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shadyridr

shadyridr

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Figured this would be a useful thread for everyone. We can rank them or suggest how much to bid on them.

These are the guys in question:

Green, Starks, Powell, LSH, & Ballard

With bye weeks in full force all these guys have value. Especially Ballard and whoever wins the Arizona job with cake matchups.

Id rank them:

Ballard- 3 nice matchups and Brown is out 2-3 weeks. Can he possibly steal the job in those 3 weeks?

Green- probably the best upside but also splitting touches on a pass first team

Powell- Arizona Oline is dreadful, cake matchup this week but the schedule is tough after that

LSH- might be a good pickup in PPR leagues

Starks- I think Ive seen enough from him not to bother, plus he was inactive last week

In a year of horrible WW pickups so far, the first 3 guys all have a chance to be WW Darling of the year. Are you blowing 100% of your budget on any of them? I think Ballard maybe but the other guys have too many question marks

 
Good post, I'm interested to see how people value these new options. I wouldn't ignore Alfonso Smith out either.

Alex Green is by far the best of the bunch, could end up being a solid RB2.

You could also toss B.Powell and Grimes into the mix with the Jets situation.

 
'shadyridr said:
Figured this would be a useful thread for everyone. We can rank them or suggest how much to bid on them. These are the guys in question:Green, Starks, Powell, LSH, & BallardWith bye weeks in full force all these guys have value. Especially Ballard and whoever wins the Arizona job with cake matchups.Id rank them:Ballard- 3 nice matchups and Brown is out 2-3 weeks. Can he possibly steal the job in those 3 weeks?Green- probably the best upside but also splitting touches on a pass first teamPowell- Arizona Oline is dreadful, cake matchup this week but the schedule is tough after thatLSH- might be a good pickup in PPR leaguesStarks- I think Ive seen enough from him not to bother, plus he was inactive last weekIn a year of horrible WW pickups so far, the first 3 guys all have a chance to be WW Darling of the year. Are you blowing 100% of your budget on any of them? I think Ballard maybe but the other guys have too many question marks
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Good post Shadyridr. This is a great question because teams with limited rosters may only be allowed to pickup one of these guys. I think Green has the most value for the rest of the season. While he may get TDs vultured, he has big play ability in a high powered offense.Powell is intruiging to me but the Arizona o-line and the return of Beanie scares me.
 
Well ballard hasn't been that impressive and he was losing playing time to Donald Brown.

Yeah he will start but Moore has proven to be a capable backup in this league and if Ballard struggles it wouldn't be shocking to see Moore become the most effective back.

I don't think Ballard is good enough to steal Brown's job. Brown will be the starter when he returns. I honestly think the Colts will just go to a commitee for the next 2-3 weeks.

 
Gotta go with the upside of Green. If he can step up his protection skills and not get Rodgers killed, he will most likely keep Starks on the bench. When November/December rolls around, and the weather is getting crappy, Green may be leaned on a little more, right when you need him for the fantasy playoffs.

I would avoid Powell, unless you believe the Cards O-line can improve their play. LSH seems to be the better option in PPR leagues..Kolb, if he doesn't get smashed into oblivion, will be throwing it 40 times a game from here on out. Could be a lot of dump-offs for LSH.

I don't know anything about Ballard, but I picked him up in one league to fill in for players on byes. Hope he can take advantage of the Jets run D for at least this week, anything beyond that is gravy.

 
I prefer to rank them as a best case scenario and go from highest potential to lowest:

Best - sure he's injury prone. But the Lions can score loads of points and Best is great at catching Stafford's dump offs.

Green - Not sold on this situation. But there's some solid potential here.

Powell - what a terrible situation. Arizona's o-line looks awful. And they play in the same division as SF/Seattle/St. Louis. But nobody else is healthy there.

Ballard - I think he sucks and offers extremely limited upside. A starter is a starter but I'd rather gamble on the others.

Starks - See above.

Howling - See above.

 
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Who you decide to pick up this week should be dependent on your team and situation.

If you can stash I'd go with Wilson/Best.

If you need a stopgap I'd go with Ballard.

Powell/LSH fit somewhere in between, although I really like Powell's odds due to him being a possible three down back. ARI has already stated that they won't give LSH near a full workload (5'7 185 compared to Powell's 5'9 205-210, both have good hands).

Green/Starks also fit somewhere in between although I believe it's a bit more murky than the ARI situation. GB doesn't trust Green in pass blocking situations so I would not rule Starks out in the slightest, regardless of talent.

