Your prediction for each division's year end standings. (1 Viewer)

[Andy Dufresne]

I wasn't able to find a thread about this for this year. If there is one, sorry. Let this one die then. Update your predictions through camp & preseason games, but not after the season starts.

AFC East

New England

Buffalo

NY Jets

Miami

AFC North

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Cincinnati

Cleveland

AFC South

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Houston

Tennessee

AFC West

San Diego

Denver

Oakland

Kansas City

NFC East

Dallas

Washington

Philadelphia

NY Giants

NFC North

Chicago

Detroit

Green Bay

Minnesota

NFC South

New Orleans

Carolina

Tampa

Atlanta

NFC West

St. Louis

Seattle

San Francisco

Arizona

 

[code]

Not the same, but some related information here:

AFC's Best

NFC's Best

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Nobody? Really?

 

[Skino]

AFC East

New England

Buffalo

NY Jets

Miami

AFC North

Cincinnati

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Cleveland

AFC South

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Tennessee

Houston

AFC West

Denver

San Diego

Kansas City

Oakland

NFC East

Dallas

Philadelphia

NY Giants

Washington

NFC North

Chicago

Detroit

Green Bay

Minnesota

NFC South

New Orleans

Carolina

Tampa

Atlanta

NFC West

Seattle

St. Louis

San Francisco

Arizona

I like your rankings Andy, really just a few differences that I see. I like Seattle to get in gear again this year despite how strong St. Louis looks with S. Jackson becoming an animal last year which should balance the offense and give that passing game more breathing room for the bigger plays. I like Cincinnati and Denver more on gut feelings and the talent they have even though there isn't a whole lot of evidence that they will pass the likes of Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and San Diego.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

NE***

NYJ

Mia

Buff

Pitt***

Cincy***

Balt

Cleve

Indy***

Jax

Tenn

Hou

SD***

Den***

Oak

KC

Dallas***

Philly***

NYG

Was

Chi***

Det

GB

Minn

Car***

NO***

TB

ATL

STL***

Sea

SF

Arz

 

[Andy Dufresne]

People are still high on Cincinnati, eh? I think their defense will be a wreck and the offense will not be good enough to compensate.

St. Louis is my pick for NFC Champion this year.

I also think the Redskins are better than people think. But the Giants are much worse than people think too.

The NFC Wildcards - Washington & Seattle

The AFC Wildcards - Denver & Baltimore

NFC Champion - St. Louis

AFC Champion - New England

Super Bowl Champions - New England

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I wasn't able to find a thread about this for this year. If there is one, sorry. Let this one die then. Update your predictions through camp & preseason games, but not after the season starts.

AFC East

New England

Buffalo

NY Jets

Miami

AFC North

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Cincinnati

Cleveland

AFC South

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Houston

Tennessee

AFC West

San Diego

Denver

Oakland

Kansas City

NFC East

Dallas

Washington

Philadelphia

NY Giants

NFC North

Chicago

Detroit

Green Bay

Minnesota

NFC South

New Orleans

Carolina

Tampa

Atlanta

NFC West

St. Louis

Seattle

San Francisco

Arizona

Wow, I'd love to hear your reasoning behind NYJ being behind Buffalo and Philly behind WAS. Even without McNabb, they're better than the Skins.The rest is pretty much in line as I see it (including StL winning the West).

 

[thesurfshop19]

AFC East: Patriots (D), Bills, Jets, Dolphins

AFC North: Steelers (D), Bengals (WC), Ravens, Browns

AFC South: Colts (D), Titans, Jaguars, Texans

AFC West: Broncos (D) , Chargers (WC), Raiders, Chiefs

NFC East: Cowboys (D), Giants (WC), Redskins, Eagles

NFC North: Bears (D), Lions (WC), Packers, Vikings

NFC South: Saints (D), Falcons, Panthers, Buccaneers

NFC West: Cardinals (D), Seahawks, 49ers, Rams

My picks are terrible, for the record.

