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I think you're right OC Zed.Honestly, I know it sucks but the free sites = a lot of broke and big girls. There are a lot of big girls in comparison on OK Cupid. It's really odd.eHarmony - I've gotten laid and had fun but it's more of a mixed bag because you only get 7 matches per day, you really have to put in a lot of effort to even find out what they're up for.Match is the less of all evils in my opinion - I'd stick it out on there to be honest.
I would suggest trying out the sites that cater to people who have $. There are a lot of gold diggers on those sites but also a lot who simply wants a man who has it together and isn't living out of his parent's basement / plays xbox all day. A ton of munch younger girls who are into older men tend to sign up on those sites as well.I had the same experience as you did on Match. That's the only site where I've struck out and never got any of the chicks I was interested in.
Yep. i date in that age range(25-40).ETA but im dating in NYC where its the norm for women to be still single and enjoying single life at that age.
Any in particular?
This is a huge distinction. I'm in Orange County, California where at least 50% of the chicks are the vapid, materialistic, Real Housewives of OC type. Another 25% fall into the punk/tattoo white trashy crowd. That leaves me with maybe 25% remaining, of which are 90% on Match are either nurses or teachers (which leave me feeling kind of "meh").
sugardaddie.com for oneAbout a year ago I was in Dallas with older cousin and someone he knew showed up at the bar/restaurant where we were at. Anyways, this guy was I think early 50's or late 40's and was going through a long drawn out divorce. He was fairly crazy but funny dude. His girlfriend ended up showing up later in the evening and she was a knock out. He's very personable so anyway I asked him where did they meet (they were bf/gf at this point) and he told me about that site. He also said don't waste my time with eharmony, match, etc, he tried them all and couldn't recommend this site high enough. I told him I am not looking to be a SD to some chick. He said on that site while there are a lot who are looking for that there are also a lot of smart, intelligent women who have $$ and a great job and sick and tired of dating loser broke men.
I try and stay with the mid 20's and a bit younger or women around my age or if it's clear they are not looking to have children and get married. Communication is key and the ones who are desperate either mention kids/getting married in their profile or it doesn't take long in e-mail.
I tried the Goggins' form e-mail approach (almost verbatim) tonight. It was partly on a lark, and partly because I need a new approach. Looking forward to seeing if I get any responses here...When I tried Match I was pretty experienced and successful with the whole on-line "dating" thing. At that point I had pretty much used all the free sites. Heard nothing but great things so gave it a shot and pretty much was an epic fail. I thought perhaps it's because it's a paid site, I was really baffled. I ended up signing up and paying on another site and like the free sites I was successful. If I was successful with Match I wouldn't have cared that I got a lot of spam e-mails but that compounded my frustration.To cut down on the time you spend you should draft up an email greeting. Mine talks about myself and what I do is usually towards the end add in something that pertains to her (likes football as well or a single parent like myself or loves to cook as I do, etc.) so it doesn't come off as a generic e-mail that she'll think you've sent to many other women.The beginning of my e-mail starts like this and has been a gold mine for me "I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real profile?" I have never gotten a negative reply back. Here's what I start if off with, may be your style or it may not and obviously you need more than an opening but besides Match I rarely don't get feedback from it. Below is what I use and after the "me" time sentence I'll sometimes put in something that she and I both like or have in common. If her profile is short or I don't see anything that we have in common I won't put anything."I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real personal profile? To be honest, I never thought I would sign up on a dating website but I know someone who did on here and said it was a great place to find someone who is attractive and smart and has it together and the kind of women I would want to meet so I browsed some of the profiles in here and saw yours and had to reply to you. I love to have fun and always up for anything and I am an excellent cook! I like to exercise and currently doing this workout called Insanity which is killing me. I was born and raised in Texas but lived in NYC for 10 years and I reside in Austin now. I am a single father of two little girls that I have half the time and a huge part of their lives but that also leaves me with 50% of "me" time. Would love to get to know you more so if interested write back"ETA: Just enough information but not overload. When she replies I then go into my personality and a bit more detailed oriented. Generally found the few sentence initial e-mail or the one that reads like a book doesn't work. Just enough information to wet their appetite and get them to respond.