 
Where does Bolden fit in this conversation? Guy like Ballard have more upside based on situation?

 
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'ponchsox said:
Where does Bolden fit in this conversation? Guy like Ballard have more upside based on situation?
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It'll be interesting to see how BB approached the ball security issues with Ridley. Bolden got 15ish touches again last week although he wasn't nearly as productive. He may continue to hover around that touch mark but also the inclusion of Vereen makes this mess even bigger. I was surprised to see him vulture a TD last week. I think Bolden can make a good flex given the right match-up but trying to guess how BB will utilize one of his four RBs on any given week is an exercise in futility.
 
Assuming we're talking rest of the season I'd rank them:

1. Green

2. Best

3. Ballard

4. Starks

5. Wilson

Best has the most upside (in PPR leagues especially) but comes with the greatest amount of risk. I like Ballard the most the next few weeks but I don't see why Brown would lose his starting job even if Ballard did well. So when Brown is healthy, I'd expect him to remain the starter with Ballard back in the No. 2 role. As a former Beanie/Williams owner I want no part of the Arizona backfield the rest of this season. I've had enough of that mess. That can be someone else's problem.

ETA - if we're including Kendall Hunter I'd rank him 4th ahead of Starks. I like him a lot but he needs a Gore injury to generate meaningful fantasy value.

 
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'ponchsox said:
Perhaps the "ww darling of the year" comes out of this group?
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With the amount of injuries, there may not be a "waiver wire darling of the year" at all. We may have to look at guys in bunches of 2-3 weeks, tops. "Billy Volek All-Stars" as it were.
 
Any room for Shane Vereen in this discussion? Patriots RB depth chart is crowded, but they seem intent on using every horse in the stable. Are they waiting for one guy to emerge?

 
Can we add Joique Bell into the discussion? If Best does not get cleared to play, it may be possible that Detroit puts him on I/R. With LeShoure not being the picture of good health, perhaps Bell could get some steady work. He is already pretty consistent as a flex with 6-8 points per week.

 
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Can we add Joique Bell into the discussion? If Best does not get cleared to play, it may be possible that Detroit puts him on I/R. With LeShoure not being the picture of good health, perhaps Bell could get some steady work. He is already pretty consistent as a flex with 6-8 points per week.
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Great call. Bell is flying way under the radar. He looks like a solid RB3 in PPR leagues. I'd much rather have him than anyone in the Arizona backfield.
 
'packersfan said:
'Cawbird said:
Can we add Joique Bell into the discussion? If Best does not get cleared to play, it may be possible that Detroit puts him on I/R. With LeShoure not being the picture of good health, perhaps Bell could get some steady work. He is already pretty consistent as a flex with 6-8 points per week.
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Great call. Bell is flying way under the radar. He looks like a solid RB3 in PPR leagues. I'd much rather have him than anyone in the Arizona backfield.
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It sounds like Best is coming back. A guy knows when he is symtpom free, the doctors just confirm it. I think Bell has potential but I also think Kevin Smith is a better rB than LeShoure so what I think doesn't matter. It is about oppurtunity and right now he won't have much beyond this week.
 
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I am a Ridley owner and just picked up Boldin after he was dropped by an owner in order to add Green. I am leery of the BB RB death trap, but think 1 or both will hold value moving forward. I am concerned about Ridley's tendency to put the ball on the turf and would not be surprised to see Boldin move atop the depth chart and get a lion's share of the carries this week.

'SameSongNDance said:
'ponchsox said:
Where does Bolden fit in this conversation? Guy like Ballard have more upside based on situation?
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It'll be interesting to see how BB approached the ball security issues with Ridley. Bolden got 15ish touches again last week although he wasn't nearly as productive. He may continue to hover around that touch mark but also the inclusion of Vereen makes this mess even bigger. I was surprised to see him vulture a TD last week. I think Bolden can make a good flex given the right match-up but trying to guess how BB will utilize one of his four RBs on any given week is an exercise in futility.
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Another possible stash that's been mentioned in other threads is Justin Forsett in Houston. He probably won't get many carries unless Foster goes down, but Tate's toe issue is starting to be worrisome. Tate missed last week and comments out of Houston are cryptic and cautious. If it's turf toe, Tate's going to be out a while in all likelihood. Forsett could be the #2 guy in HOU now.

Lamar Miller in MIA could be worth a grab too with Daniel Thomas concussed and Bush dinged up. The Dolphin staff doesn't like Miller's "awareness" I read in Rotoworld and his carries have gone down each of the last 3 games. Still, he's flashed ability and might have opportunity. Also, Thomas's concussion is his 2nd of the season...another Jahvid Best/Austin Collie case? Hopefully not for Thomas' sake but you never know.

