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MadMustaff
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After that drive , I say Wynn.. wow
Yeah, looks like Morency will get a few carries here with Wynn going back to the locker room (for cramps)
redman
Footballguy
Wynn is at his fastest hitting the holes between the tackles. He sucks beyond the line of scrimmage or in open space. Morency isn't as big, but he's got more wiggle and also seems like a better receiver. I have a feeling you're going to be seeing Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside all year.
Ahmad Rashad
Footballguy
Yes, Morency is coming off an injury so hasn't yet taken on a full load. His load is increasing and hopefully he won't be sore tomorrow and will be ready to take on a feature role, if they want him to do that.
GB came out in the second half with a silly run out the clock gameplan that ended up costing them the game when they couldn't pick up first downs with that conservative playcalling. They tried running Wynn every down, as he's more of a grind it out type, but it didn't work.
After the first series, Wynn didn't look very good. Morency got 7 receptions, which is very valuable in a PPR league.
It looks like GB might be trying to do some kind of thunder and lightning rotation with Wynn and Morency, though it's too early to tell what they'll end up using, especially when Jackson comes back from his injury.
GB came out in the second half with a silly run out the clock gameplan that ended up costing them the game when they couldn't pick up first downs with that conservative playcalling. They tried running Wynn every down, as he's more of a grind it out type, but it didn't work.
After the first series, Wynn didn't look very good. Morency got 7 receptions, which is very valuable in a PPR league.
It looks like GB might be trying to do some kind of thunder and lightning rotation with Wynn and Morency, though it's too early to tell what they'll end up using, especially when Jackson comes back from his injury.
ready5
Footballguy
good point. i'll just pick up LT off the waiver wire instead.
maxwell1295
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I don't know how this will play out, but the Packers looked better when Morency was in the game.
Traders2001
Footballguy
I guess we got the answer yesterday night , it s obvious that they see Morency as their third down back .
He was healthy and still did nt get a carry in the second half , except in the last two minutes .
So i say from going from here they see Wynn starting with Jackson spelling and Morency on third downs .
He was healthy and still did nt get a carry in the second half , except in the last two minutes .
So i say from going from here they see Wynn starting with Jackson spelling and Morency on third downs .
packersfan
Footballguy
I thought they looked better running the ball with Wynn. Morency did well as the third-down RB. There weren't many positives to come out of the game last night given how the Packers handed Chicago the ballgame but I thought the running game finally looked like it has a chance to be effective. The Bears' D may not be quite as good as it was last season but I still think they can get after you in the running game. But the Packers held up against them and ran well for the most part. It's too bad Wynn had to leave early because he looked sensational on the opening drive. Morency's best work came as a receiver; he did a good job catching the ball on check downs and getting solid yardage after the catch. Both looked like Barry Sanders and Jim Brown compared to Brandon Jackson. Consistency is the key so we need to see if they can deliver at a solid level for more than just one game. But coming out of last night it would appear Wynn is the guy to target as the starter and Morency as the third-down RB. Both would have solid RB3 value (Morency in PPR leagues) if they can keep those roles and show consistency. That last part is the critical question here.
sho nuff
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Wynn had some nice runs. But Morency came in and had that quicker burst.The other thing I saw late was on the outside runs, Wynn just kept running right into the line...thinking there should be a hole. But in that blocking scheme there is no designated hole. Several times it looked as if one cut would do it at least to fall for a yard or two...instead he ran right into the back of the linemen for no gain.Did Morency get hurt though? Looked like he came out at one point holding his one shoulder low.
Man in the yellow hat
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I keep looking for the article where it talk about how Wynn was sick all day long with the flu or something. Seriously. I know it was hot in Green Bay, but the guy had one long run then asked out of the game for cramps. This is the second time this season the guy had displayed a complete lack of toughness. The first was calling a timeout to he could get off the field after tweaking his ankle.
Wynn looked good in spots, but he strikes me as guy who has no mental toughness. Not a good sign for a guy who is going to play in some cold, cold weather.
Wynn looked good in spots, but he strikes me as guy who has no mental toughness. Not a good sign for a guy who is going to play in some cold, cold weather.
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packersfan
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I agree Morency is quicker but Wynn struck me as being a better fit for the running game in terms of the guy to lean on 15 or more times - assuming that ever happens with a GB running back all season long. Again, I think it was unfortunate he had to leave the game after the first drive because he looked really good. I was hoping to see more of him but he was shut down for the rest of the half after that - and I think that impacted the Packers' offense as well. They got on a great roll with him in that first drive and never really got that feel again in the running game consistently.
redman
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I seem to recall similar things being said about Antowain Smith and Kevin Faulk in NE a few years ago. And GB is one of the rare teams that can claim a good enough QB to compensate for lack of talent at RB the way that Brady and Co. did in NE back then.
packersfan
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It's definitely a RBBC situation. However, last night was the first time all season where I thought that maybe - just maybe - there could be some fantasy value to be mined from the GB backfield. I wouldn't be starting Wynn or Morency as anything more than RB3s but if last night was a positive sign in my opinion that the Packers may not be a graveyard for fantasy value in the backfield. I still wouldn't trust either of them just yet but I'd definitely be OK with having one of them on my bench just to see how things played out. To me, this looks like what the Pittman/Graham thing looked like last week for the Bucs. We spent a lot of time discussing which of those RBs would have more value and it was pretty much an equal split in opinions. I see something similar here with Morency being Green Bay's Pittman and Wynn being Green Bay's Graham.