I tried the Goggins' form e-mail approach (almost verbatim) tonight. It was partly on a lark, and partly because I need a new approach. Looking forward to seeing if I get any responses here...When I tried Match I was pretty experienced and successful with the whole on-line "dating" thing. At that point I had pretty much used all the free sites. Heard nothing but great things so gave it a shot and pretty much was an epic fail. I thought perhaps it's because it's a paid site, I was really baffled. I ended up signing up and paying on another site and like the free sites I was successful. If I was successful with Match I wouldn't have cared that I got a lot of spam e-mails but that compounded my frustration.To cut down on the time you spend you should draft up an email greeting. Mine talks about myself and what I do is usually towards the end add in something that pertains to her (likes football as well or a single parent like myself or loves to cook as I do, etc.) so it doesn't come off as a generic e-mail that she'll think you've sent to many other women.The beginning of my e-mail starts like this and has been a gold mine for me "I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real profile?" I have never gotten a negative reply back. Here's what I start if off with, may be your style or it may not and obviously you need more than an opening but besides Match I rarely don't get feedback from it. Below is what I use and after the "me" time sentence I'll sometimes put in something that she and I both like or have in common. If her profile is short or I don't see anything that we have in common I won't put anything."I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real personal profile? To be honest, I never thought I would sign up on a dating website but I know someone who did on here and said it was a great place to find someone who is attractive and smart and has it together and the kind of women I would want to meet so I browsed some of the profiles in here and saw yours and had to reply to you. I love to have fun and always up for anything and I am an excellent cook! I like to exercise and currently doing this workout called Insanity which is killing me. I was born and raised in Texas but lived in NYC for 10 years and I reside in Austin now. I am a single father of two little girls that I have half the time and a huge part of their lives but that also leaves me with 50% of "me" time. Would love to get to know you more so if interested write back
Curious to hear how it goes although I am sure your photos and what you have put in your profile is just as if not more important than the initial e-mail.
The right person is the right person - that's always been my philosophy and it's worked out well.Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
How do I broach the subject of being firm about not taking care of things for her? Or is that a slippery slope. Truth is, I'd like to get to know her more and definitely would like to "hook up" but I did make the mistake of having my salary up on my match profile (I guess I should keep that hidden) - I don't want her getting any ideas and would like to get that out in the open BEFORE we hook up - which will likely be this week, I think she's coming up for a night and going to stay over.The right person is the right person - that's always been my philosophy and it's worked out well.Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
On the chance that things unexpectedly work out really well between you two, I think I'd rather get a feel for whether she's angling for a sugar daddy rather than tip her off to carefully hide those aspirations by making it an issue right off the bat.And maybe she's not like that at all and you'd just hurt her feelings or instantly kill the good start.You can always cut ties if she starts showing those kind of tendencies.How do I broach the subject of being firm about not taking care of things for her? Or is that a slippery slope. Truth is, I'd like to get to know her more and definitely would like to "hook up" but I did make the mistake of having my salary up on my match profile (I guess I should keep that hidden) - I don't want her getting any ideas and would like to get that out in the open BEFORE we hook up - which will likely be this week, I think she's coming up for a night and going to stay over.The right person is the right person - that's always been my philosophy and it's worked out well.Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
Has she said she wants you to take care of things for her? If not, I don't know why you'd even bring it up.How do I broach the subject of being firm about not taking care of things for her? Or is that a slippery slope. Truth is, I'd like to get to know her more and definitely would like to "hook up" but I did make the mistake of having my salary up on my match profile (I guess I should keep that hidden) - I don't want her getting any ideas and would like to get that out in the open BEFORE we hook up - which will likely be this week, I think she's coming up for a night and going to stay over.The right person is the right person - that's always been my philosophy and it's worked out well.Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
I'm on board with Christo & Boot. You're overthinking this and bringing it up - no matter how subtle - is going to make you look like an ###. If she's trying to play you, you'll see the signs. I know you know this already, but "degree" doesn't equal "smarts/stability/common sense". Some people who are "degree-worthy" slip through the cracks for whatever reason and it sounds like she may be one.And no lie - the most bat-#### crazy women I've dated were well-educated. It's good to have standards, but leave room for the exceptions.Good luck and enjoy the ride.
