You fans in Florida are awful (1 Viewer)

[cobalt_27]

Cappy, this isn't intended to point the finger at you. It's the people around you who are just an embarrassment. Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

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Looking at the league attendance rankings, both the Marlins and D-Rays share last place honors and are the only teams averaging less than 20,000 per home game:

1. Yankees 52,641

2. Dodgers 47,434

3. Mets 46,877

4. Cards 43,473

5. Angels 41,705

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29. Marlins 16,623

30. Rays 16,288

Pitiful.

 

[Capella]

Rays haven't had a winning season in 10 years, haven't won more than 70 games and have finished out of last place once. They also currently have a 25M payroll.

You tell me why more people should be coming out to the stadium.

 

[Capella]

Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

btw, pretty dumb to make a blanket statement like this when the Bucs, Lightning, Dolphins all constantly sell-out and all the other teams do very well. Not to mention all the college support (not pro, I know).

 

[the rover]

Rays haven't had a winning season in 10 years, haven't won more than 70 games and have finished out of last place once. They also currently have a 25M payroll.

You tell me why more people should be coming out to the stadium.

Akinori Iwamura figurines?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

2007 - Attendance Home Road Overall RNK TEAM GMS TOTAL AVG PCT GMS AVG PCT GMS AVG PCT 1 NY Yankees 74 3,895,475 52,641 91.6 70 37,597 83.9 144 45,328 88.3 2 LA Dodgers 71 3,367,832 47,434 84.7 74 33,361 75.0 145 40,252 80.3 3 NY Mets 71 3,328,295 46,877 81.7 74 37,393 82.0 145 42,037 81.8 4 St. Louis 70 3,062,077 43,743 93.3 73 33,021 75.3 143 38,270 84.4 5 LA Angels 74 3,086,239 41,705 92.6 71 31,659 68.7 145 36,786 80.8 6 Chicago Cubs 75 3,007,555 40,100 97.5 70 36,273 80.1 145 38,253 88.7 7 San Francisco 74 2,964,177 40,056 96.4 71 34,812 76.3 145 37,488 86.1 8 Philadelphia 74 2,814,921 38,039 87.4 71 31,766 70.5 145 34,968 79.0 9 Detroit 75 2,825,662 37,675 93.9 72 30,841 68.2 147 34,328 80.5 10 Houston 71 2,641,796 37,208 90.9 74 32,825 73.6 145 34,971 81.7 11 Boston 72 2,641,570 36,688 101.4 75 39,215 82.7 147 37,977 90.6 12 Milwaukee 71 2,492,278 35,102 82.8 74 32,020 72.5 145 33,529 77.4 13 San Diego 71 2,460,615 34,656 81.5 73 33,425 71.5 144 34,032 76.2 14 Atlanta 74 2,530,259 34,192 68.3 72 33,658 74.5 146 33,929 71.2 15 Seattle 71 2,388,746 33,644 70.4 72 32,968 72.5 143 33,304 71.5 16 Chicago Sox 72 2,390,643 33,203 81.8 74 29,994 67.5 146 31,577 74.2 17 Texas 72 2,147,351 29,824 60.7 70 29,710 69.8 142 29,767 64.9 18 Minnesota 72 2,077,788 28,858 59.3 74 30,473 68.1 146 29,676 63.6 19 Colorado 71 2,022,389 28,484 56.5 74 33,043 73.0 145 30,810 64.4 20 Toronto 71 2,007,495 28,274 56.0 74 30,609 68.0 145 29,466 61.8 21 Arizona 75 2,069,512 27,593 56.3 72 33,992 74.2 147 30,727 64.7 22 Cleveland 71 1,959,088 27,592 63.7 75 29,896 67.7 146 28,775 65.8 23 Baltimore 72 1,956,268 27,170 56.4 71 29,282 64.9 143 28,218 60.5 24 Cincinnati 74 1,894,661 25,603 60.9 70 33,193 74.0 144 29,293 67.5 25 Washington 71 1,719,162 24,213 53.5 75 30,133 66.0 146 27,254 60.0 26 Oakland 71 1,694,598 23,867 54.7 76 32,358 70.1 147 28,257 62.9 27 Pittsburgh 73 1,615,513 22,130 57.7 71 34,817 75.9 144 28,385 67.5 28 Kansas City 74 1,492,086 20,163 49.4 71 28,454 62.5 145 24,223 56.2 29 Florida 74 1,230,162 16,623 45.8 72 31,067 68.3 146 23,746 58.2 30 Tampa Bay 75 1,221,640 16,288 38.8 71 31,136 67.5 146 23,509 53.4
You need to offer capacity to the conversation and also look at capacity ratings which really is the only thing that counts. The Yankees and their 220 million dollar payroll better damn well sell out every game or lead the league in attendance. There would be no way to buy a playoff losing team without the fans. True?

