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☞ Official SOPRANOS Thread (9 Viewers)
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regularguy
Footballguy
End the cycle of violence by committing murder? I don't see it. AJ has always been pretty detached from his dad's career and lifestyle, unlike Meadow.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I agree - AJ is clueless - you need someone with knowledge if you're going to flip someone - I thought Chris was the guy to flip before last night. Can't see Paulie doing it so not sure if that angle will be played out.
Still think it will end in War with Phil - the laughing and lack of respect from the NY is getting out of control.
Still think it will end in War with Phil - the laughing and lack of respect from the NY is getting out of control.
regularguy
Footballguy
I think we've probably run out of time for someone to flip and for that to play out. Now, I suppose it's possible that there's been a major rat for awhile that we haven't known about, but that would be a surprise.
the one thing that i think is cool about the show now is honestly i dont think anyone has their finger on how it will all end. Many will be disappointed or let down by the ending im sure, but with 3 episodes left, they really are not swaying one way or the other. I am not sure that a standoff with Phil would be the best ending. To me, Johnny Sac will always be the head of that family, Phil is just a backup RB who is being forced to start. He's a jabronie
Ralph Furley
Footballguy
Thats exactly why it would be the most fitting way. Its like an abused child/women/ etc killing their tormentor. Even though they are not violent by nature, it is the only way to end the cycle of violence.AJ can pretend to be detached but it will never be possible as long as his father is alive. Any time he meets a new friend, etc the first thing he here's is he's the son of Tony Soprano.I am not saying it is going to happen, but the way the writers are focusing on AJ, makes me think it is possible.
Alias
Footballguy
Couple of notes -
re: dream sequence
the flash of light from the sun was peculiar
re: while playing roulette
when he started winning Tony laughed when he said, "he's dead!" hence his luck has changed
I would be disappointed if AJ killed Tony, not a very fitting ending IMO, only motive I could see would be if it was Tony that caused the breakup with his fiance, it was a little peculiar how that went down, she accepted his proposal and when she dumped him and he said he loved her she replied that she loved him too
re: dream sequence
the flash of light from the sun was peculiar
re: while playing roulette
when he started winning Tony laughed when he said, "he's dead!" hence his luck has changed
I would be disappointed if AJ killed Tony, not a very fitting ending IMO, only motive I could see would be if it was Tony that caused the breakup with his fiance, it was a little peculiar how that went down, she accepted his proposal and when she dumped him and he said he loved her she replied that she loved him too
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The Gator
Footballguy
Crossed my mind last night too.
The Gator
Footballguy
The previous weeks "eppy" was worth $12 by it's self.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Good episode. Tony is screwed. He is giving up on his therapy and is going to embrace himself as the violent pig he is. Good for him.
I hope Butchie gets flayed or something like that. I hate that little #####.
I hope Butchie gets flayed or something like that. I hate that little #####.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Mahoney
Footballguy
Nope. I thought he yelled, "I did it" as well.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
My official guess is that AJ commits suicide.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I thought so too. As if he had successfully removed the albatross (Chris) from around his neck and was now reaping the benefits.Mahoney said:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Bellagio.
tipsy mcstagger
Footballguy
I think he does after going "postal" on his new buddies.JetsWillWin said:
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
It looked in the one scene like Caesar's was next door (to the left - that's why I assumed he was at Bellagio), but then again, Caesar's is so damn big that if he was on one side of the hotel, it could look like that.I was pretty sure it was Caesars.He said "i get it" twice.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
I think it was Caesars also...Had the pillars at the pool and the bathrobe had the Greek style trim on it...It looked in the one scene like Caesar's was next door (to the left - that's why I assumed he was at Bellagio), but then again, Caesar's is so damn big that if he was on one side of the hotel, it could look like that.I was pretty sure it was Caesars.
tipsy mcstagger
Footballguy
Really hairy?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I heard in the next episode, Artie Bucco tells Tony to go f himself when he shows up at Vesuvio with Carm's parents and asks to be seated while Carm's father parks the car.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
HBO pretty much gives complete control to the creative people on their shows. Example: when Alan Ball gave HBO the script to HBO for Six Feet Under, HBO's only notes were "...make it more ####ed up."SHIZNITTTT said:
I see what you did here.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Great user name.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Isn't that Butchie, Phil's right hand man
Guy just seems like a huge creep.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
That can pretty much be said for every major character on the show who is living the "life."Still stunned about last night's episode.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
What was the deal with all the commentary about Carlo's arrival when Tony was laid up after the accident...