What is her reason to not have one? I've dated a number of chicks who have degrees and were dumb as rocks. Would you like it if she had some BS degree instead? Don't see the difference.Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
Her main reason not to have one seems to be that she's not very smart. Truly. I don't mean to be judgmental, I have a Masters Degree...she has "some college". You can tell in the conversations she's not very intelligent. Nice, hot, etc. Terrible speller (which does annoy me a bit).I've dated educated women in the past and it is a grind always trying to be funny and impress them so this was a nice no pressure date where I didn't always have to be so sharp and she'd laugh anyway. But this girl has no real life job prospects and not a lot of ambition other than to take care of her mother.I don't know. Who knows why I'm questioning it - thought I could get some good advice here.side note: She wants to come stay the night tonight and I hate when a woman I hardly know knows where I live. It's ok if there's an understanding about it being a fling, but her understanding is that we have a lot of chemistry and are really going to start seeing each other more often.I'm nervous I'm doing what I usually do and letting my #### do the thinking.'Walton Goggins said:What is her reason to not have one? I've dated a number of chicks who have degrees and were dumb as rocks. Would you like it if she had some BS degree instead? Don't see the difference.'Reginald Cornsilks said:Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
FYI: One of the richest girls I've ever dated was a dentist and also had a trust fund and she was seeking someone to basically take care of her. Funny since out of all the girls I've ever dated she made MORE than me yet felt that the man should pay for everything. Just because someone has a great degree and makes a lot of money doesn't mean she's not looking for a SD type.'Das Boot said:On the chance that things unexpectedly work out really well between you two, I think I'd rather get a feel for whether she's angling for a sugar daddy rather than tip her off to carefully hide those aspirations by making it an issue right off the bat.And maybe she's not like that at all and you'd just hurt her feelings or instantly kill the good start.You can always cut ties if she starts showing those kind of tendencies.'Reginald Cornsilks said:How do I broach the subject of being firm about not taking care of things for her? Or is that a slippery slope. Truth is, I'd like to get to know her more and definitely would like to "hook up" but I did make the mistake of having my salary up on my match profile (I guess I should keep that hidden) - I don't want her getting any ideas and would like to get that out in the open BEFORE we hook up - which will likely be this week, I think she's coming up for a night and going to stay over.'Das Boot said:The right person is the right person - that's always been my philosophy and it's worked out well.'Reginald Cornsilks said:Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
If a girl wants you to take care of them it'll be clear sooner rather than later. They can't keep something like that bottled up for long. Don't sweat it and have fun. If she wants a SD type and that's not what you want then dump her when it comes up meanwhile have fun with her.'Reginald Cornsilks said:
Wrap that rascal and let the chips fall where they may. As long as you don't get her pregnant you can't be forced to do anything against your will.Her main reason not to have one seems to be that she's not very smart. Truly. I don't mean to be judgmental, I have a Masters Degree...she has "some college". You can tell in the conversations she's not very intelligent. Nice, hot, etc. Terrible speller (which does annoy me a bit).I've dated educated women in the past and it is a grind always trying to be funny and impress them so this was a nice no pressure date where I didn't always have to be so sharp and she'd laugh anyway. But this girl has no real life job prospects and not a lot of ambition other than to take care of her mother.I don't know. Who knows why I'm questioning it - thought I could get some good advice here.side note: She wants to come stay the night tonight and I hate when a woman I hardly know knows where I live. It's ok if there's an understanding about it being a fling, but her understanding is that we have a lot of chemistry and are really going to start seeing each other more often.I'm nervous I'm doing what I usually do and letting my #### do the thinking.'Walton Goggins said:What is her reason to not have one? I've dated a number of chicks who have degrees and were dumb as rocks. Would you like it if she had some BS degree instead? Don't see the difference.'Reginald Cornsilks said:Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