 

[Jayrod]

AFC East

New England

NY Jets

Buffalo

Miami

AFC North

Baltimore

Cincinnati

Pittsburgh

Cleveland

AFC South

Indianapolis

Jacksonville - WC

Houston

Tennessee

AFC West

Denver

San Diego - WC

Kansas City

Oakland

NFC East

Dallas

Philadelphia - WC

NY Giants

Washington

NFC North

Chicago

Green Bay

Detroit

Minnesota

NFC South

New Orleans

Carolina - WC

Tampa Bay

Atlanta

NFC West

St. Louis

Seattle

Arizona

San Francisco

I'm much more confident in my AFC picks than my NFC ones. I think the NFC East & West are total crapshoots at this point. Any team in either of those divisions could win their division. The West is just a pile of goo with the winner being whoever sucks the least, IMO. Weakest division in football (still). A couple of teams will emerge as solid contenders out of the East....I just have no idea who at this point.

One pick I love and am sticking to is Denver winning the AFC West over San Diego. I think they will emerge with New England and Indy as the cream of the crop this year. I wouldn't be surprised if they won 13 games this year (yes, even with 2nd yr QB Cutler). Their defense has improved with Dre Bly opposite Champ, they've used early draft picks the last few years on the D-line and their LB's are always solid. Add in Cutler is in his second year with a new solid starting RB in T-Henry and their offense has improved as well. I think they could make it to the AFC Championship game this year (where they would lose to NE).

 

[NorrisB]

AFCN:

Bengals

Ravens

Browns

Steelers

 

[amphibianbri]

Here's my best shot:

AFC East

New England - best team in AFC this year

NY Jets** - Year 2 of Mangini = wild card spot

Buffalo - getting better....next year they fight for W.C.

Miami - bad....D getting old, and 37 yr old QB not answer

AFC North

Baltimore - got younger at RB, Clayton steps up, and D slides a little w/loss of Thomas, but not a ton

PIttsburgh - Tomlin gets them back nearly into playoffs....BIg Ben gets to throw it more

Cincinnati - not enough offense even though they score the most in the nfl to offset the defensive woes

Cleveland - too young

AFC South

Indianapolis - the champs aren't going anywhere, but they'll have to go to NE for AFC title game this time

Tennessee - up and coming team - b jones breaks out as v young's fav receiver

Houston - defense keeps them in games and having a running game and sharp QB gets them to .500

Jacksonville - I think QB position will be a problem and cause losses of close games

AFC West

San Diego - even Turner can't mess this up in the regular season

Denver** - good defense, improvement at QB and RB = dangerous team

Oakland - still bad

Kansas City - yuck

NFC East

Philadelphia - solid enough all around to win this.....even if McNabb misses a couple of games

Dallas** - romo's the key......not quite consistent enough to overtake philly this year

Washington - big $$ does not = wins

NY Giants - Jacobs does not = Tiki

NFC North

Chicago - D at full strength wins this division by default

Detroit - can score but can't stop enough

Green Bay - improving d , but Favre has no one besides Driver

Minnesota - I don't believe in T. Jackson

NFC South

New Orleans - offense will carry them through division

Carolina - defense gets back to top 10 status, delhomme goes back to managing game

Tampa - can you win games averaging 15 pts per game with an older D?

Atlanta -

NFC West

St. Louis - can score enough to win and D can make the occasional big play

San Francisco** - look for drastic offensive improvement with development of A. SMith and Davis, D. Jax nice add, D underrated

Seattle - Alexander not healthy still and Branch is not a #1 receiver

Arizona - getting better....might be able to catch Seattle, but 3rd place doesn't win you anything

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Wow, I'd love to hear your reasoning behind NYJ being behind Buffalo and Philly behind WAS. Even without McNabb, they're better than the Skins.

The rest is pretty much in line as I see it (including StL winning the West).

NYJ < BuffaloI think that both are teams on the rise and will finish within a game of each other.

The Jets - I think that the Jets' run last year was a bit of smoke & mirrors and I expect them to take a small step back from last year, primarily because I don't like their defense. The defensive line is unimpressive and they'll likely be starting a rookie at one of the corner positions. Last year's wins against Tennessee, Miami (twice), Detroit, Houtson, Green Bay, Minnesota, and Oakland inflated the win column relative to their skill level.

The Bills - I think the offense will really surprise people. Lynch will be a much better back than McGahee was in their system and the Losman to Lee combination will be better than last year. The defensive line really hurt them last year, but the play was more due to injury than lack of ability. I think Clements is overrated and Posluszny is this year's DeMeco Ryans.

