Your sleeper WR of 2010 - Brian Robiskie (1 Viewer)

[Sweet Love]

This is partially a gut feel here, but also one that I think can come to fruition due to the situation in Cleveland. Going into 2009, Robiskie, an early 2nd rounder, was bandied about by scouts and prognasticators as the most "NFL ready" WR in that draft class. He certainly did not live up to expectations and his rookie running mate (Massaquoi) took all the thunder and posted a very nice rookie season. Not sure how things will play out, but if he "gets it" this year, he could become a top 30 WR (55/750/6) kind of guy and that may make for a decent WR3 at a bargain bin price.

Pros:

His father is a respected WR coach in the league (also had a stint (or maybe two) as a HC in the league and most likely worked with him/sought advice throughout the offseason.

While he has Cribbs and Massaquoi in front of him, if he truly does have nice hands, his size (6'3) can come into play and could be a redzone feature if he can get on the field.

He has been drawing praise in workouts from his HC, which is never a bad thing. Mangini does not gush a ton about his players, so I personally do not think he is "blowing smoke".

While most are underwhelmed about the QB upgrades made in Cleveland, they did secure two vets in Delhomme and Wallace to go along with McCoy, so they have only one way to go at this point (up).

Cons:

Why did he not perform last year? Usually you hear tales of poor attitudes and conditioning as reasons to why a highly touted prospect fails in their first year. There was little chatter as to why he did hit the field, and while some may seem that as a positive, you can always try to change an attitude or a weight issue; you can't necessarily change suckiness.

Last year Cleveland ran for more yards on average (8th in rushing) than they threw for (32nd in passing). In fact, that may be a thread on its own, as I can't imagine there are a ton of sub .500 teams that have accomplished that. It will be hard to right the ship, and there may just not be enough passing yards to go around between Cribbs, Robiskie, Mass and even Stuckey.

What if the QB still suck? This is very legitimate, and now they have a prove Harrison and the rookie Hardesty to pound the ball (along with James Davis coming back) if they need to.

 

[gandalas]

I just took him in the 44th round of our dynasty startup draft (60 rounds total). I don't expect much, but he was fairly good at OSU, so I figure if he gets out there, he could do something.

 

[identikit]

Robiskie certainly has the opportunity.

I just don't think he's that good, even WR3 level good.

 

[Timmay]

Not this year, dynasty i would take a chance on him to maybe pan out in 2012-13.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I've picked him up late in a bunch of leagues.

He has the best hands out of Mass, himself, and Mitchell.

He has good size and opportunity + young.

 

[LHLC]

Even if he does come on strong (there are good reports coming out of Berea), he would still be the team's second wr at best. Add in the fact that there is very little in wr TDs to split up & you have to conclude that he isn't likely to be anything special in 2010. The perfect storm would make him wr2 material at best. Dynasty -- maybe. Redraft -- no.

 

[Sweet Love]

I've picked him up late in a bunch of leagues.He has the best hands out of Mass, himself, and Mitchell.He has good size and opportunity + young.

I guess that is what I was thinking too. Every year, there is a guy who surprises us (and I am not talking about the heralded 6th round sleeper), but guy we had no clue would take to the came that particular year. I see no reason why Robiskie cannot be that guy in 2010 and in fact, he has one of the better situations due to offesnive upside (I doubt they manage to finish 32nd in passing yet again) and he does seem to be getting praise.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I read a few good things about him coming from camp. I read the only reason he didn't play more last year was that Mangenius wanted him to try harder on special teams.

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Last year at training camp, Robiskie was the last draft pick to sign. Even though he recovered a fumble on the punt team in the preseason finale against the Bears at Chicago, Robiskie always seemed to be in Mangini's doghouse. Mangini questioned his value on special teams, a role Robiskie rarely played at OSU.

I think he will lead Cleveland in receptions. The only thing is that might not mean much. It still might only make him a WR3 in PPR leagues.

 

[renesauz]

The knock on Robiskie has been, and continues to be, his complete lack of any stndout skills. Good attitude, smart, hard worke...but no elite physical traits. The guy has terrific value on an NFL roster as a 3/4...someone a team can count on to step in at any spot...but he's NOT going to ever consitantly beat opposing team's #1/2 corners. Because of that, his fantasy upside is limited at best.