HIGHLY educated women can be tough, not because they are smart but many have a complex and must always let you know how smart they are. Some though are book smart but are zero when it comes to common sense smart. I know a few women who are like this, highly educated and you'd never know it cause they act like Crissy on Three's Company.I think you're thinking too much down the road. You don't even know her so why bother thinking if this will lead anywhere when you have no idea if it will or not? Enjoy life and have fun and you'll know down the road if you should continue seeing her or not.Her main reason not to have one seems to be that she's not very smart. Truly. I don't mean to be judgmental, I have a Masters Degree...she has "some college". You can tell in the conversations she's not very intelligent. Nice, hot, etc. Terrible speller (which does annoy me a bit).I've dated educated women in the past and it is a grind always trying to be funny and impress them so this was a nice no pressure date where I didn't always have to be so sharp and she'd laugh anyway. But this girl has no real life job prospects and not a lot of ambition other than to take care of her mother.I don't know. Who knows why I'm questioning it - thought I could get some good advice here.side note: She wants to come stay the night tonight and I hate when a woman I hardly know knows where I live. It's ok if there's an understanding about it being a fling, but her understanding is that we have a lot of chemistry and are really going to start seeing each other more often.I'm nervous I'm doing what I usually do and letting my #### do the thinking.'Walton Goggins said:What is her reason to not have one? I've dated a number of chicks who have degrees and were dumb as rocks. Would you like it if she had some BS degree instead? Don't see the difference.'Reginald Cornsilks said:Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
I know a ton of educated multiple degree women who are either married and have no desire to work or are looking for a husband so they can quit working. Not saying this is the case in all women but many don't have the same mindset as men. Most men who take the time, effort and money to get a master degree usually doesn't then decide they don't want to work or work in a job that doesn't even require a master's degree.
Unfortunately the more bat#### crazy they are usually it takes LONGER to find that out so that's just part of the deal if you want to dive into dating. People who know they are nuts are very good about keeping that hidden from you at the beginning. Obvious the ones who are crazy right off you can move on.Just enjoy the ride. You can pretty much have doubts about ANY girl out there. Even the ones who are very attractive, smart and very personable you can think "why is she single then?"
Give it time. Two years really isn't that long.If you're not that into them, you'll find reasons to stop seeing them. Nothing wrong with that. Odds are that cycle will end naturally, when eventually you find someone you're really into despite (or maybe even because of) her flaws.
Nothing wrong with that.
I tried your stock e-mail with four chicks... no replies and 3 of the 4 chicks blocked me outright from even looking at their profiles again.I tried the Goggins' form e-mail approach (almost verbatim) tonight. It was partly on a lark, and partly because I need a new approach. Looking forward to seeing if I get any responses here...When I tried Match I was pretty experienced and successful with the whole on-line "dating" thing. At that point I had pretty much used all the free sites. Heard nothing but great things so gave it a shot and pretty much was an epic fail. I thought perhaps it's because it's a paid site, I was really baffled. I ended up signing up and paying on another site and like the free sites I was successful. If I was successful with Match I wouldn't have cared that I got a lot of spam e-mails but that compounded my frustration.To cut down on the time you spend you should draft up an email greeting. Mine talks about myself and what I do is usually towards the end add in something that pertains to her (likes football as well or a single parent like myself or loves to cook as I do, etc.) so it doesn't come off as a generic e-mail that she'll think you've sent to many other women.The beginning of my e-mail starts like this and has been a gold mine for me "I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real profile?" I have never gotten a negative reply back. Here's what I start if off with, may be your style or it may not and obviously you need more than an opening but besides Match I rarely don't get feedback from it. Below is what I use and after the "me" time sentence I'll sometimes put in something that she and I both like or have in common. If her profile is short or I don't see anything that we have in common I won't put anything."I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real personal profile? To be honest, I never thought I would sign up on a dating website but I know someone who did on here and said it was a great place to find someone who is attractive and smart and has it together and the kind of women I would want to meet so I browsed some of the profiles in here and saw yours and had to reply to you. I love to have fun and always up for anything and I am an excellent cook! I like to exercise and currently doing this workout called Insanity which is killing me. I was born and raised in Texas but lived in NYC for 10 years and I reside in Austin now. I am a single father of two little girls that I have half the time and a huge part of their lives but that also leaves me with 50% of "me" time. Would love to get to know you more so if interested write back
I tried your stock e-mail with four chicks... no replies and 3 of the 4 chicks blocked me outright from even looking at their profiles again.
