostering him in dynasty. But these guys are never open if you press or play man. It's sick what KC gave Patrick. Malpractice. Anyway, Hollywood runs intermediate routes at a 30% rate, deep routes to the tune of 35% and he's around the LOS at about 36% or so. So pretty evenly divided.
And so you can see that Rice and Thornton will just not overlap. They won't.
Worthy probably would
Hollywood probably would also.
So we really wait and see. I'm pretty convinced Tyquan has beaten out Hollywood unless they're all just blowing smoke for the press.
Worthy is a bit different. He also ran a whopping 45% of his routes at or near the LOS. But he also ran 37% of his routes deep. That leaves him with a paltry 18% intermediate route rate. It's crazy.
Hollywood Brown is another dude the Chiefs have. None, and I mean, none of these guys can beat man coverage with regularity. People are tossing on Mahomes and I was too because I watch him all the time due to rostering him in dynasty. But these guys are never open if you press or play man. It's sick what KC gave Patrick. Malpractice. Anyway, Hollywood runs intermediate routes at a 30% rate, deep routes to the tune of 35% and he's around the LOS at about 36% or so. So pretty evenly divided.
And so you can see that Rice and Thornton will just not overlap. They won't.
Worthy probably would
Hollywood probably would also.
So we really wait and see. I'm pretty convinced Tyquan has beaten out Hollywood unless they're all just blowing smoke for the press.
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heckmanm
Footballguy
Footballdaz
Footballguy
I'd go Thornton. Higher upside if he does stick to his role.. We already know what Doubts offers.
rockaction
Footballguy
I'd go Thornton. Higher upside if he does stick to his role.. We already know what Doubts offers.
I actually did not think it would be a big deal but I think I was wrong. Worthy is playing. Doubs will get plenty of snaps. Can you say that with assurance about Tyquan?
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Looks like odd man out so far
Daily Chiefs
Tyquan Thornton currently leads all NFL WRs in average depth of target (aDOT) at a ridiculous 24.8 yards
That’s not just deep — that’s video game level deep.
Every time he’s targeted, it’s basically a shot play waiting to happen
