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You have got to be ####ting me!! (1 Viewer)

This is the part of the story I would like more information on:

Same book? Same gun? Same distance? I'm so curious about this.
Yeah, I find it hard to believe that everything was the same.  We may never know, since it sounds like he did that without her there.

 
Yeah, I find it hard to believe that everything was the same.  We may never know, since it sounds like he did that without her there.
If the book was just sitting on a table or something outside and he shot it, the book may have "absorbed" the shock of the bullet as it likely got shot off the table and went flying.  With him right behind it, the book can't go flying off, so the force of the bullet just propels it farther into the book....and then into him. 

 
Uhh, a simple google search would have alerted them that this was indeed a very bad idea: .50AE Ballistics Gel Test

Let me add that while I own guns and am a supporter of fairly unfettered 2nd Amendment rights, the idea that there is a YouTube channel called "The Wound Channel" is pretty disturbing.  

 
I'm guessing it would take more than a half of foot of paper sheets to stop a large caliber pistol round.  Obviously there would be variance depending on whether the round was jacketed or hollow point and the metal composition of the round.  Me, I would not want to take a chance, I would want a foot of paper between me and a hot handgun load, and two between me and most common rifle rounds.  I think I would want about 5 to eight feet for a 50 cal rifle round.
There was an episode of MacGyver where they were holed up in an embassy under attack and Mac did the calculations for how many sheets of paper to stop a bullet. It was many reams back to back and they used those to plug the window openings.

 
She might not. She lost the father of her children and will have to look them in the eye one day and tell them what happened to their daddy. A decent lawyer could convince a judge that she has and will suffer enough without a jail term. 
I think she should go to jail for the minimum term for whatever degree of manslaughter falls under and with good behavior be paroled when eligible. Stupid isn't an excuse, she shot and killed someone to garner what, internet fame? She needs time in jail not only to reflect on this, but also to let the family of the deceased know this isn't OK and the law has their back. Yes it will be hard on the children and her facing them, but if she serves no time at all for this that is not a good precedent IMO.

 
I'm guessing it would take more than a half of foot of paper sheets to stop a large caliber pistol round.  Obviously there would be variance depending on whether the round was jacketed or hollow point and the metal composition of the round.  Me, I would not want to take a chance, I would want a foot of paper between me and a hot handgun load, and two between me and most common rifle rounds.  I think I would want about 5 to eight feet for a 50 cal rifle round.
Point of clarification:

.50AE is more like a souped up .44 Magnum than it is like .50 BMG (the round the Browning M2 Heavy machine gun and those big-### sniper rifles fire).

The rest of your post is very much correct, however.

 
This is how it went down:

Pedro: That's not a real gun, is it Monalisa?

Monalisa: Are you kidding? This is a Magnum P.I.

Pedro: It's a BB gun!

Monalisa: Don't tempt me. I could put an eye out with this thing.

Pedro: You couldn't even break the skin with that thing.

Monalisa: Yeah I could. It could lodge in the skin and cause a very bad infection.

Pedro: That's an old wive's tale Monalisa. I'm telling you. [Holds up the book; Monalisa fires the pistol; Pedro groans in pain and dies]

Monalisa: See I told you. I warned you.

 
Point of clarification:

.50AE is more like a souped up .44 Magnum than it is like .50 BMG (the round the Browning M2 Heavy machine gun and those big-### sniper rifles fire).

The rest of your post is very much correct, however.
He's not saying this was a 50 cal rifle round.

 
I don't think she deserves any jail time if the video clearly shows he was complicit with the stunt and if the gun was legally owned and discharged in a legal location. Incredibly moronic from both parties but I don't see a crime here if the above conditions are met. 

If my friend wanted to videotape a stunt jumping over my car while I'm driving and he misses and I run him over did I commit a crime? That stunt has been performed a lot and I'm sure, among many, where people die and others helped with the stunt.

Cant think of any examples off the top of my head but I will search for some.

 
I think she should go to jail for the minimum term for whatever degree of manslaughter falls under and with good behavior be paroled when eligible. Stupid isn't an excuse, she shot and killed someone to garner what, internet fame? She needs time in jail not only to reflect on this, but also to let the family of the deceased know this isn't OK and the law has their back. Yes it will be hard on the children and her facing them, but if she serves no time at all for this that is not a good precedent IMO.
I agree. I'm fairly opposed to a lot of the gun laws that get proposed these days. But the flip side of that is that people ABSOLUTELY are 100% responsible for how they use their guns. If you have a gun and somebody innocent gets hurt or killed because of your negligence, in my mind there is little difference between incredible negligence and malicious intent when it comes to something like this. Guns are incredible dangerous. If you can't respect that enough to keep from shooting someone innocent, then you belong in prison. If you accept the responsibility of owning a gun, you accept the full repercussions of that.

I feel the same about DUIs. Punishing someone for having a certain BAC is dumb. But folks who cause damage or death and have a certain BAC should be punished severely. Again, not much difference in my mind between reckless negligence and intent. If you are so recklessly negligent that you get tanked and kill someone after getting behind the wheel, then you belong in prison for the rest of your life.

 
Update: pleaded guilty and will be spending some time in jail

The YouTube stunt meant to rocket Pedro Ruiz III to internet fame killed him instead. Now his girlfriend will serve jail time for her part in his video-recorded death.

Twenty-year-old Monalisa Perez has pleaded guilty to fatally shooting Ruiz on June 26 as cameras rolled outside their northwestern Minnesota home.

She entered her plea last week in Norman County District Court. The plea agreement calls for her to spend 180 days in jail. Also, Perez cannot "make any financial compensation" from the recording of Ruiz's death and is "banned from possessing firearms for the rest of her life," the prosecution's court filing read.

Perez, who has two small children with Ruiz, will serve her six-month term 30 days per year for the next three years and then become eligible to serve the balance on electronic home monitoring, as long as she abides by the terms of her 10-year supervised probation.

A sentencing date in February is anticipated, Norman County Attorney James Brue said Tuesday.

Brue said he met with a sister of Ruiz and a number of aunts on Oct. 26, and "we talked about this proposed agreement, and they indicated that they were in support of it."

Perez could have received up to a 10-year term combining six or more years in prison and supervised release, but a sentence that long would have been unlikely.

Two cameras captured the fatal stunt at the couple's house in Halstad.

Authorities say Ruiz, 22, held a hardcover encyclopedia against his chest, and Perez stood barely a foot away and squeezed off a shot from a .50-caliber Desert Eagle pistol, to see whether the bullet would go through the book.

Perez was pregnant at the time and their 3-year-old daughter was nearby.

The bullet pierced the book, and Ruiz fell mortally wounded. Perez called 911.

I continue to struggle to wrap my head around the reality that this actually friggin happened. Jeezus Harold Christ  :loco:

 

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