If you can copy/paste it, you're doing it wrong. No two should be the same, it should show in some way that you at least took the time to read her profile before messaging her.That's the thing whatever works.Copy/paste what you put down as an opener. Curious.I disagree with nearly everything you have written. But since it's working for you I'll say keep up whatever it is you're doing.Funny but "is this a real profile?" works on a few levels here:1. Most women feel compelled to let you know that they are legit and it isn't spam2. This opens them up on talking about themselves (yes, it's real and I do love to have a great time or whatever they talked about in their profile).3. Willing to bet few men question if they are legit/real4. The first part of the sentence has to be used. I'm telling them I'm the man they are looking for but if they aren't legit in what they said or if it's not real then I'm clearly not. Telling is the key.5. Also conveys to them that you think they are as interesting as they think they are Also key is that I say I am looking for someone who is attractive and smart, I never directly focus on their looks. I am dead serious in that this works more with the better looking women. Most guys will focus about their beauty when replying so what makes you different than the rest if you do the same thing.All that said it's just as important on the follow up and if they find you attractive or interesting. Finally telling them about how it's important having my kids half the time and that I'm involved seems to overshadow the other part of the message. This works for single mothers, this works (shocked at first) in much younger girls on a different level and works for women who say they aren't wanting children.This is a perfect example of different approaches working. This sounds really awful to me on nearly every level. But if it works for you rock on. "Is this a real profile?"To cut down on the time you spend you should draft up an email greeting. Mine talks about myself and what I do is usually towards the end add in something that pertains to her (likes football as well or a single parent like myself or loves to cook as I do, etc.) so it doesn't come off as a generic e-mail that she'll think you've sent to many other women.The beginning of my e-mail starts like this and has been a gold mine for me "I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real profile?" I have never gotten a negative reply back. Here's what I start if off with, may be your style or it may not and obviously you need more than an opening but besides Match I rarely don't get feedback from it. Below is what I use and after the "me" time sentence I'll sometimes put in something that she and I both like or have in common. If her profile is short or I don't see anything that we have in common I won't put anything."I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real personal profile? To be honest, I never thought I would sign up on a dating website but I know someone who did on here and said it was a great place to find someone who is attractive and smart and has it together and the kind of women I would want to meet so I browsed some of the profiles in here and saw yours and had to reply to you. I love to have fun and always up for anything and I am an excellent cook! I like to exercise and currently doing this workout called Insanity which is killing me. I was born and raised in Texas but lived in NYC for 10 years and I reside in Austin now. I am a single father of two little girls that I have half the time and a huge part of their lives but that also leaves me with 50% of "me" time. Would love to get to know you more so if interested write backMost people like to talk about themselves. And the more they talk about themselves the more they like you. So talking about yourself instead of asking questions about the other simply seems insane to me. And talking about your personality and a detailed orientation sounds like something woz would do. Whenever in doubt always ask WWWD. Then do the opposite.