Traders2001
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Or they are really convinced that Brandon Jackson is the man and they start Wynn until Jackson comes back .
They probably made up their mind ( And they have been saying this since the start of the season no surprise ) that Morency will be the third down guy not more ( Unless injuries ) Yeah he looked fast but to me Morency = Kevin Faulk
they both run the same way and both built the same .
So it s probably safe to say that yesterday cleared up the mess in GB backfield .
Morency was nt hurt and strictly played on third down ( Except when Wynn was whatever you call it sidelined due to injury ) so its clear he will be the third down back for the season ( Unless injury like i mentioned )
And as far as the featured back ( 1st and second down plus goal line ) they will probably give the ball back to Jackson when he comes with Wynn as the back up .
So for the Morency's owner thinking he would become the man , i think you will be desappointed.
They probably made up their mind ( And they have been saying this since the start of the season no surprise ) that Morency will be the third down guy not more ( Unless injuries ) Yeah he looked fast but to me Morency = Kevin Faulk
they both run the same way and both built the same .
So it s probably safe to say that yesterday cleared up the mess in GB backfield .
Morency was nt hurt and strictly played on third down ( Except when Wynn was whatever you call it sidelined due to injury ) so its clear he will be the third down back for the season ( Unless injury like i mentioned )
And as far as the featured back ( 1st and second down plus goal line ) they will probably give the ball back to Jackson when he comes with Wynn as the back up .
So for the Morency's owner thinking he would become the man , i think you will be desappointed.
packersfan
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Barring injuries to Wynn or Morency, Brandon Jackson shouldn't even be on the active list on game days for the remainder of the season. He's terrible.
Illegal Pants Downfield
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Cheesedawg
Footballguy
If you are in a PPR Morency probably has more value than in a more TD-heavy league. Wynn is probably going to get most of the short rushing TD's. And while McCarthy is abandoning the run at times right now you can bet he is still committed to establishing a run game before the season ends. This is going to be a work-in-progress for awhile, but in December you had better be able to run the ball in Green Bay or you won't be able to beat anybody. McCarthy and the Packers know this very well. Their OL and RB corps both have upside from the poor play we've seen for the most part so far. My money is on Wynn holding off Jackson for the early-down role simply because he is far superior at protecting Favre.
Eagle Eye
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I didn't realize Wynn had an edge in blocking. Unusual for a rookie.
Cheesedawg
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That is how he got on the field to begin with, because Jackson couldn't pass protect well enough to save Favre. Wynn was put in the 3rd down role with Morency out because he was solid in pass protection.Eagle Eye said:
Traders2001
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Thats probably not what the GB coachimg staff thinks , unless they like Wynn so much that he will be the man and Morency 3rd down .But what i saw yesterday is that they really dont think of Morency as far as featured back ( He did well like a Kevin Faulk when he comes in , but is nt a every down back ) so if it s not Jackson it will be Wynn.packersfan said:
TheBradyBunch
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On the Packers pre-game radio show last night, they had an interview with McCarthy. I don't have an exact quote, but he seemed eager to get Wynn the start and see if he could become the go-to back. In fact, after gushing about Wynn, the only other back I recall him mentioning was Ryan Grant. Obviously those plans changed quickly after a promising start, but the staff seems the most excited about Wynn.
Like I've said before, though, I don't see any of these guys being the Packers starter next season. It's an ugly group.
Like I've said before, though, I don't see any of these guys being the Packers starter next season. It's an ugly group.
mchmura89
Footballguy
I thought the same thing, when they talked about him needing fluids in the first half. I guess he got the wrong message from McCarthy's "that won't happen again" after the timeout issue. Guess Wynn thought he should take himself out much sooner, so he wouldn't have to waste a timeout. Somehow I don't think that's what McCarthy meant.Man in the yellow hat said:
Eagle Eye
Footballguy
My bad...I thought he was comparing him to Morency as a blocker.
az_prof
Footballguy
I like Morency best, if I had to choose, as he reminds me a bit of Westbrook and seems the most explosive. However, he has had trouble staying healthy in the NFL so far. Wynn is a bruiser but doesn't have very good hands from what I saw. He can run effectively up the middle and break tackles, but I didn't see much speed and even Madden commented on how he should not have been caught on that long run. Jackson is the most balanced but doesn't seem good enough at anything. Grant is the wild card. I see them all as complementary guys any one of whom could be decent or horrible from a fantasy perspective on any given week.
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