 

[Capella]

Rays haven't had a winning season in 10 years, haven't won more than 70 games and have finished out of last place once. They also currently have a 25M payroll.

You tell me why more people should be coming out to the stadium.

Akinori Iwamura figurines?

Almost time for that BJ Upton wiffleball set.GB football being back.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Looks like the Cubs and Red Sux have better capacity ratings. I'm going to guess they have better fans than the Yankees. I'll hang up and listen.

 

[JZilla]

Red Sawx over 101% home capacity. They really are as dumb as they sound.

 

[JZilla]

San Francisco at 96% surprises the hell out of me. Tell me again how some ##### from Queens was able to waltz in there and snag Barry's ball?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Red Sawx over 101% home capacity. They really are as dumb as they sound.

That's pretty dumb. They are the worst fans in all of sports.

 

[JZilla]

Red Sawx over 101% home capacity. They really are as dumb as they sound.

That's pretty dumb. They are the worst fans in all of sports.

Dumb dummies

 

[MrPhoenix]

Red Sawx over 101% home capacity. They really are as dumb as they sound.

That's pretty dumb. They are the worst fans in all of sports.

Dumb dummies

Yeah, I'd wanna go to Fenway if it was the only good thing to do in that state too besides some Clam Chowder Eating Competition, which you know Kobayashi will just own anyway, leading us back to Fenway.

 

[JaxBill]

That Marlins average figure looks about 10,000 too high.

I swear there are nights when the Jacksonville Suns have more actual live bodies in the seats than the Marlins.

 

[cobalt_27]

Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

btw, pretty dumb to make a blanket statement like this when the Bucs, Lightning, Dolphins all constantly sell-out and all the other teams do very well. Not to mention all the college support (not pro, I know).

I was speaking in the context of pro baseball. My bad.FWIW, major props on Tampa embracing the Lightning.

 

[Capella]

Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

btw, pretty dumb to make a blanket statement like this when the Bucs, Lightning, Dolphins all constantly sell-out and all the other teams do very well. Not to mention all the college support (not pro, I know).

I was speaking in the context of pro baseball. My bad.FWIW, major props on Tampa embracing the Lightning.

That's fine, but again...you show me the fan base that is going to support 10 consecutive seasons of .400-level play. I can't imagine there being too many of them. Maybe the Cubs because people go to Wrigley to get hammered and stare at #######. That's it. There's no way the Sox and Yanks would be playing to capacity with the same records the Rays have put up either.It's easy to blame the fans. Blame the management that hasn't cared.

 

[wilked]

worst post evah

Solutions, not desolation

 

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That's fine, but again...you show me the fan base that is going to support 10 consecutive seasons of .400-level play. I can't imagine there being too many of them. Maybe the Cubs because people go to Wrigley to get hammered and stare at #######. That's it. There's no way the Sox and Yanks would be playing to capacity with the same records the Rays have put up either.It's easy to blame the fans. Blame the management that hasn't cared.