 

[beto]

I don't see much stopping him from being the #1 in Cleveland. Delhomme likes to throw the ball behind (or underthrow) his receivers so if he's as smart as they say he is he could make a living off of comig back on underthrown balls. I don't have much opinion on him after a quiet rookie year but he does have opportunity.

 

[loose circuits]

I just don't think he has enough talent. I hope he proves me wrong cause he sounds like a good kid.

 

[Mortimer Ichabod]

I watched every Browns game last year. Brian Robiskie is arguably the biggest bust in last years draft! I would not recommend anyone rostering him, at all, for any reason. unless you are in a league with 40 man rosters, Robiskie should be on your free agent list. I think he will be out of the league by this time next year.

 

[MAC_32]

Why did he not perform last year? Usually you hear tales of poor attitudes and conditioning as reasons to why a highly touted prospect fails in their first year. There was little chatter as to why he did hit the field, and while some may seem that as a positive, you can always try to change an attitude or a weight issue; you can't necessarily change suckiness.

Once you're in Mangini's doghouse it is very difficult to get out, every mistake made thereafter is scrutinized even more so than they already are. It doesn't help that he isn't an asset on special teams, he couldn't be activated gameday because of the numbers game. The last WR on the bench has to be able to play special teams and Robiskie doesn't. The first week of camp this season will be especially important for him, I still think the guy can play in the league but he has to come camp with a fire under his belly because he did not last season and that killed his chances to produce.

 

[Aardvarks]

Brian Robiskie = Maurice Stovall.

He might be a good NFL asst. coach one day, given his lineage.

 

[Routilla]

Pass.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I watched every Browns game last year. Brian Robiskie is arguably the biggest bust in last years draft! I would not recommend anyone rostering him, at all, for any reason. unless you are in a league with 40 man rosters, Robiskie should be on your free agent list. I think he will be out of the league by this time next year.

He was a rookie.....my lord people. NFL players improve the most from their rookie to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd seasons in the league.He has size, good hands, and was a 2nd round pick.

 

[KellysHeroes]

no reason to think he can't break out... theres no competition over there and their best Pass Catcher is Watson; I wouldn't mind getting him in a couple of Dynasties

 

[BuckeyeArt]

Delhomme likes to throw the ball behind (or underthrow) his receivers so if he's as smart as they say he is he could make a living off of comig back on underthrown balls.

He certainly is very experienced at this. He got a lot of practice during his last year at OSU. Just about every ball Pryor through that year was underthrown.

 

[cr8f]

Is this 2009 again? I fell for this last year.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Is this 2009 again? I fell for this last year.

Oh you mean his rookie year....I feel bad for when u miss breakout WR's...was sidney rice the man his rookie year....nope.

 

[Mortimer Ichabod]

Is this 2009 again? I fell for this last year.

Oh you mean his rookie year....I feel bad for when u miss breakout WR's...was sidney rice the man his rookie year....nope.

It was obvious Sidney Rice had big time talent and potential. Robiskie unfortunately offers none of that. If he lives up to his potential, he is merely a pretty solid #4 wr on an NFL team. Hopefully he can contribute on special teams.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Is this 2009 again? I fell for this last year.

Oh you mean his rookie year....I feel bad for when u miss breakout WR's...was sidney rice the man his rookie year....nope.

It was obvious Sidney Rice had big time talent and potential. Robiskie unfortunately offers none of that. If he lives up to his potential, he is merely a pretty solid #4 wr on an NFL team. Hopefully he can contribute on special teams.

He isn't Sideny rice....however he was a consensus 2nd round NFL talent last year. That is more potential than a #4 WR. Then looking at his situation and nobody is the #1. Massaquoi wasn't even the #1 his last season in college.

 

[LionsFan78]

Brian Robiskie = Maurice Stovall.He might be a good NFL asst. coach one day, given his lineage.

Michael Jenkins also comes to mind

 

[Sweet Love]

Is this 2009 again? I fell for this last year.

Oh you mean his rookie year....I feel bad for when u miss breakout WR's...was sidney rice the man his rookie year....nope.