Philly < Washington

The Eagles - Quite simply, I hate their defense (especially the linebackers) and don't think McNabb will recover from injury as quickly as most people think/hope.

The Redskins - I have an unhealthy man-crush on Jason Campbell and I think Portis will be a top 5-ish back again this year. Their defense isn't much to write home about, but the addition of Laron Landry and, yes, the return of Smoot in a nickle role should help out.

 

[BGP]

Well looks like Crennel is fired then. Either Cowher or Schottenheimer will probably coach the club in 2008.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Well looks like Crennel is fired then. Either Cowher or Schottenheimer will probably coach the club in 2008.

That's an awfully tough division for them to win.

 

[BGP]

Well looks like Crennel is fired then. Either Cowher or Schottenheimer will probably coach the club in 2008.

That's an awfully tough division for them to win.

I don't think he must win the division, but he likely needs to finish at least 8-8 to survive.

 

[butcher boy]

A lot of people seem to be underrating the 49ers. How can they end up 3rd or last in the division when they end up going 11-5? They were already one of the most improved teams last year, and they had one of the best if not THE best offseason in terms of acquiring new personnel, especially on defense. If they can nab Simeon Rice, watch out.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

A lot of people seem to be underrating the 49ers. How can they end up 3rd or last in the division when they end up going 11-5? They were already one of the most improved teams last year, and they had one of the best if not THE best offseason in terms of acquiring new personnel, especially on defense. If they can nab Simeon Rice, watch out.

Because even if the talent is as good as advertised, it takes a while to fashion it into a team.I think they WAY overpaid for Clements and he won't have the impact they were hoping even though he is an upgrade to what was there before. And Darrell Jackson just cannot stay healthy.However, I did almost put them ahead of Seattle, yet still behind St. Louis.Next year, watch out for this team.

 

[Pittsburgh United]

AFC North

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Cincinnati

Cleveland

 

[Pittsburgh United]

People are still high on Cincinnati, eh? I think their defense will be a wreck and the offense will not be good enough to compensate.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

AFCN:Bengals Ravens Browns Steelers

 

[Jayrod]

AFCN:

Bengals

Ravens

Browns

Steelers

Last year, this would have gotten the same reaction:NFC South

New Orleans

Carolina

Atlanta

Tampa Bay

 

[Pittsburgh United]

AFC East

New England

NY Jets

Buffalo

Miami

AFC North

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Cincinnati

Cleveland

AFC South

Indianapolis

Houston

Tennessee

Jacksonville

AFC West

San Diego

Denver

Kansas City

Oakland

NFC East

Dallas

Philadelphia

Washington

NY Giants

NFC North

Chicago

Green Bay

Detroit

Minnesota

NFC South

New Orleans

Carolina

Tampa Bay

Atlanta

NFC West

St. Louis

San Francisco

Arizona

Seattle

 

[LHUCKS]

 

[patrickmcgroin]

AFC East

New England

NY Jets

Buffalo

Miami

AFC North

Cincinnati

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Cleveland

AFC South

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Houston

Tennessee

AFC West

San Diego

Denver

Oakland

Kansas City

NFC East

Dallas

Philadelphia

Washington

NY Giants

NFC North

Chicago

Detroit

Minnesota

Green Bay

NFC South

Carolina

New Orleans

Tampa

Atlanta

NFC West

St. Louis

Seattle

Arizona

San Francisco

 

[Mungo Burrows]

AFC EAST

Patriots

Jets

Bills

Dolphins

AFC NORTH

Ravens

Steelers

Bengals

Browns

AFC SOUTH

Colts

Jags

Texans

Titans

AFC WEST

Chargers

Broncos

Raiders

Cheifs

NFC EAST

Eagles

Redskins

Cowboys

Giants

NFC NORTH

Bears

Packers

Lions

Vikings

NFC SOUTH

Panthers

Saints

Bucs

Falcons

NFC WEST

Seahawks

49ers

Rams

Cardinals

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Care to contribute?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Seems that people are expecting a Panther resurgence as well?

Anyone care to elaborate why?