 
Honestly Powell is a straight up gangster WW pick imo. You know he's going to get the chance, I cant really say the same for starks/green. Powell looked great in camp and has been handling himself real well in camp. I think this staff really likes him. I dont know, this just has feel good story written all over it!

I dont doubt green's potential was straight pimp at hawaii, i just question his opportunity. Due to the offensive philosophy it doesnt seem like Barry Sanders would succeed in that backfield.

As for Ballard, oh vic, vic, vic.. your time has come my good man, this is it lets take this opportunity and run with it!! this Front Office and coaching staff drafted the dude, so they must like him. I can see him putting up servicable #s and brown coming back to a change of pace role.

 
Glad to see Wilson being thrown around in here with the others,

he's been dropped in quite a few leagues, it may get tough there

though with Bradshaw looking the way he did last week.

May not have seen the last of Keven Smith either, but I think we have.

(probably dropped in quite a few leagues)

For those in return leagues Darius Reynaud, Ten WR, RB maybe worth a shot.

I wonder if Peyton Hillis, KC RB has been dropped in leagues what his future is.

Shaun Draughn, KC RB could be another candidate.

Ronnie Hillman, Den RB could be another candidate.

LeGarrette Blount, TB RB could be another candidate.

 
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Here's the Cardinals schedule:

6- BUF

7- @MIN

8- SF

9- @GB

10- BYE

11- @ATL

12- STL

13- NYJ

14- @SEA

15- DET

16- CHI

Holy yikes! considering their OLine woes and Beanie possibly coming back week 12 I think Ill pass on Powell.

 
One other name to throw into the mix (which has me somewhat concerned as a Doug Martin owner).

None other than LeGarrette Blount.

It appears he already sealed up goal-line back duties and given a favorable matchup against the Chiefs he could wind up performing if the Muscle Hamster continues to struggle. And there's a matchup against the Saints looming in Week 7. Just saying.

 
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Don't forget D-Rich and Turbin. Their playing time will require that the guys ahead of them get nicked up, but if they do get starts, they both have stud potential.

 
'shadyridr said:
Here's the Cardinals schedule:6- BUF7- @MIN8- SF9- @GB10- BYE11- @ATL12- STL13- NYJ14- @SEA15- DET16- CHIHoly yikes! considering their OLine woes and Beanie possibly coming back week 12 I think Ill pass on Powell.
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I've seen much worse schedules for RBs than this. At least he has some very soft match-ups thrown in there. BUF, ATL, NYJ and STL are all pretty soft.
 
Jesus. Waivers just ran in my league. We start with a $200 budget. Here were the winning bids:

Ballard ($183)

Green ($115)

Powell ($69)

LSH passed thru waivers. Best was already on a roster.

People are desperate now with bye weeks coming up

 
'Otis said:
Don't forget D-Rich and Turbin. Their playing time will require that the guys ahead of them get nicked up, but if they do get starts, they both have stud potential.
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i too am stashing D-Rich. Turbin is interesting, and if I had the space I would stash him too.what is the thinking on d-rich for next year?
 
'shadyridr said:
Jesus. Waivers just ran in my league. We start with a $200 budget. Here were the winning bids:Ballard ($183)Green ($115)Powell ($69)LSH passed thru waivers. Best was already on a roster.People are desperate now with bye weeks coming up
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:lmao:How could you spend 90% of you budget on Ballard? Madness. If Brown was done for the season, maybe. Even then..
 
'SameSongNDance said:
'shadyridr said:
Jesus. Waivers just ran in my league. We start with a $200 budget. Here were the winning bids:Ballard ($183)Green ($115)Powell ($69)LSH passed thru waivers. Best was already on a roster.People are desperate now with bye weeks coming up
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:lmao:How could you spend 90% of you budget on Ballard? Madness. If Brown was done for the season, maybe. Even then..
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cuz the owner has Brown, is 1-4, and his only other starting RB is Morris
 
'shadyridr said:
'SameSongNDance said:
'shadyridr said:
Jesus. Waivers just ran in my league. We start with a $200 budget. Here were the winning bids:Ballard ($183)Green ($115)Powell ($69)LSH passed thru waivers. Best was already on a roster.People are desperate now with bye weeks coming up
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:lmao:How could you spend 90% of you budget on Ballard? Madness. If Brown was done for the season, maybe. Even then..
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cuz the owner has Brown, is 1-4, and his only other starting RB is Morris
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Yikes, well in that situation it makes sense then.
 