It was obvious Sidney Rice had big time talent and potential. Robiskie unfortunately offers none of that. If he lives up to his potential, he is merely a pretty solid #4 wr on an NFL team. Hopefully he can contribute on special teams.

Early Doucet and Robert Meachem didn't look any better their rookie years...now everyone is as excited as a 12 year old opening his first Playboy in regards to their future prospects.

 

[CataclysmicThunder]

Is this 2009 again? I fell for this last year.

Oh you mean his rookie year....I feel bad for when u miss breakout WR's...was sidney rice the man his rookie year....nope.

It was obvious Sidney Rice had big time talent and potential. Robiskie unfortunately offers none of that. If he lives up to his potential, he is merely a pretty solid #4 wr on an NFL team. Hopefully he can contribute on special teams.

Early Doucet and Robert Meachem didn't look any better their rookie years...now everyone is as excited as a 12 year old opening his first Playboy in regards to their future prospects.

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

There is a difference between sleeper and comatose. I fear this guy is the latter.

 

[renesauz]

Robiskie has a very high floor...he will be on an NFL roster for a good long time.

The problem isn't his floor...it's his ceiling, which as as an NFL 3/4 type.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

ESPN Insider

It'd been a little while since we'd heard any wild hyperbole on how good Brian Robiskie was looking this spring, but on Sunday, Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer answered the call for all mankind. Pluto: "If the Browns were to give an award for an MVP of the different minicamps, receiver Brian Robiskie would be the winner."

As we always caution, the reactions from spring practices generally skew a bit too much in the optimistic direction. However, given the competition, Robiskie will certainly have his opportunity.

 

[SoopaCee]

i still rather have M&M

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

He's not my sleeper. My sleeper is going to be Brandon Tate. More talent, better team, and will have the opportunity.

 

[Sweet Love]

ESPN InsiderIt'd been a little while since we'd heard any wild hyperbole on how good Brian Robiskie was looking this spring, but on Sunday, Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer answered the call for all mankind. Pluto: "If the Browns were to give an award for an MVP of the different minicamps, receiver Brian Robiskie would be the winner."As we always caution, the reactions from spring practices generally skew a bit too much in the optimistic direction. However, given the competition, Robiskie will certainly have his opportunity.

This was mentioned in Joe's Sunday email, but what i found interesting was the following (in the same email):Source: Tony Grossi - the Cleveland Plain DealerTony Grossi, from the Cleveland Plain Dealer, believes Jake Delhomme is the No. 1 quarterback. During the minicamps, Delhomme worked with the starters and the Browns were very pleased with the 35 year old. They like how he quickly adapted to the offense and how he didn't make many poor throws. He has looked like what they hoped for when signing him to a $7 million deal: A solid veteran with strong leadership skills.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm certainly with you in the idea that Robiskie is currently one of a handful of WRs you can basically roster at your leisure near the end of your draft, and yet he actually could be in your lineup (in 3WR leagues particularly) quite a bit if things fell right. He's not even showing up in Clayton's consensus WR ADP data (which goes 91 receivers deep): http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/a...ortby=consensus

I have him ranked WR68 in my latest projections, but definitely think that will be moving up a tad when I do my next set of projections and rankings. As a late round flier on the end of your roster? I dig him more and more.

 

[Fullback Fro]

Robiskies product will be tied to Delhomme's. Not sure if any of you guys watched Delhomme last year but it looks like his days of being a productive QB may be over. Delhomme had a elite offensive line and running game to set up the pass last year and Steve Smith was hardly playable for much of the season and ended up more like a WR3. And you think Robiskie is going match that?

 

[candymanvandyfan]

To me Robiskie looks like an overcoached straightline robot out there, the kind of guy who gets up to speed and gets down from speed slowly. He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning.

Sidney Rice was better athletically as a Redshirt Freshman in college than Robiskie will ever be. He outjumps Robiskie by over half a foot. He's a quicker and more natural fluid athlete, has great ball skills and has the potential to be a dominant NFL receiver.

Robiskie has the potential to continue to be rostered, even featured, until a team realizes he wasn't worth the pick or the money they used to acquire him.