 

[Jayrod]

Seems that people are expecting a Panther resurgence as well?Anyone care to elaborate why?

Four games against Tampa Bay and Atlanta.

 

[BGP]

Well let's try the Yudkin maneuver:

This year more than any other I'm seeing the same teams picked to make the playoffs. Moreso than in other seasons, people are taking the teams that won last year and are plugging them into this year's playoffs. And I don't just mean the teams that made the playoffs from last year but the ones that didn't with strong records last year as well (MIA, KC, KC, DAL).Looking at the past 9 years, there have been at least 3 teams that made the playoffs that had losing records the season before. (In 1996, there were only 2 teams with losing records in 1995 that made the playoffs.)2005: CHI, CAR, NYG, WAS2004: SD, ATL, PIT, NYJ2003: BAL, KC, DAL, STL, SEA2002: TEN, IND, ATL, NYG2001: NE, CHI, SF2000: DEN, NYG, PHI, NO1999: IND, WAS, STL, DET1998: BUF, DAL, ARI, ATL1997: NYJ, NYG, TB, DETIn looking at expert picks, magazine picks, media picks, FBG board picks, etc. I have not practically NO ONE takng teams that had a losing record last year. The possible exception is BAL, as I have seen a few people picking them.If you had to take 3 teams to make this year's post-season that were sub-.500 last year, who would they be?CLE, BAL, TEN, HOU, BUF, NYJ, OAK, NO, DET, GB, PHI, STL, ARI, SF

We can add:2006: BAL, NYJ, NO, PHISo, for 2007, select 3 teams to make the playoffs among those that had losing records in 2006. That list is:HOU, CLE, BUF, MIA, OAK, ATL, TAM, MIN, DET, WAS, SFO, ARZ-------------Interesting that Andy Aufresne only picked 1 losing club to make it (WAS) and Bicycle Seat Sniffer predicted 0 to do so. On the other hand, 2006 WAS unusual in that we had a whopping EIGHT clubs finish at 8-8. Dufresne has 8-8 PIT and STL making it. BSS has 8-8 PIT, CIN, CAR, and STL all making it.-------------I consider the mass 8-8 cluster a factor and just pick 2 losing clubs to make it myself:TAM and SFO.My picks:AFCE: NWEAFCN: CINAFCS: INDAFCW: SDGWild cards: JAX, BALNFCE: PHINFCN: CHINFCS: CARNFCW: STLWild Cards: TAM, SFO

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Seems that people are expecting a Panther resurgence as well?Anyone care to elaborate why?

Four games against Tampa Bay and Atlanta.

Hmmm... Their schedule IS really softSt. Louis Houston @Atlanta Tampa Bay @New Orleans @Arizona Indianapolis @Tennessee Atlanta @Green Bay New Orleans San Francisco @Jacksonville Seattle Dallas @Tampa Bay But I have a hard time putting them ahead of New Orleans (who thought we'd ever say that!? ).

 

[Pittsburgh United]

Seems that people are expecting a Panther resurgence as well?

Anyone care to elaborate why?

I think Carolina will finish ahead of TB and Atlanta only because TB and Atlanta are really bad teams. In another division, Carolina could easily be in the cellar (NFC West or East).

 

[ImTheScientist]

AFC East

New England

Buffalo

NY Jets

Miami

AFC North

Cincinnati

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Cleveland

AFC South

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Houston

Tennessee

AFC West

San Diego

Denver

Oakland

Kansas City

NFC East

Philadelphia

Dallas

Washington

NY Giants

NFC North

Chicago

Detroit

Green Bay

Minnesota

NFC South

Carolina

New Orleans

Tampa

Atlanta

NFC West

San Francisco

St. Louis

Seattle

Arizona

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Well let's try the Yudkin maneuver:

This year more than any other I'm seeing the same teams picked to make the playoffs. Moreso than in other seasons, people are taking the teams that won last year and are plugging them into this year's playoffs. And I don't just mean the teams that made the playoffs from last year but the ones that didn't with strong records last year as well (MIA, KC, KC, DAL).Looking at the past 9 years, there have been at least 3 teams that made the playoffs that had losing records the season before. (In 1996, there were only 2 teams with losing records in 1995 that made the playoffs.)2005: CHI, CAR, NYG, WAS2004: SD, ATL, PIT, NYJ2003: BAL, KC, DAL, STL, SEA2002: TEN, IND, ATL, NYG2001: NE, CHI, SF2000: DEN, NYG, PHI, NO1999: IND, WAS, STL, DET1998: BUF, DAL, ARI, ATL1997: NYJ, NYG, TB, DETIn looking at expert picks, magazine picks, media picks, FBG board picks, etc. I have not practically NO ONE takng teams that had a losing record last year. The possible exception is BAL, as I have seen a few people picking them.If you had to take 3 teams to make this year's post-season that were sub-.500 last year, who would they be?CLE, BAL, TEN, HOU, BUF, NYJ, OAK, NO, DET, GB, PHI, STL, ARI, SF

We can add:2006: BAL, NYJ, NO, PHISo, for 2007, select 3 teams to make the playoffs among those that had losing records in 2006. That list is:HOU, CLE, BUF, MIA, OAK, ATL, TAM, MIN, DET, WAS, SFO, ARZ-------------Interesting that Andy Aufresne only picked 1 losing club to make it (WAS) and Bicycle Seat Sniffer predicted 0 to do so. On the other hand, 2006 WAS unusual in that we had a whopping EIGHT clubs finish at 8-8. Dufresne has 8-8 PIT and STL making it. BSS has 8-8 PIT, CIN, CAR, and STL all making it.

Without looking at it too hard, I'd say that the teams with losing records from the previous season rarely go lights out in making the playoffs the following year but instead just squeak in. Therefore it's difficult to justify predicting which losing team will make the playoffs.If I HAD to pick three teams from that list to make it, I would take Washington, San Francisco and Buffalo.

 

[Jayrod]

Why is everyone so down on Baltimore? I keep seeing them as #3 behind CIN & PIT.

Is it just because their old vets are all a year older?

 

[BGP]

Seems that people are expecting a Panther resurgence as well?Anyone care to elaborate why?

Four games against Tampa Bay and Atlanta.

Hmmm... Their schedule IS really softSt. Louis Houston @Atlanta Tampa Bay @New Orleans @Arizona Indianapolis @Tennessee Atlanta @Green Bay New Orleans San Francisco @Jacksonville Seattle Dallas @Tampa Bay But I have a hard time putting them ahead of New Orleans (who thought we'd ever say that!? ).

On the other hand, Yudkin's info might suggest the Saints only did so well because they went 3-13 in 2005 and had a softer schedule. They wer ea 1st place team, and now draw the Bears / Eagles / Seahawks. Plus, they only won 10 a year ago. Maybe they lose one more, win 9, and that's just not enough.

 

[BGP]

Why is everyone so down on Baltimore? I keep seeing them as #3 behind CIN & PIT.Is it just because their old vets are all a year older?

I think there are a lot more questions around PIT than BAL.

 

[Pittsburgh United]

Why is everyone so down on Baltimore? I keep seeing them as #3 behind CIN & PIT.Is it just because their old vets are all a year older?

No, it's probably more likely because the majority of AFC North posters here are either Pittsburgh or Cincy .

 

[BGP]

Well let's try the Yudkin maneuver:

This year more than any other I'm seeing the same teams picked to make the playoffs. Moreso than in other seasons, people are taking the teams that won last year and are plugging them into this year's playoffs. And I don't just mean the teams that made the playoffs from last year but the ones that didn't with strong records last year as well (MIA, KC, KC, DAL).Looking at the past 9 years, there have been at least 3 teams that made the playoffs that had losing records the season before. (In 1996, there were only 2 teams with losing records in 1995 that made the playoffs.)2005: CHI, CAR, NYG, WAS2004: SD, ATL, PIT, NYJ2003: BAL, KC, DAL, STL, SEA2002: TEN, IND, ATL, NYG2001: NE, CHI, SF2000: DEN, NYG, PHI, NO1999: IND, WAS, STL, DET1998: BUF, DAL, ARI, ATL1997: NYJ, NYG, TB, DETIn looking at expert picks, magazine picks, media picks, FBG board picks, etc. I have not practically NO ONE takng teams that had a losing record last year. The possible exception is BAL, as I have seen a few people picking them.If you had to take 3 teams to make this year's post-season that were sub-.500 last year, who would they be?CLE, BAL, TEN, HOU, BUF, NYJ, OAK, NO, DET, GB, PHI, STL, ARI, SF