 

[shadyridr]

The DRays fans I kind of understand. Who the hell wants to go to watch a game in a dump of a stadium, indoors, in beautiful Tampa. Meanwhile the team has sucked every year and they never spend money to improve it.

The Marlins fans should be ashamed. Sure they play in a football stadium but the team has been competitive in the past winning 2 WS, has shown the desire to spend money when they think the team has a chance to win, and the stadium is outdoors. No excuse for them.

 

[JaxBill]

Wow. Check out the view at the nats-marlins game Wednesday-

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...07091202876.jpg

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Wow. Check out the view at the nats-marlins game Wednesday-

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...07091202876.jpg

That's about the same number of people that are at a Lakeland Flying Tigers game without the 40,000 extra seats.

 

[JaxBill]

Wow. Check out the view at the nats-marlins game Wednesday-

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...07091202876.jpg

That's about the same number of people that are at a Lakeland Flying Tigers game without the 40,000 extra seats.

There were about 400 fans on hand when the game started Wednesday afternoon and the announced attendance was 10,121. The Marlins have the smallest total attendance in the majors.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2007/sep/13..._marlins_top_n/

 

[Ghost Rider]

Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

btw, pretty dumb to make a blanket statement like this when the Bucs, Lightning, Dolphins all constantly sell-out and all the other teams do very well. Not to mention all the college support (not pro, I know).

I was speaking in the context of pro baseball. My bad.FWIW, major props on Tampa embracing the Lightning.

That's fine, but again...you show me the fan base that is going to support 10 consecutive seasons of .400-level play. I can't imagine there being too many of them. Maybe the Cubs because people go to Wrigley to get hammered and stare at #######. That's it. There's no way the Sox and Yanks would be playing to capacity with the same records the Rays have put up either.It's easy to blame the fans. Blame the management that hasn't cared.

Then how do you explain the sad attendance numbers at Marlins games? You know, the same Marlins franchise that has won two World Series in the last decade, including one just four years ago (2003).

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

btw, pretty dumb to make a blanket statement like this when the Bucs, Lightning, Dolphins all constantly sell-out and all the other teams do very well. Not to mention all the college support (not pro, I know).

I was speaking in the context of pro baseball. My bad.FWIW, major props on Tampa embracing the Lightning.

That's fine, but again...you show me the fan base that is going to support 10 consecutive seasons of .400-level play. I can't imagine there being too many of them. Maybe the Cubs because people go to Wrigley to get hammered and stare at #######. That's it. There's no way the Sox and Yanks would be playing to capacity with the same records the Rays have put up either.It's easy to blame the fans. Blame the management that hasn't cared.

Then how do you explain the sad attendance numbers at Marlins games? You know, the same Marlins franchise that has won two World Series in the last decade, including one just four years ago (2003).

b/c Miami has some of the worst sports fans in the country, across all sports.

 

[Capella]

Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

btw, pretty dumb to make a blanket statement like this when the Bucs, Lightning, Dolphins all constantly sell-out and all the other teams do very well. Not to mention all the college support (not pro, I know).

I was speaking in the context of pro baseball. My bad.FWIW, major props on Tampa embracing the Lightning.

That's fine, but again...you show me the fan base that is going to support 10 consecutive seasons of .400-level play. I can't imagine there being too many of them. Maybe the Cubs because people go to Wrigley to get hammered and stare at #######. That's it. There's no way the Sox and Yanks would be playing to capacity with the same records the Rays have put up either.It's easy to blame the fans. Blame the management that hasn't cared.

Then how do you explain the sad attendance numbers at Marlins games? You know, the same Marlins franchise that has won two World Series in the last decade, including one just four years ago (2003).

b/c Miami has some of the worst sports fans in the country, across all sports.

Miami really has nothing to do with Tampa.

 

[cobalt_27]

Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

btw, pretty dumb to make a blanket statement like this when the Bucs, Lightning, Dolphins all constantly sell-out and all the other teams do very well. Not to mention all the college support (not pro, I know).