 

[Chimp Magnet]

To me Robiskie looks like an overcoached straightline robot out there, the kind of guy who gets up to speed and gets down from speed slowly. He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning.Sidney Rice was better athletically as a Redshirt Freshman in college than Robiskie will ever be. He outjumps Robiskie by over half a foot. He's a quicker and more natural fluid athlete, has great ball skills and has the potential to be a dominant NFL receiver.Robiskie has the potential to continue to be rostered, even featured, until a team realizes he wasn't worth the pick or the money they used to acquire him.

"He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning."Explain where you pulled that from.And where the six inch vertical leap difference comes from... Cuz I'm just not seeing it...

 

[Routilla]

If Jake was not the QB I might buy in just a tad.

 

[cstu]

To me Robiskie looks like an overcoached straightline robot out there, the kind of guy who gets up to speed and gets down from speed slowly. He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning.

Sidney Rice was better athletically as a Redshirt Freshman in college than Robiskie will ever be. He outjumps Robiskie by over half a foot. He's a quicker and more natural fluid athlete, has great ball skills and has the potential to be a dominant NFL receiver.

Robiskie has the potential to continue to be rostered, even featured, until a team realizes he wasn't worth the pick or the money they used to acquire him.

"He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning."

Explain where you pulled that from.



And where the six inch vertical leap difference comes from... Cuz I'm just not seeing it...

Robiskie had a 37.5" vertical and Rice had 39.5" - a two inch difference.Also, Robiskie's 40 time at the combine was 4.49 - slightly faster than Rice's 4.51.

 

[Bob Magaw]

youtube of robiskie's 2008 ohio state highlight reel...

pretty catch on play starting at :49 second mark...

he could surprise in redraft this year, though i am more excited about his prospects in dynasty leagues...

even though rookies don't typically do much, maybe fantasy owners were a bit spoiled by success of many other WRs from class of '09...

but that was a pretty dysfunctional offense, especially passing-wise...

i actually think delhomme is capable of being more competent than he was last year (shouldn't be too hard), which would bode well for robiskie...

the running game could be very good if hardesty is as good as advertised, in a RBBC with harrison (& cribbs wildcats?)...

browns don't have a stellar defense, and play some good teams in the AFC north, so CLE could need to throw a lot in the second half...

lombardi compared him to a poor man's fitz... this sounds extremely over the top (he did say poor man's... sub you own adjective/quaifier - impoverished, destitute, etc.)... but he does have similar physical measurables and numbers... he wasn't nearly as highly touted or as good a prospect, and obviously didn't explode onto the NFL scene like fitz... some parallels in their game (on film)... robiskie has a knack for getting his body between the ball and the defender, and walling them off with positioning (cris carter was a master of this)... they were both questioned about their speed coming out, but somewhat unexpectedly ran 4.4s (robiskie at combine, not a dubious time from notorious ohio state fast track ((terrence cody could probably run a 4.3))... fitz appears quicker and more explosive, robiskie's speed may be more of the build up-type)... they are capable of making athletic catches with acrobatic aerial skills, including balance, timing, agility, body control, hand eye coordination, field awareness, they compete for the ball and finish with great concentration and hands... not sure if he will ever offer much in the way of RAC, but he shows some toughness, and fitz himself did develop and get better in this department, compared to his first few years...

what are some other comp players that come to mind for others? i think he has more upside than michael jenkins, and far more than stovall... not sure where the rice comparison came from... robiskie could be not as good as rice (most WRs aren't - top 10 with upside) and still very valuable?

while robiskie may not have elite explosivenessfor a WR, i found him to be a fluid runner with deceptive speed that was smooth in and out of his breaks... a young torry holt was a a player that came to mind for me (not saying he will have a similar career, just some resemblances i thought i detected in their game - robiskie is bigger, not as sudden, quick, adept at full speed cutting without breaking stride, or not telegraphing routes with uncanny, machine like precision)...

 

[candymanvandyfan]

To me Robiskie looks like an overcoached straightline robot out there, the kind of guy who gets up to speed and gets down from speed slowly. He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning.