Not surprisingly, Stu nails it.Cheesy/corny funny is a good thing when it comes to girls.FWIW, I never had any opener to copy/paste. It depends completely on what the girl gives me to work with. The common denominator is that it's short and light. The goal is to make her laugh and get her to look at my profile, which should again get her laughing. My OKCupid profile was almost completely ridiculous but got a ton of attention. So many profiles are painfully dull and cookie cutter.
Why degree? That doesn't equate to financially stable.Met a good girl.Pretty and very nice and friendly.I'm torn however - no college degree, not a great job but possibly the coolest chick otherwise that I've met and again very good looking. Sometimes it's not always a bad thing if someone doesn't have a degree but it diminishes any long term prospects and she's worthy of long term prospects personality wise.
Well I can see how you wouldn't be awestruck by a simpleton. I wouldn't set the bar at a degree though, there are plenty of women without a degree that you'll be challenged by and not have to support financially.
There's dozens of sites out there competing for our profiles and dollars and convinced Match has got some shady tactics going on....doesn't mean their getting you to renew with such tactics can't be beneficial for both parties. Hope it works out for you.
Thought I'd add an update to this situation where I was intrigued by a profile on a free site, got a response, but never got a second response.I ended up starting from scratch and emailed her again, never bringing up that she didn't respond to the last email. As expected she apologized for not responding to the last one and said she'd been busy and met someone but was still keeping her options open. We haven't been able to work out a time that fits both of our schedules, but I like where the conversation has headed...pretty sure we'll get together in the next couple of days. I feel like the situation was handled properly and she's now the one after me because I didn't come off as pushy or demanding...just laid back and understanding. It's easy to get overwhelmed with online dating, and it's sometimes just as easy to forget that others likely feel the same way and many will have social and active lives outside of i-dating just as you do.
Please. I almost never do this but I was standing there listening to her stupid stories so ####### long I got hungry
Lesson learned. You do the mini-golf to assess the gal and, if things are not going well, you get out of dodge after you're done golfing. You should have never asked her to go out afterwards if she was so annoying. Stick with the original plan. She must have been real good looking if you wanted to deal with all her rambling - thinking with the wrong head were ya?
I tried your stock e-mail with four chicks... no replies and 3 of the 4 chicks blocked me outright from even looking at their profiles again.I tried the Goggins' form e-mail approach (almost verbatim) tonight. It was partly on a lark, and partly because I need a new approach. Looking forward to seeing if I get any responses here...When I tried Match I was pretty experienced and successful with the whole on-line "dating" thing. At that point I had pretty much used all the free sites. Heard nothing but great things so gave it a shot and pretty much was an epic fail. I thought perhaps it's because it's a paid site, I was really baffled. I ended up signing up and paying on another site and like the free sites I was successful. If I was successful with Match I wouldn't have cared that I got a lot of spam e-mails but that compounded my frustration.
To cut down on the time you spend you should draft up an email greeting. Mine talks about myself and what I do is usually towards the end add in something that pertains to her (likes football as well or a single parent like myself or loves to cook as I do, etc.) so it doesn't come off as a generic e-mail that she'll think you've sent to many other women.
The beginning of my e-mail starts like this and has been a gold mine for me "I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real profile?" I have never gotten a negative reply back. Here's what I start if off with, may be your style or it may not and obviously you need more than an opening but besides Match I rarely don't get feedback from it. Below is what I use and after the "me" time sentence I'll sometimes put in something that she and I both like or have in common. If her profile is short or I don't see anything that we have in common I won't put anything.