We can add:2006: BAL, NYJ, NO, PHISo, for 2007, select 3 teams to make the playoffs among those that had losing records in 2006. That list is:HOU, CLE, BUF, MIA, OAK, ATL, TAM, MIN, DET, WAS, SFO, ARZ-------------Interesting that Andy Aufresne only picked 1 losing club to make it (WAS) and Bicycle Seat Sniffer predicted 0 to do so. On the other hand, 2006 WAS unusual in that we had a whopping EIGHT clubs finish at 8-8. Dufresne has 8-8 PIT and STL making it. BSS has 8-8 PIT, CIN, CAR, and STL all making it.

Without looking at it too hard, I'd say that the teams with losing records from the previous season rarely go lights out in making the playoffs the following year but instead just squeak in. Therefore it's difficult to justify predicting which losing team will make the playoffs.If I HAD to pick three teams from that list to make it, I would take Washington, San Francisco and Buffalo.

Part of the reason I like TAM is that I think the division still could be softer for them than the divisions for other losing clubs with opportunities to make it. I'd rather have to overcome the NFC South than the AFC East.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Why is everyone so down on Baltimore? I keep seeing them as #3 behind CIN & PIT.Is it just because their old vets are all a year older?

The playoff flop probably has something to do with it. And the key to the season is McNair who just seems FRIGHTENINGLY old for some reason.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Well let's try the Yudkin maneuver:

This year more than any other I'm seeing the same teams picked to make the playoffs. Moreso than in other seasons, people are taking the teams that won last year and are plugging them into this year's playoffs. And I don't just mean the teams that made the playoffs from last year but the ones that didn't with strong records last year as well (MIA, KC, KC, DAL).Looking at the past 9 years, there have been at least 3 teams that made the playoffs that had losing records the season before. (In 1996, there were only 2 teams with losing records in 1995 that made the playoffs.)2005: CHI, CAR, NYG, WAS2004: SD, ATL, PIT, NYJ2003: BAL, KC, DAL, STL, SEA2002: TEN, IND, ATL, NYG2001: NE, CHI, SF2000: DEN, NYG, PHI, NO1999: IND, WAS, STL, DET1998: BUF, DAL, ARI, ATL1997: NYJ, NYG, TB, DETIn looking at expert picks, magazine picks, media picks, FBG board picks, etc. I have not practically NO ONE takng teams that had a losing record last year. The possible exception is BAL, as I have seen a few people picking them.If you had to take 3 teams to make this year's post-season that were sub-.500 last year, who would they be?CLE, BAL, TEN, HOU, BUF, NYJ, OAK, NO, DET, GB, PHI, STL, ARI, SF

We can add:2006: BAL, NYJ, NO, PHISo, for 2007, select 3 teams to make the playoffs among those that had losing records in 2006. That list is:HOU, CLE, BUF, MIA, OAK, ATL, TAM, MIN, DET, WAS, SFO, ARZ-------------Interesting that Andy Aufresne only picked 1 losing club to make it (WAS) and Bicycle Seat Sniffer predicted 0 to do so. On the other hand, 2006 WAS unusual in that we had a whopping EIGHT clubs finish at 8-8. Dufresne has 8-8 PIT and STL making it. BSS has 8-8 PIT, CIN, CAR, and STL all making it.

Without looking at it too hard, I'd say that the teams with losing records from the previous season rarely go lights out in making the playoffs the following year but instead just squeak in. Therefore it's difficult to justify predicting which losing team will make the playoffs.If I HAD to pick three teams from that list to make it, I would take Washington, San Francisco and Buffalo.

I think the 8-8 cluster has alot to do with it. Out of the true losing teams the best chances to make it are Det,SFO & ARZ.But I stick by my predictions

 

[Jayrod]

Seems that people are expecting a Panther resurgence as well?Anyone care to elaborate why?

Four games against Tampa Bay and Atlanta.