Sidney Rice was better athletically as a Redshirt Freshman in college than Robiskie will ever be. He outjumps Robiskie by over half a foot. He's a quicker and more natural fluid athlete, has great ball skills and has the potential to be a dominant NFL receiver.

Robiskie has the potential to continue to be rostered, even featured, until a team realizes he wasn't worth the pick or the money they used to acquire him.

"He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning."

Explain where you pulled that from.



And where the six inch vertical leap difference comes from... Cuz I'm just not seeing it...

Robiskie had a 37.5" vertical and Rice had 39.5" - a two inch difference.Also, Robiskie's 40 time at the combine was 4.49 - slightly faster than Rice's 4.51.

In the ten yard split, Rice had Robiskie by .05, which is a more significant gap than .02 in the 40. Rice gets up to speed faster.Rice is an inch taller. I don't have their arm length scores. People have seen Rice do 42" on the vertical, and it was claimed he did 44" as a Freshman at South Carolina. I have seen both Rice and this other guy jump midrun, and I can tell which one ends up at a higher point for the ball.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...n.7145874c.html "Favre took advantage of Rice's 42-inch vertical leap and 6-4 frame by throwing high fade passes into the end zone or deep down the field, trusting that Rice would come down with them. 'He's a jumper, kinda like a basketball player out there,' Cowboys cornerback Mike Jenkins told Dallas reporters when describing Rice."

Running at speed, needing somebody to go up high and get the high ball, I'm taking Rice about a dozen times out of twelve over Robotskie.

My eyes tell me Rice is the better athlete, the better wide receiver, and someone who easily outjumps Robiskie by over six inches.

 

[Chimp Magnet]

To me Robiskie looks like an overcoached straightline robot out there, the kind of guy who gets up to speed and gets down from speed slowly. He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning.

Sidney Rice was better athletically as a Redshirt Freshman in college than Robiskie will ever be. He outjumps Robiskie by over half a foot. He's a quicker and more natural fluid athlete, has great ball skills and has the potential to be a dominant NFL receiver.

Robiskie has the potential to continue to be rostered, even featured, until a team realizes he wasn't worth the pick or the money they used to acquire him.

"He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning."

Explain where you pulled that from.



And where the six inch vertical leap difference comes from... Cuz I'm just not seeing it...

Robiskie had a 37.5" vertical and Rice had 39.5" - a two inch difference.Also, Robiskie's 40 time at the combine was 4.49 - slightly faster than Rice's 4.51.

In the ten yard split, Rice had Robiskie by .05, which is a more significant gap than .02 in the 40. Rice gets up to speed faster.Rice is an inch taller. I don't have their arm length scores. People have seen Rice do 42" on the vertical, and it was claimed he did 44" as a Freshman at South Carolina. I have seen both Rice and this other guy jump midrun, and I can tell which one ends up at a higher point for the ball.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...n.7145874c.html "Favre took advantage of Rice's 42-inch vertical leap and 6-4 frame by throwing high fade passes into the end zone or deep down the field, trusting that Rice would come down with them. 'He's a jumper, kinda like a basketball player out there,' Cowboys cornerback Mike Jenkins told Dallas reporters when describing Rice."

Running at speed, needing somebody to go up high and get the high ball, I'm taking Rice about a dozen times out of twelve over Robotskie.

My eyes tell me Rice is the better athlete, the better wide receiver, and someone who easily outjumps Robiskie by over six inches.

I didn't realize you were basing your belief that Rice was better on something someone maybe saw him possibly do 8 years ago. Hard to argue with hard facts like that. I still wanna know what empirical evidence you've come across to suggest that Robiskie doesn't like playing football.

 

[B. Nugget]

To me Robiskie looks like an overcoached straightline robot out there, the kind of guy who gets up to speed and gets down from speed slowly. He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning.

Sidney Rice was better athletically as a Redshirt Freshman in college than Robiskie will ever be. He outjumps Robiskie by over half a foot. He's a quicker and more natural fluid athlete, has great ball skills and has the potential to be a dominant NFL receiver.

Robiskie has the potential to continue to be rostered, even featured, until a team realizes he wasn't worth the pick or the money they used to acquire him.

"He doesn't seem to enjoy playing/winning."

Explain where you pulled that from.