'cusefan115 said:
Does anyone have any insight into cedric peerman? It seems like there is an opportunity there.
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I was thinking the same thing. Scott is now out. BJGE now has fumbled a few times and is barely clearing 3 ypc. Peerman has looked good in his very limited carries. He could work his way into the lineup and with an injury to BJGE, he could quickly become a starter.
 
'Horses Mouth said:
'Otis said:
Don't forget D-Rich and Turbin. Their playing time will require that the guys ahead of them get nicked up, but if they do get starts, they both have stud potential.
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i too am stashing D-Rich. Turbin is interesting, and if I had the space I would stash him too.what is the thinking on d-rich for next year?
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I think he gets a shot. Hard to predict now, since SJax could resign, Pead will probably also be given the same opportunity, and they may draft another RB. But he's probably shown enough that they give him a chance to fail.
 
Not sure how anyone can be excited about Richardson. I like his talent, but their schedule is brutal and you're stuck sitting, waitnig for Sjax to get nicked.

 
'Horses Mouth said:
'Otis said:
Don't forget D-Rich and Turbin. Their playing time will require that the guys ahead of them get nicked up, but if they do get starts, they both have stud potential.
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i too am stashing D-Rich. Turbin is interesting, and if I had the space I would stash him too.what is the thinking on d-rich for next year?
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I actually like Turbin as a surer thing than DRich. That said, both are high upside guys.
 
'xenon said:
So what's the consensus of Ballard vs Green?Who would you rather have and why?
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Ballard may turn into a decent stopgap over the next three weeks with a soft schedule. If you are seriously hurting at RB, he may be the best target.Green is the higher upside long term pick up. If he learns how to pass protect he could be golden.
'CanaBuc said:
Where does Hillman rank?McGahee fumbled and had a key drop last week........
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McGahee is still the guy. It'll take an injury for Hillman to become fantasy relevant.As for the DRich stuff. It should have been made abundantly clear that he was nothing more than a handcuff when SJax saw twice as many carries with on leg in week 3. He's an interesting dynasty prospect but SJax isn't being listed on injury reports anymore. DRich has almost zero value to non SJax owners right about now.
 
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Anyone think a guy like Hightower makes it back on a team before the end of the year? I think the Skins only dropped him because his knee was not fully healed, but it has been 6 or so weeks since then, he has to be getting close to being fully healed, the guy is only 26 and is a good receiver out of the backfield and is a pretty hard runner. If healthy, I think he is quite a bit better than most the guys on these lists, he just needs a team.

 
'DesmondBishop said:
Anyone think a guy like Hightower makes it back on a team before the end of the year? I think the Skins only dropped him because his knee was not fully healed, but it has been 6 or so weeks since then, he has to be getting close to being fully healed, the guy is only 26 and is a good receiver out of the backfield and is a pretty hard runner. If healthy, I think he is quite a bit better than most the guys on these lists, he just needs a team.
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I seem to be the only person who is touting Hightower right now. JAson LaCanfora said he should be healthy in 2 weeks. It would appear the reason the Cards didn't sign even a depth RB this week is because they are waiting to see if Hightower can get healthy in that time frame. If they do sign him he would probably become the top back right away.Hightower is coming back from a torn ACL that happened about a year ago and recently had to have a knee scope to clean some stuff out. The knee scope isn't a major procedure (what Donald Brown just had) but it was enough to make the Skins opt for Grant instead of Hightower when Helu went down.I think he has a team, his old team. He just needs to prove to them he is healthy. I think he could be starting in Arizona by Week 8. Is there a lot of speculation in there. Yes, but the Cards are giving hints they are interested in bringing him back. Btw, most of the beat writers still think Stephens-Howling is going to start this week and Stephens-Howlings is listed as the starter on their updated depth chart. William Powell will definitely see his most extensive action though and does have a good matchup this week. Could he run with the chance he gets and never look back? Possible but seems unlikely.But keep this in mind about Powell. He only had 23 career carries in college. He was a backup or hurt most of his college career. Also, on his pro day he pulled his hamstring on his 40 yard dash.Also, after seeing his most work last week he left at half with a head injury. Dude is seriously injury prone. Btw, many people talk about Powell's preseason stats but the only time he played in the first half in the preseason was game 4 when he had 9 carries for 18 yards.He does seem to be a shifty RB with a quick burst and he could break a big play against the Bills but his longterm prospects aren't great. Could you do worse for a one week fillin? Yes but that is about it IMO.
 
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