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she says the break happened in February...very odd, so if true that means the cops/child services whatever were at the house in early march and again last week.....then again... who knows what the baby mamma says to godfather grandma etc....about it....this Meredith robinson….
sounds like the guy bit off too much.
With what we know now what do you think is fair compensation for Hill in PPR dynasty leagues?
Yeah, different laws and policies. The ones I am more familiar with would be how child services policy can greatly impact investigations. Some states can't remove children, they can only make recommendations to the court. While other states can remove children and then the court system rules whether that was necessary.
Some people are throwing around 2nd round picks which is far too low imo. There has to be a balance with risk and reward. For a 2nd I’d rather lose him completely cause the reward isn’t that great. Flip side some owners want 90% of his previous value which I think is more than he’ll be worth even if completely cleared. He’ll still have a knucklehead factor in his value going forward imo. I’d say 50% of his prior value is fair. Somebody threw out Diggs as a comp and I’d say that’s prolly close. I’m risk adverse so for me a bit less than that.
If you were trading for him what's the highest pick you would give? Conversely, if you were trading him, what is the lowest pick you would take?
Diggs is way too much imo. I’m looking at Lockett right now.
Highest pick I’d give is probably the 1.05. To trade him I’d need the 1.03 or better I think.
At Lockett I think most Hill owners would rather just hold because they’re not gonna gain a lot. Has to be a balance. I mean before this Hill was worth two Diggs atleast.
I don't think I would give the 1.5 for him at this point and if you could get the 1.03 for him, that would be a boom IMO. I think his value is sinking faster than people want to admit.
What are the odds he's out of the league completely and never plays another down?
This.
He has some clear anger management issues. That's not an assumption. It basically comes from someone who knows them personally- this Meredith Robinson
Think there’s further ramifications than that though. If he’s suspended that long it means he did break his arm. Chiefs probably cut him and a good chance he’s blackballed from the NFL imo.
I think the chances of all that are less than the chances of a mid 1st being good
There is also the possibility nothing comes of this and you just got a stud for 1/4 his value
only people who cant play anymore get blackballed....ray rice and Kaep…...Tyreek can play and he will get another chance
I would be hesitant to take this persons social media posting as 100% gospel truth.
Despite what we think of somebody breaking their kid's arm (if he did it), I agree.
If I had an excess of assets and was already a contender I might make a move for him, but if I was a rebuilding team, and especially close to building a contender, I don't think I would trade for him.
Depends. Did he pull the kid up and break it in accidental anger or did he purposely wishbone it over his knee like Bo Jackson breaking his bat?
I’m not. I think he’s still worth more than a single mid 1st. It would probably take two mids for me to consider dealing him. About half his prior value. At that point I think it depends whether you’re risk adverse or a risk taker
I’m not assuming but she is who she says she is and her husband is who she says he is. They are close to the situation and she reported on this days before it came out so she obviously knows something. Question I guess is whether the info she was given is true.
yeah this women better be careful, If Im Tyreek and she is posting like that about me on the innernet? especially if its false would make me kind of upset..... who knows what the real relationship between the former Mrs Jeff Robinson and Tyreek and his fiancée is?
If he broke the kids arm and then all the other stuff gets scrutinized? I’d bet against it.
her husband is Crystal's godfather... I'd say they are pretty close to them
true but I would take it as more truthful than anyone on this board. she is privy to more info than we are, and has said more details will come out when the time is right but she wants to protect the child
Absolutely.
Lot of conspiracy theories here. So someone had inside knowledge of Hill getting a contract, phoned the police, made up some fake testimony, etc. Come on man.
It was within 20 minutes to an hour of that report of him being the highest paid WR so yes I think all of that is possible. Maybe someone is jealous, maybe it's not fake testimony but someone was sitting on the info and seeing him about to land that contract was more then they could stand, maybe someone called him before the police and asked for some money. Was someone on Facebook claiming to be his cousin who lives in same area he grew up saying "she is trying to ruin his career". A lot of stuff we are all trying to piece together and it behooves us to try and figure this out before it's to late to deal or to late to buy him cheap. You believe what you want. I think the timing should not be ignored.
You're right that there are tons of theories. But the whole world knew Hill was getting a contract. Come on man.
Too bad, that would have been a good get but I understand why it was revoked. Did you counter with anything?
I just offered 1.12 for him but it felt so insulting to offer I had to write a note saying I'm just doing my due diligence and if you don't like this offer check back with me one way or another once the dust settles. For me if today they announced charges were being pursued, the Chiefs cut and we found out he was suspended for 2019 and would return in 2020 with a new teams I'd still pay 1.12 and easily.
Pretty much how I feel about it. What did you sell him for? I got a mid 1st and Roquan Smith, who’s basically worth another mid 1st in this league. Like you I don’t feel great about it.