And where the six inch vertical leap difference comes from... Cuz I'm just not seeing it...

Robiskie had a 37.5" vertical and Rice had 39.5" - a two inch difference.Also, Robiskie's 40 time at the combine was 4.49 - slightly faster than Rice's 4.51.

In the ten yard split, Rice had Robiskie by .05, which is a more significant gap than .02 in the 40. Rice gets up to speed faster.Rice is an inch taller. I don't have their arm length scores. People have seen Rice do 42" on the vertical, and it was claimed he did 44" as a Freshman at South Carolina. I have seen both Rice and this other guy jump midrun, and I can tell which one ends up at a higher point for the ball.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...n.7145874c.html "Favre took advantage of Rice's 42-inch vertical leap and 6-4 frame by throwing high fade passes into the end zone or deep down the field, trusting that Rice would come down with them. 'He's a jumper, kinda like a basketball player out there,' Cowboys cornerback Mike Jenkins told Dallas reporters when describing Rice."

Running at speed, needing somebody to go up high and get the high ball, I'm taking Rice about a dozen times out of twelve over Robotskie.

My eyes tell me Rice is the better athlete, the better wide receiver, and someone who easily outjumps Robiskie by over six inches.

I didn't realize you were basing your belief that Rice was better on something someone maybe saw him possibly do 8 years ago. Hard to argue with hard facts like that. I still wanna know what empirical evidence you've come across to suggest that Robiskie doesn't like playing football.

I'm still trying to figure out why we are comparing Robiskie to Sidney Rice???? That seems a little unfair to me...he may or may not pan out to be a WR1 for Cleveland or he could be out of the league in 2 years, but Sidney Rice's abilities are irrelevant in this conversation, IMO.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Is this 2009 again? I fell for this last year.

Oh you mean his rookie year....I feel bad for when u miss breakout WR's...was sidney rice the man his rookie year....nope.

It was obvious Sidney Rice had big time talent and potential. Robiskie unfortunately offers none of that. If he lives up to his potential, he is merely a pretty solid #4 wr on an NFL team. Hopefully he can contribute on special teams.

He's a "Sean Dawkins All-Star." Who wants the upside of 700 yards in a fantasy league? Go with someone a lot more talented if you want a breakout candidate.Re: Standing out in OTAs. Come on -- he did the exact same thing last year, and then disappeared once contact was allowed.

 

[FUBAR]

Is this 2009 again? I fell for this last year.

Oh you mean his rookie year....I feel bad for when u miss breakout WR's...was sidney rice the man his rookie year....nope.

It was obvious Sidney Rice had big time talent and potential. Robiskie unfortunately offers none of that. If he lives up to his potential, he is merely a pretty solid #4 wr on an NFL team. Hopefully he can contribute on special teams.

He's a "Sean Dawkins All-Star." Who wants the upside of 700 yards in a fantasy league? Go with someone a lot more talented if you want a breakout candidate.Re: Standing out in OTAs. Come on -- he did the exact same thing last year, and then disappeared once contact was allowed.

He offers about the same upside as Devone Bess even though Bess isn't going to be Miami's #1. Personally, I'll take Bess if I want Sean Dawkins.

 

[MAC_32]

Re: Standing out in OTAs. Come on -- he did the exact same thing last year, and then disappeared once contact was allowed.

This year's offseason reports have been much more favorable than last season.

 

[34=Sweetness]

Massaquoi looked like a much more NFL-ready receiver last year, and we all know how Delhomme loves to lock on to his receivers. Massaquoi had a couple nice games despite Cleveland's passing woes, and Delhomme might be an improvement over Quinn or Anderson. Something to look at for camp, but there's nothing that really sticks out for me from Robiskie

 

[MAC_32]

Massaquoi looked like a much more NFL-ready receiver last year, and we all know how Delhomme loves to lock on to his receivers. Massaquoi had a couple nice games despite Cleveland's passing woes, and Delhomme might be an improvement over Quinn or Anderson. Something to look at for camp, but there's nothing that really sticks out for me from Robiskie

Delhomme won't lock into Massaquoi, not if he wants any chance of success this year. Massaquoi is good for some good plays and the occasional big play, but he disappears for long periods of time. Delhomme isn't going to find a Steve Smith in Cleveland, regardless, but his tunnel vision safety valve can't be someone as inconsistent as Massaquoi.