Hmmm... Their schedule IS really softSt. Louis Houston @Atlanta Tampa Bay @New Orleans @Arizona Indianapolis @Tennessee Atlanta @Green Bay New Orleans San Francisco @Jacksonville Seattle Dallas @Tampa Bay But I have a hard time putting them ahead of New Orleans (who thought we'd ever say that!? ).

On the other hand, Yudkin's info might suggest the Saints only did so well because they went 3-13 in 2005 and had a softer schedule. They wer ea 1st place team, and now draw the Bears / Eagles / Seahawks. Plus, they only won 10 a year ago. Maybe they lose one more, win 9, and that's just not enough.

Doesn't the prior season's record only effect like 2 of the team's games?6 within division4 with a division in opposite conference4 with a divsion in same conference= 14 out of 16 games that are on a set rotation, leaving only 2 to be decided by the prior season.Really it is more luck as to which divisions you have to face as opposed to how you did in the prior season.

 

[LILB811]

As an Eagles fan, I'm biased towards my team, but I honestly see no way the Redskins finish with a better record than the Eagles. The Redskins finished right at or near the bottom in the league last year in all defensive categories. The Eagles have 4 new starters on defense and got rid of the dead weight which plagued the run defense throughout the entire season. They're probably not a top unit, but they are definitely improved. Comparing the Redskins and Eagles offenses is foolish, and it's not even close. I just can't picture it being possible that the Redskins finish with a better record. My predictions look like this:

AFCE

Patriots

Jets

Bills

Dolphins

AFCN

Ravens

Bengals

Steelers

Browns

AFCS

Colts

Titans

Jaguars

Texans

AFCW

Chargers

Broncos

Chiefs

Raiders

NFCE

Eagles

Cowboys

Giants

Redskins

NFCN

Bears

Lions

Packers

Vikings

NFCS

Saints

Panthers

Bucs

Falcons

NFCW

Rams

Seahawks

49ers

Cardinals

I don't think too many divisions are gonna look that much different than last year as not many teams who finished out of the playoffs have really made a ton of improvements, especially on offense. NFC West I think is wide open, and the AFC North should be pretty competitive outside of the Browns.

 

[BGP]

Seems that people are expecting a Panther resurgence as well?Anyone care to elaborate why?

Four games against Tampa Bay and Atlanta.

Hmmm... Their schedule IS really softSt. Louis Houston @Atlanta Tampa Bay @New Orleans @Arizona Indianapolis @Tennessee Atlanta @Green Bay New Orleans San Francisco @Jacksonville Seattle Dallas @Tampa Bay But I have a hard time putting them ahead of New Orleans (who thought we'd ever say that!? ).

On the other hand, Yudkin's info might suggest the Saints only did so well because they went 3-13 in 2005 and had a softer schedule. They wer ea 1st place team, and now draw the Bears / Eagles / Seahawks. Plus, they only won 10 a year ago. Maybe they lose one more, win 9, and that's just not enough.

Doesn't the prior season's record only effect like 2 of the team's games?6 within division4 with a division in opposite conference4 with a divsion in same conference= 14 out of 16 games that are on a set rotation, leaving only 2 to be decided by the prior season.Really it is more luck as to which divisions you have to face as opposed to how you did in the prior season.

Its almost unheard of for a 10-6 club to win a bye, which is what happened with the Saints. I think that may lead people to overvalue them.

 

[cheeseypoof]

AFC EAST

NE

NYJ

BUF

MIA

AFC NORTH

CIN

BAL

PIT

CLE

AFC SOUTH

IND

JAX

TEN

HOU

AFC WEST

SD

DEN

KC

OAK

NFC EAST

PHI

DAL

NYG

WAS

NFC NORTH

CHI

MIN

GB

DET

NFC SOUTH

NO

CAR

TB

ATL

NFC WEST

SF

STL

SEA

ARI

 

[shadyridr]

AFC East

New England

NY Jets

Buffalo

Miami

AFC North

Baltimore

Pittsburgh

Cincinnati

Cleveland

AFC South

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Houston

Tennessee

AFC West

Denver

San Diego

Oakland

Kansas City

NFC East

Philadelphia

Dallas

Washington

NY Giants

NFC North

Chicago

Green Bay

Detroit

Minnesota

NFC South

New Orleans

Carolina

Tampa

Atlanta

NFC West

St. Louis

San Francisco

Seattle

Arizona

SB- DEN over STL

 