I was speaking in the context of pro baseball. My bad.FWIW, major props on Tampa embracing the Lightning.

That's fine, but again...you show me the fan base that is going to support 10 consecutive seasons of .400-level play. I can't imagine there being too many of them. Maybe the Cubs because people go to Wrigley to get hammered and stare at #######. That's it. There's no way the Sox and Yanks would be playing to capacity with the same records the Rays have put up either.It's easy to blame the fans. Blame the management that hasn't cared.

And, what's the Marlins' excuse?

 

[cobalt_27]

Florida, ironically, just doesn't deserve a pro team if crap like this is going to happen.

btw, pretty dumb to make a blanket statement like this when the Bucs, Lightning, Dolphins all constantly sell-out and all the other teams do very well. Not to mention all the college support (not pro, I know).

I was speaking in the context of pro baseball. My bad.FWIW, major props on Tampa embracing the Lightning.

That's fine, but again...you show me the fan base that is going to support 10 consecutive seasons of .400-level play. I can't imagine there being too many of them. Maybe the Cubs because people go to Wrigley to get hammered and stare at #######. That's it. There's no way the Sox and Yanks would be playing to capacity with the same records the Rays have put up either.It's easy to blame the fans. Blame the management that hasn't cared.

Then how do you explain the sad attendance numbers at Marlins games? You know, the same Marlins franchise that has won two World Series in the last decade, including one just four years ago (2003).

b/c Miami has some of the worst sports fans in the country, across all sports.

Miami really has nothing to do with Tampa.

Do the Heat draw much? I'm sure the Dolphins do...but it's pretty hard to not pack the seats in the NFL.

 

[Thorn]

Winning is a huge factor. I remember around 96-97 in Boston I could walk up and buy a ticket day of the game easy.

 

[cobalt_27]

Winning is a huge factor. I remember around 96-97 in Boston I could walk up and buy a ticket day of the game easy.

Same thing with the Yanks in the 80s. Success breeds contempt...and bandwagons.But, I don't think it was ever this bad as we're seeing in Florida with their baseball teams. With the Rays, I sort of get the apathy. But, with the Marlins? They have no friggin' excuse.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Winning is a huge factor. I remember around 96-97 in Boston I could walk up and buy a ticket day of the game easy.

Same thing with the Yanks in the 80s. Success breeds contempt...and bandwagons.But, I don't think it was ever this bad as we're seeing in Florida with their baseball teams. With the Rays, I sort of get the apathy. But, with the Marlins? They have no friggin' excuse.

The Tigers fans this year who just rediscovered baseball last year have been as bad as any group of fans I've ever encountered. They expect to win a championship, and that means they didn't painfully follow the team through the lean years. I've sat at Comerica with 15,000 people in great seats and had a blast and I had to go through a broker this year when I was there to get good tickets for an A's/Tigers game. That is ok. If the bandwagon fans or the fans who have passively followed the team now show their support by coming to the stadium that is good for the bottom line. But these fans who ##### and whine and complain about one game in July are atrocious. Cut this guy, trade this guy, fire the coaches. Best one was a thread at a main board were the poster said that Tiger fans overrate Justin Verlander. Unbelievable.

 

[cobalt_27]

Winning is a huge factor. I remember around 96-97 in Boston I could walk up and buy a ticket day of the game easy.

Same thing with the Yanks in the 80s. Success breeds contempt...and bandwagons.But, I don't think it was ever this bad as we're seeing in Florida with their baseball teams. With the Rays, I sort of get the apathy. But, with the Marlins? They have no friggin' excuse.

The Tigers fans this year who just rediscovered baseball last year have been as bad as any group of fans I've ever encountered. They expect to win a championship, and that means they didn't painfully follow the team through the lean years. I've sat at Comerica with 15,000 people in great seats and had a blast and I had to go through a broker this year when I was there to get good tickets for an A's/Tigers game. That is ok. If the bandwagon fans or the fans who have passively followed the team now show their support by coming to the stadium that is good for the bottom line. But these fans who ##### and whine and complain about one game in July are atrocious. Cut this guy, trade this guy, fire the coaches. Best one was a thread at a main board were the poster said that Tiger fans overrate Justin Verlander. Unbelievable.