 

[34=Sweetness]

Massaquoi looked like a much more NFL-ready receiver last year, and we all know how Delhomme loves to lock on to his receivers. Massaquoi had a couple nice games despite Cleveland's passing woes, and Delhomme might be an improvement over Quinn or Anderson. Something to look at for camp, but there's nothing that really sticks out for me from Robiskie

Delhomme won't lock into Massaquoi, not if he wants any chance of success this year. Massaquoi is good for some good plays and the occasional big play, but he disappears for long periods of time. Delhomme isn't going to find a Steve Smith in Cleveland, regardless, but his tunnel vision safety valve can't be someone as inconsistent as Massaquoi.

So Jake Delhomme is just going to hand the ball off every play?SInce I see Cleveland losing by double digits in most games, I can't see that happening.

 

[massraider]

Massaquoi looked like a much more NFL-ready receiver last year, and we all know how Delhomme loves to lock on to his receivers. Massaquoi had a couple nice games despite Cleveland's passing woes, and Delhomme might be an improvement over Quinn or Anderson. Something to look at for camp, but there's nothing that really sticks out for me from Robiskie

Delhomme won't lock into Massaquoi, not if he wants any chance of success this year. Massaquoi is good for some good plays and the occasional big play, but he disappears for long periods of time. Delhomme isn't going to find a Steve Smith in Cleveland, regardless, but his tunnel vision safety valve can't be someone as inconsistent as Massaquoi.

So Jake Delhomme is just going to hand the ball off every play?SInce I see Cleveland losing by double digits in most games, I can't see that happening.

Are those the only two options: Hand off every play or lock in on Massaquoi?

 

[34=Sweetness]

Massaquoi looked like a much more NFL-ready receiver last year, and we all know how Delhomme loves to lock on to his receivers. Massaquoi had a couple nice games despite Cleveland's passing woes, and Delhomme might be an improvement over Quinn or Anderson. Something to look at for camp, but there's nothing that really sticks out for me from Robiskie

Delhomme won't lock into Massaquoi, not if he wants any chance of success this year. Massaquoi is good for some good plays and the occasional big play, but he disappears for long periods of time. Delhomme isn't going to find a Steve Smith in Cleveland, regardless, but his tunnel vision safety valve can't be someone as inconsistent as Massaquoi.

So Jake Delhomme is just going to hand the ball off every play?SInce I see Cleveland losing by double digits in most games, I can't see that happening.

Are those the only two options: Hand off every play or lock in on Massaquoi?

Well we are talking Delhomme here, so interception is also an option.

 

[Mark Wimer]

I'm certainly with you in the idea that Robiskie is currently one of a handful of WRs you can basically roster at your leisure near the end of your draft, and yet he actually could be in your lineup (in 3WR leagues particularly) quite a bit if things fell right. He's not even showing up in Clayton's consensus WR ADP data (which goes 91 receivers deep): http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/a...ortby=consensus

I have him ranked WR68 in my latest projections, but definitely think that will be moving up a tad when I do my next set of projections and rankings. As a late round flier on the end of your roster? I dig him more and more.

I'm with Jason on this topic - Robiskie has little competition in Cleveland, and the coaches have pretty much RAVED about him throughout OTAs LINK

Terry Pluto, from the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports if the Browns were to give an award for an MVP of the different minicamps, receiver Brian Robiskie would be the winner. As one Browns coach said: "He started strong, and then got better. He never let up. He's made a huge jump." The Browns say Robiskie now "runs" the pass routes, rather than going through them "robotically," as he did his rookie season. He earned the respect of veteran quarterback Jake Delhomme, who told the coaches how Robiskie is "exactly where he should be at exactly the right time."

IMO he's definitely worth a flyer pick in redrafts and would be a solid pickup in dynasty leagues if still available (full disclosure: I drafted Robiskie last year in an IDP dynasty league with 44 man rosters (40 active + 4 man taxi), and am hoping that he'll be in my lineup during 2010 at some point - there is no way I am cutting him).