[Andy Dufresne]

As an Eagles fan, I'm biased towards my team, but I honestly see no way the Redskins finish with a better record than the Eagles. The Redskins finished right at or near the bottom in the league last year in all defensive categories. The Eagles have 4 new starters on defense and got rid of the dead weight which plagued the run defense throughout the entire season. They're probably not a top unit, but they are definitely improved. Comparing the Redskins and Eagles offenses is foolish, and it's not even close. I just can't picture it being possible that the Redskins finish with a better record.

It's hard for me to debate this because, other than the Giants, I think the division is wide open.The Redskins defense is a bit revamped too. They added London Baker-Fletcher and Laron Landry. Kendrick Golston was a find in his first year and should improve. Plus there were a lot of injuries to key guys last year.

Why do you think the Eagle's offense is so far ahead of the 'Skins?

Portis vs. Westbrook - even

Moss/Lloyd/Randle-El/Cooley vs Brown/Curtis/Lewis/Smith - slight advantage to Eagles

McNabb vs Campbell - a healthy McNabb destroys this matchup. But he's not so it's a lot closer than you think.

O-lines - big advantage to the Eagles.

So while I do think the Eagles' offense is better than the 'Skins', the difference isn't that great.

 

[Jayrod]

O-lines - big advantage to the Eagles.So while I do think the Eagles' offense is better than the 'Skins', the difference isn't that great.

These two statements are contradictary.O-lines can make skill players better. Skill players can't really make O-lines better.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

O-lines - big advantage to the Eagles.So while I do think the Eagles' offense is better than the 'Skins', the difference isn't that great.

These two statements are contradictary.O-lines can make skill players better. Skill players can't really make O-lines better.

It's a matter of scale, but I guess I can agree that those are contradictory.But my biggest assumption is that McNabb will not be healthy all season long and if/when he goes down, the options behind him are very poor.Even though ACL injuries aren't as devastating as they once were, they're also not as easy to come back from as most people seem to assume.

 

[shadyridr]

As an Eagles fan, I'm biased towards my team, but I honestly see no way the Redskins finish with a better record than the Eagles. The Redskins finished right at or near the bottom in the league last year in all defensive categories. The Eagles have 4 new starters on defense and got rid of the dead weight which plagued the run defense throughout the entire season. They're probably not a top unit, but they are definitely improved. Comparing the Redskins and Eagles offenses is foolish, and it's not even close. I just can't picture it being possible that the Redskins finish with a better record.

It's hard for me to debate this because, other than the Giants, I think the division is wide open.The Redskins defense is a bit revamped too. They added London Baker-Fletcher and Laron Landry. Kendrick Golston was a find in his first year and should improve. Plus there were a lot of injuries to key guys last year.

Why do you think the Eagle's offense is so far ahead of the 'Skins?

Portis vs. Westbrook - even

Moss/Lloyd/Randle-El/Cooley vs Brown/Curtis/Lewis/Smith - slight advantage to EaglesMcNabb vs Campbell - a healthy McNabb destroys this matchup. But he's not so it's a lot closer than you think.

O-lines - big advantage to the Eagles.

So while I do think the Eagles' offense is better than the 'Skins', the difference isn't that great.

Slight? Seriously?

 

[Jayrod]

O-lines - big advantage to the Eagles.So while I do think the Eagles' offense is better than the 'Skins', the difference isn't that great.

These two statements are contradictary.O-lines can make skill players better. Skill players can't really make O-lines better.

It's a matter of scale, but I guess I can agree that those are contradictory.But my biggest assumption is that McNabb will not be healthy all season long and if/when he goes down, the options behind him are very poor.Even though ACL injuries aren't as devastating as they once were, they're also not as easy to come back from as most people seem to assume.

I agree there. If McNabb isn't at least at 80%, the Eagles offense will be in a world of hurt.I think the NFC East is wide open as well, but I think the Eagles have the upper hand IF they stay healthy. Unfortunately, I don't think that both McNabb and Westbrook will play a full season. One of them will miss significant time and maybe both.