That's just gross.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Winning is a huge factor. I remember around 96-97 in Boston I could walk up and buy a ticket day of the game easy.

Same thing with the Yanks in the 80s. Success breeds contempt...and bandwagons.But, I don't think it was ever this bad as we're seeing in Florida with their baseball teams. With the Rays, I sort of get the apathy. But, with the Marlins? They have no friggin' excuse.

The Tigers fans this year who just rediscovered baseball last year have been as bad as any group of fans I've ever encountered. They expect to win a championship, and that means they didn't painfully follow the team through the lean years. I've sat at Comerica with 15,000 people in great seats and had a blast and I had to go through a broker this year when I was there to get good tickets for an A's/Tigers game. That is ok. If the bandwagon fans or the fans who have passively followed the team now show their support by coming to the stadium that is good for the bottom line. But these fans who ##### and whine and complain about one game in July are atrocious. Cut this guy, trade this guy, fire the coaches. Best one was a thread at a main board were the poster said that Tiger fans overrate Justin Verlander. Unbelievable.

That's just gross.

It gets worse in game threads. Tigers will be up by a run and then the other team gets two in the sixth and the game is over. Season is over (I'm talking July game threads), Leyland is not the man for the job, Dombrowski is an idiot for not trading away two top prospects for Eric Gagne, and Carlos Pena should have been kept without any doubts even though he passed through the Red Sox and Yankees on his way to Tampa and just could not hit. Detroit fans are generally pessimistic by nature but there is no reason to not appreciate a pennant race. It's been 16 years since they were really in a race and more like 19 (not counting last year where they led all year). Injuries hurt the continuity of this team and they just got everyone back a few weeks ago. Tigers do not spend lie the Red Sox or Yankees and the Tribe are having a year like the tigers did a year ago. This isn't hockey or basketball! And therein lies the issue with the bandwagon fans who see the Wings and Pistons make the playoffs every single year. You'd think with the Lions they'd be reasonable, but that's not the case. It's ridiculous and the really good Tiger fans are backed into a corner having to address simple baseball and simple math to a bunch of idiots.

 

[Capella]

Do the Heat draw much? I'm sure the Dolphins do...but it's pretty hard to not pack the seats in the NFL.

I think the Heat draw in the middle of the pack. Phins sell out. Panthers don't draw at all. Hurricanes don't draw unless FSU is there (and it's half FSU fans). Marlins obviously don't as well.Atlanta and Miami are the two worst sports cities in America, imo.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Do the Heat draw much? I'm sure the Dolphins do...but it's pretty hard to not pack the seats in the NFL.

I think the Heat draw in the middle of the pack. Phins sell out. Panthers don't draw at all. Hurricanes don't draw unless FSU is there (and it's half FSU fans). Marlins obviously don't as well.Atlanta and Miami are the two worst sports cities in America, imo.

Agree. Never been to Miami but even when the Canes were awesome they didn't draw well. I've seen baseball and football games in Atlanta and the crowds sucked. Way too corporate for my liking (and that's considering I've been to some Cowboys games, the ultimate corporate event).

 

[Your Mother]

The Marlins should be moved. I'm sorry, I realize the stadium sucks, but there has to be a city somewheres more deserving of a team.

 

[JZilla]

San Francisco at 96% surprises the hell out of me. Tell me again how some ##### from Queens was able to waltz in there and snag Barry's ball?

Had $500 to buy a bleacher seat on craigslist?

Matt Murphy, a 21-year-old student and construction supervisor from New York, emerged from a scuffle with the record-breaking ball after paying $100 for a $12 ticket during a layover on his way to Australia from his hometown.

fetched $750K today... hell of an investment