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Youk throws his helmet at Porcello like a little girl (1 Viewer)

I just saw the espn hilights and in my opinion the pitcher (porcelo) looked scared out of his mind. Backing up with fear in his eyes, pleading his case with Youk. He just happened to get a hold of Youk and used his momentum against him.

I can't stand the Sox, but I can't stand anything in Detroit!

 
Once again, Keith Law is the voice of reason:

Youkilis, umpires at fault in Tigers-Red Sox brawl

There are two real culprits in this Tigers-Red Sox mess, when a brawl broke out in the bottom of the second. First is Kevin Youkilis, who showed once again that he can't keep his emotions in check by charging the mound without a moment of hesitation after he was hit by a pitch. Tigers starter Rick Porcello backed off and raised his hands as if to ask why Youkilis was rushing the mound. Those of us in the scouts' seats had the same reaction. Porcello looked like he was in for a dominant outing, sitting 91-94 with great sinking life, and had a three-run lead.

He had a win in his sights; was he really throwing at Youkilis, or was it another two-seamer that ran too far to his arm side? Youkilis had probably already decided he wanted some pretense for charging the mound (maybe to get Porcello out of the game?) and he should be suspended for acting like a fool.

The other culprit is the umpiring crew, and while some responsibility has to fall on home plate umpire Brian O'Nora, it's time MLB took a more serious look at Tuesday's first base ump and crew chief, Jerry Crawford.

This is Crawford's second major incident of the month, after Friday's egregious blown call and subsequent outburst against Arizona manager A.J. Hinch. While Crawford has yet to sink that low during this game -- the night is still young as I type this -- the crew's decision to toss Porcello after he hit one batter with a three-run lead and no warning in effect was incompetence at best and cowing to a hostile Fenway crowd at worst. Crawford's involvement in two on-field blowups, both featuring bad umpiring decisions, calls into question his fitness to umpire major league games, especially ones with playoff implications like Tuesday's.

Youkilis was the fifth batter plunked in this series through 10-plus innings. Miguel Cabrera was hit twice, once in each game, although Junichi Tazawa was struggling badly with his command and almost certainly didn't intend to hit Cabrera, while Brad Penny most likely did mean to hit him the night before. To suddenly decide "that's enough" after Porcello hit Youkilis without any prior warning reeks of pandering to the home crowd. Even if that wasn't a factor, it showed very poor judgment on the part of Crawford and his crew.
:unsure: Except for the deliberately trying to get Porcello out of the game speculation.
 
Although entertaining, it doesn't compare with Robin Ventura charging Nolan Ryan or Bert Campaneris throwing his bat at a pitcher.

 
Tiger fans are yukking it up today on The Ticket about the way Porcello slammed a charging Youk down then ended up on top of him in the pile. A pitiful mound rush by Youk.

 
Tiger fans are yukking it up today on The Ticket about the way Porcello slammed a charging Youk down then ended up on top of him in the pile. A pitiful mound rush by Youk.
Not since Ventura vs. Ryan have we seen a more embarrassing mound rush.
The worst part about it is that Youk had Porcello completely off-guard and off-balance with the helmet throw, Porcello certainly didn't look like he wanted to fight at all, and yet somehow Youkilis ended up getting throw to the ground. The way Porcello initially reacted from the beginning of the charge through after the helmet through when Youkilis had him wrapped up, there was no moment in which I expected Youkilis to be unable to take down Porcello. It should have been an easy takedown. And then Porcello brings the total reversal, which was awesome.
 
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Did this Boston writer see the same fight????

Things picked up after takedown

By Dan Shaughnessy

Globe Columnist / August 12, 2009

Kevin Youkilis took a first-pitch fastball in the back, hesitated for a split second, then made a bull rush for 20-year-old Tiger pitcher Rick Porcello. The kid righty was backpedaling when a sprinting Youk flung his helmet at him, then wrapped him up and wrestled him to the ground like a baby calf.

 
I just saw the espn hilights and in my opinion the pitcher (porcelo) looked scared out of his mind. Backing up with fear in his eyes, pleading his case with Youk. He just happened to get a hold of Youk and used his momentum against him. I can't stand the Sox, but I can't stand anything in Detroit!
Youkalis is a roided up lunatic running full speed at a skinny 20 year old. How the #### would you look?
 
Did this Boston writer see the same fight????

Things picked up after takedown

By Dan Shaughnessy

Globe Columnist / August 12, 2009

Kevin Youkilis took a first-pitch fastball in the back, hesitated for a split second, then made a bull rush for 20-year-old Tiger pitcher Rick Porcello. The kid righty was backpedaling when a sprinting Youk flung his helmet at him, then wrapped him up and wrestled him to the ground like a baby calf.
:crazy: Are all people from N.E. this stupid and/or myopic?

Also, last night Peter Gammons was applauding the umps handling of the ejections.

 
Did this Boston writer see the same fight????

Things picked up after takedown

By Dan Shaughnessy

Globe Columnist / August 12, 2009

Kevin Youkilis took a first-pitch fastball in the back, hesitated for a split second, then made a bull rush for 20-year-old Tiger pitcher Rick Porcello. The kid righty was backpedaling when a sprinting Youk flung his helmet at him, then wrapped him up and wrestled him to the ground like a baby calf.
:lmao: Are all people from N.E. this stupid and/or myopic?