"I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real personal profile? To be honest, I never thought I would sign up on a dating website but I know someone who did on here and said it was a great place to find someone who is attractive and smart and has it together and the kind of women I would want to meet so I browsed some of the profiles in here and saw yours and had to reply to you. I love to have fun and always up for anything and I am an excellent cook! I like to exercise and currently doing this workout called Insanity which is killing me. I was born and raised in Texas but lived in NYC for 10 years and I reside in Austin now. I am a single father of two little girls that I have half the time and a huge part of their lives but that also leaves me with 50% of "me" time. Would love to get to know you more so if interested write back
ETA: Just enough information but not overload. When she replies I then go into my personality and a bit more detailed oriented. Generally found the few sentence initial e-mail or the one that reads like a book doesn't work. Just enough information to wet their appetite and get them to respond.
Which site? That's never ever happened to me.
As I mentioned, Match.com for me I totally struck out in regards to meeting someone I was interested in. To this point this site is the ONLY place where I struck out. That said, I've heard people doing well on this site but I'm completely
why I don't do well while that's never happened with me on other free and paid sites.So say good-bye and hit the drive thru.Please. I almost never do this but I was standing there listening to her stupid stories so ####### long I got hungry
And as I mentioned I usually don't. What I'll do is second to last line I'll thrown in something that's specific to her profile unless her profile is generic and doesn't say anything different about herself from the others.For example one girl in one of her pictures had on long pink socks that went to her knees. What I did at the end was say it's always been a rule that any girl who wears long pink socks I have to reply to them. It's a written rule for me. She's already written me back and setting up a date sometime later in the week.If you can copy/paste it, you're doing it wrong. No two should be the same, it should show in some way that you at least took the time to read her profile before messaging her.That's the thing whatever works.Copy/paste what you put down as an opener. Curious.I disagree with nearly everything you have written. But since it's working for you I'll say keep up whatever it is you're doing.Funny but "is this a real profile?" works on a few levels here:1. Most women feel compelled to let you know that they are legit and it isn't spam2. This opens them up on talking about themselves (yes, it's real and I do love to have a great time or whatever they talked about in their profile).3. Willing to bet few men question if they are legit/real4. The first part of the sentence has to be used. I'm telling them I'm the man they are looking for but if they aren't legit in what they said or if it's not real then I'm clearly not. Telling is the key.5. Also conveys to them that you think they are as interesting as they think they are Also key is that I say I am looking for someone who is attractive and smart, I never directly focus on their looks. I am dead serious in that this works more with the better looking women. Most guys will focus about their beauty when replying so what makes you different than the rest if you do the same thing.All that said it's just as important on the follow up and if they find you attractive or interesting. Finally telling them about how it's important having my kids half the time and that I'm involved seems to overshadow the other part of the message. This works for single mothers, this works (shocked at first) in much younger girls on a different level and works for women who say they aren't wanting children.This is a perfect example of different approaches working. This sounds really awful to me on nearly every level. But if it works for you rock on. "Is this a real profile?"To cut down on the time you spend you should draft up an email greeting. Mine talks about myself and what I do is usually towards the end add in something that pertains to her (likes football as well or a single parent like myself or loves to cook as I do, etc.) so it doesn't come off as a generic e-mail that she'll think you've sent to many other women.The beginning of my e-mail starts like this and has been a gold mine for me "I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real profile?" I have never gotten a negative reply back. Here's what I start if off with, may be your style or it may not and obviously you need more than an opening but besides Match I rarely don't get feedback from it. Below is what I use and after the "me" time sentence I'll sometimes put in something that she and I both like or have in common. If her profile is short or I don't see anything that we have in common I won't put anything."I'm definitely the man you are looking for but first is this a real personal profile? To be honest, I never thought I would sign up on a dating website but I know someone who did on here and said it was a great place to find someone who is attractive and smart and has it together and the kind of women I would want to meet so I browsed some of the profiles in here and saw yours and had to reply to you. I love to have fun and always up for anything and I am an excellent cook! I like to exercise and currently doing this workout called Insanity which is killing me. I was born and raised in Texas but lived in NYC for 10 years and I reside in Austin now. I am a single father of two little girls that I have half the time and a huge part of their lives but that also leaves me with 50% of "me" time. Would love to get to know you more so if interested write back
You guys are killing me with this. 
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