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Keeper league I think you are going to have draft him right alongside or just after wherever Cain, Gallardo and that tier are going in your league to guarantee you get him. If you wait another round or two, he might be gone. In a non keeper I think he falls down into the Latos, Garza tier but he is hype training is going strong and his spring training is doing nothing to stop it. If you want him, jump a round a head of where you think he will get picked. Otherwise just hope he falls, though he probably won't.
what about in a league where cain and gallardo are being kept, and the best pitchers available would be kennedy, romero, hudson, and darvish types. while the best hitters available are bruce or pence. i have the 1st pick (equivalent to a 6th round) and im so tempted to reach for moore
Depends on the keeper rules... If you draft Moore, do you get to keep him, how long etc? If it is a dynasty type league, I might just pull the trigger on Moore if I believed in him that much. He probably won't give you 200 IP this year, I would guess something like 180 IP, 14 wins 3.2 ERA, 180+ Ks is what you are hoping for if you draft him. But don't be surprised if he is 160 IP, 12 wins, 3.5 ERA, young pitchers are a crap shoot.I would probably have a tough time picking him over Bruce. For pitchers, atleast for this year I think Kennedy is a step above him, Romero and Hudson are probably his level in a good scenario. Once again though if you believe in him, pull the trigger because if it is a keeper, in 2-3 years you will be kicking yourself if he turns into Kershaw type pitcher. I took Lawrie in my keeper league which is keeper 4 and took him in the 6th round (equivalent 2nd round pick) just because I would rather be in on the ground floor and don't want a player I believe in not on my team if he breaks out. It is a balancing act between playing for this year and the future. I certainly think Kennedy, Bruce, Pence will provide more value than Moore will this year but if you really like Moore and don't think you can get him next round, then pull the trigger.
AND YOU SHOULD'shadyridr said:
He went 8.01 in a 10 team, 6 player keeper yesterday(so this pick is really with 60 players out of the pool from later rounds). The 8th is the earliest possible round he could have been kept. Each owner would have taken him in that round had he not gone with that first pick. I missed on Bauer yesterday, but got Shelby in the 28th so thats not a terrible consolation.
There's no reaching for a keeper that they are calling the lefthanded Strasburg (but without the violent delivery). I'm taking him first round in an AL only keeper league. Pujols, Fielder, Darvish then me taking Moore.
Getting roughed up a bit in the spring. Looking more and more like he will start the year in AAA.
I haven't been following him too closely this spring, but I think most Nats fans (myself included) were expecting him to start in AAA this year if he was not traded, and get called up in June or so. He moved up the ranks pretty quickly last year. He was in AA most of the year, and was only in AAA for a couple of months before getting called up in September. He only had a couple of appearances then. So, he could probably use a bit more seasoning at the AAA level.
When you said you were out of the loop, I didn't think you meant 2 years out of the loop...
For keeper/dynasty I think I prefer Paxton.I'm keeping an eye on Drabek. If he's got his control issues worked out he could be quite a nice value in deep leagues.
Hultzen generally more highly regarded but you can't ignore Paxton's k numbers.Drabek is a real good one.
It's way too early to know for sure about Drabek, but he was absolutely brutal last year, even when he went back to the minors.
As a Jay fan, I'm taking Henderson Alvarez way before Drabek for now and the future. Good articles today about Alvarez in Toronto Sun and Toronto Star, he's basically the Jays #3 starter already.
Aroldis is starting? I need to start digging deeper...
Drabek just lost it last year, I'll be following him closely to see if he got mentally rehabbed. And Paxton's BB #'s give Hultzen a big leg up imho
Falling in love with a Rockies pitcher is like falling in love with a former porn star.'Arsenal of Doom said:
I meant he was a good one to mention in this thread. People writing him off or loving a pitcher who has never thrown a major league pitch more have it all wrong IMO, young pitchers are extremely difficult to gauge in their first 200 innings or so. Drabek doesn't have the velocity to be a premium fantasy pitcher but right now he has absolutely brutal control so it doesn't really matter. However, he could easily work out his problems and quickly become a reliable middle of the rotation guy. I don't think he has the upside of a Hultzen but then again Drabek was a top 20 prospect a few years ago himself...things are always changing with young pitchers.'MAC_32 said:
I guess he could be a decent buy since I'm sure you can literally get him for next to nothing, but from a fantasy perspective he doesn't hold much upside for it to be worth it imo. Middling K/9, poor K/BB, poor WHIP. In his best case scenario, I only see Drabek providing above average value in ERA, he'll probably be average to below average in WHIP/K's, and Wins are a crapshoot obviously. As a Jays fan I'm hoping for the best from the kid, but I struggle envisioning him being anything but a bust at this point.
Drabek doesn't have a big league job when the Jays head north, even if McGowan isn't ready to go. He's not rosterable in all but the deepest league. See how his command holds up in Las Vegas (factoring in the PCL) and see if a rotation slot opens up.
I don't see the problem!
Coors is a top 5 hitters park, but there isn't much difference post-humidor from Coors and the other usual suspects - Arlington, Chase, Yankee Stadium, Fenway. Players like Jason Hammel and Jorge De La Rosa have posted decent fantasy seasons in the last 3 years, and when Ubaldo was right he was top 10 caliber. Chacin was major contributor his rookie season, and both Nicasio and Pomeranz have a similar profile. Don't shy away from these guys because of where they pitch.
I'd give him serious look.
I've owned Sale in dynasty since he was drafted but I wouldn't reach for him this year. He'll probably have to deal with IP and Pitch count limits and the White Sox won't be very good. He has good stuff and a odd delivery so he should provide decent strikeouts but his ratios are anybody's guess. I plan to use him in a spot starter role.
Depends on the league. Standard 5x5 mixed roto with a small IP limit and he could be gold. H2H, roto's with categories like QS, leagues without IP limits, etc. and he might not be. I think he's going to be good. Real good. But in some leagues you could extract similar value from 2 MR's.
Shelby Miller?
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