Also, last night Peter Gammons was applauding the umps handling of the ejections.
There was a lot of "Youk gets hit a lot he's just standing up for himself" talk today. I thought it was kinda funny. Even Youk came out after and was pretty straightforward about how stupid he thought it was.
 
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Is there a debate Porcello didn't do it on purpose? He threw it at his back. Miggy has been hit twice in the series. Granted, in this game the pitch that hit him didn't look to be on purpose, but I think it's enough to know Porcello was throwing at Youk.
Really hard to know, imo. Sox announcers are divided on it. Personally, I don't think he was. If he was, he did a piss-poor job of it.It's a lot to expect from 20 year olds, but they have to know the situation there. With prior events, hitting Youk in the middle of the back was bound to get the attention of the umps. Of course, Youk overreacted a tad.... but you have to consider the night before as well as tonight.
Are they divided on if YOOOUUKK is an ugly chick, or just a cowardly dude?
Lots of whining from Detroit fans. Try to suck it up and carry on.
Don't get pissed cuz you got swept by the Yankees.
I guess its better than getting swept by the NFL.
 
I just saw the espn hilights and in my opinion the pitcher (porcelo) looked scared out of his mind. Backing up with fear in his eyes, pleading his case with Youk. He just happened to get a hold of Youk and used his momentum against him. I can't stand the Sox, but I can't stand anything in Detroit!
Not really, imo he just didn't want to fight ON the mound, where the hitter has the advantage...and even if he was scared, he gets points for the slam. Porcello gets the WIN, if this were wrestling...Most likely, it happened so fast, he didn't know what to friggin do for a few seconds, and once fight overcame flight, he made Youk toss his salad, so to speak.
 
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Really hard to know, imo. Sox announcers are divided on it. Personally, I don't think he was. If he was, he did a piss-poor job of it.

It's a lot to expect from 20 year olds, but they have to know the situation there. With prior events, hitting Youk in the middle of the back was bound to get the attention of the umps. Of course, Youk overreacted a tad.... but you have to consider the night before as well as tonight.
Are they divided on if YOOOUUKK is an ugly chick, or just a cowardly dude?
Lots of whining from Detroit fans. Try to suck it up and carry on.
Don't get pissed cuz you got swept by the Yankees.
I guess its better than getting swept by the NFL.
Compelling baseball argument professor.
 
I just saw the espn hilights and in my opinion the pitcher (porcelo) looked scared out of his mind. Backing up with fear in his eyes, pleading his case with Youk. He just happened to get a hold of Youk and used his momentum against him. I can't stand the Sox, but I can't stand anything in Detroit!
Not really, imo he just didn't want to fight ON the mound, where the hitter has the advantage...and even if he was scared, he gets points for the slam. Porcello gets the WIN, if this were wrestling...Most likely, it happened so fast, he didn't know what to friggin do for a few seconds, and once fight overcame flight, he made Youk toss his salad, so to speak.
It's pretty clear the kid was scared. Not that I blame him in the least. I don't think he was intentionally throwing at him so the charge was pretty unexpected and if you're not ready for it I can imagine it to be scary...especially coming from a good sized guy like Youkilis. The kid is only 20...of course he's going to be spooked.But once Youk tackled him the kid just owned the guy. Pretty awesome to see that dbag get tossed to the ground.Also, baseball rules are B.S. in this regard. You have to fight if you're charged...and you get tossed even if you didn't initiate things.
 
Tiger fans are yukking it up today on The Ticket about the way Porcello slammed a charging Youk down then ended up on top of him in the pile. A pitiful mound rush by Youk.
Not since Ventura vs. Ryan have we seen a more embarrassing mound rush.
Chan Ho Park karate kick down?BTW, I thought Youk threw like a girl and Porcello had a takedown that would make some UFC fighters proud.
I am pretty sure the guy that Kyle Farnsworth planted into the ground would have to make this list also.
 
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I am pretty sure the guy that Kyle Farnsworth planted into the ground would have to make this list also.
Best thing Farnsworth ever did as a Tiger.
:goodposting: Wasn't that as a Cub vs. Reds pitcher Paul Wilson or did he have one of these instances as a Tiger too?
Cubs
Farnsworth also bodyslammed a player in a brawl as a tiger: link
Affeldt
 
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Did this Boston writer see the same fight????

Things picked up after takedown

By Dan Shaughnessy

Globe Columnist / August 12, 2009

Kevin Youkilis took a first-pitch fastball in the back, hesitated for a split second, then made a bull rush for 20-year-old Tiger pitcher Rick Porcello. The kid righty was backpedaling when a sprinting Youk flung his helmet at him, then wrapped him up and wrestled him to the ground like a baby calf.
:blackdot: :lmao: This is what cracks me up about the Boston thing.
 
Let's not forget that Varitek shoved that A-Rod lady in the face while wearing his catchers mask.

This stuff isn't new for the Sox.

 

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