That one guy made mention of it like 3-4 times...
Even Sil commented on it...
That one guy made mention of it like 3-4 times...
Even Sil commented on it...
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Okay, here is another thing I am wondering...If Christopher wasn't wearing his seat belt, wouldn't he have been thrown from the car? There is almost no way he would still have been in the driver's seat after that kind of jarring.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I don't hate them. They are still better than most dramas. But no way do the last few years measure up to the first 2 or 3 years.El Floppo said:I really don't get the hate for the recent seasons.
Disclaimer: theyr'e starting to blur- so I don't really remember which one's which. That said- wasn't it last year when the season started with Tony recovering from getting shot by Junior? Those opening 3, 4, 5? episodes were amongst the best ever, IMO. And there have been moments of genius throughout.
This week- thought the car ride pre-crash was amazing. Without saying much of anything, we saw the range of Tony's emotions towards Chris... unbelievable writing and acting (without dialogue). Although I did feel that the endless looking up and down at the stereo presaging something coming was a bit too heavy-handed in the direction (and maybe the writing too I guess).
Anthony... meh. Seems to me they're setting him up as character for an important cataystic (is that a word?)... woof... that word just plum finished me. I'm too tired to even finish this thought.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Nope going to go with this.AJ's gang says to hell with this were the #1 gang. Kills of Tony's gang and the NY gang.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
aardball44
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I can't even guess what word he was going for there.I get the "let's throw in a malaprop or two every episode" to show what an uneducated neanderthal he is, but this one seemed too forced. He's not THAT stupid.Minotauro said:
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Funny, all I could sense was that they were shamelessly pimping "The Departed" soundtrack.Wheelhouse said:One thing I caught just before the accident. Chris foreshadows his death...He says "This Departed soundtrack is f***** killer"Not only does "The Departed" tie in to things, but then he says it's "f***** killer" Interesting.I don't know about any of you, but I could sense something was going to happen on the road.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Prostrate is the proper word...Not exactly that big of a difference there...
ETA:
1. Lying face down, as in submission or adoration.
2. Lying flat or at full length.
3. Reduced to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome.
4. Botany Growing flat along the ground.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Interesting that Andy Sipowicz used to say "prostrate" when he meant "prostate."
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
Another malaprop - Chris said "flying ointment" too. At least I thought he said that.
regularguy
Footballguy
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I haven't seen The Departed or heard the soundtrack. Is it all live versions of Pink Floyd songs? And is it as ####### killer as Christopher says it is?Funny, all I could sense was that they were shamelessly pimping "The Departed" soundtrack.Wheelhouse said:One thing I caught just before the accident. Chris foreshadows his death...He says "This Departed soundtrack is f***** killer"Not only does "The Departed" tie in to things, but then he says it's "f***** killer" Interesting.I don't know about any of you, but I could sense something was going to happen on the road.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
That's the only PF song on it, and its the live version from the 1990 Berlin Wall show w/Van Morrison and The Band...The rest of the tracks are: 1. "Comfortably Numb" (Roger Waters Feat. Van Morrison and The Band, version from The Wall Concert in Berlin) – 7:59 2. "Sail on, Sailor" (Beach Boys) – 3:18 3. "Let It Bleed" (Rolling Stones) – 5:18 4. "Sweet Dreams" (Roy Buchanan) – 3:32 5. "One Way Out" (Allman Brothers Band) – 4:57 6. "Baby Blue" (Badfinger) – 3:36 7. "I'm Shipping Up to Boston" (Dropkick Murphys) – 2:34 8. "Nobody But Me" (Human Beinz) – 2:18 9. "Tweedle Dee" (LaVern Baker) – 3:10 10. "Sweet Dreams (Of You)" (Patsy Cline) – 2:34 11. "The Departed Tango" (Howard Shore, Marc Ribot) – 3:32 12. "Beacon Hill" (Howard Shore, Sharon Isbin) – 2:33All in all a very good soundtrack,...The Dropkick Murphys are kickass, and that song is great...I haven't seen The Departed or heard the soundtrack. Is it all live versions of Pink Floyd songs? And is it as ####### killer as Christopher says it is?Funny, all I could sense was that they were shamelessly pimping "The Departed" soundtrack.Wheelhouse said:One thing I caught just before the accident. Chris foreshadows his death...He says "This Departed soundtrack is f***** killer"Not only does "The Departed" tie in to things, but then he says it's "f***** killer" Interesting.I don't know about any of you, but I could sense something was going to happen on the road.
