VaTerp 579 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Since Rapoport essentially works for the league I think his reports carry extra weight.Gordon's test being in the 2013 league year is very problematic and I think 8 games may be the best we can hope for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bolzano 64 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 NFLPA hasn't received league's response to latest edits on drug policy. Game tomorrow. So, rep vote now unlikely before Friday.https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/509848877998960640 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dblock05 45 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 NFLPA hasn't received league's response to latest edits on drug policy. Game tomorrow. So, rep vote now unlikely before Friday.https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/509848877998960640Lovely! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justinl 9 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Haha, offered Wes Welker for Josh Gordon, met with a counter offer of a big FU... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
(HULK) 1,920 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple Jack 4,747 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Since Rapoport essentially works for the league I think his reports carry extra weight.Gordon's test being in the 2013 league year is very problematic and I think 8 games may be the best we can hope for.Since Rappaport works for the league, I think his reports are more likely to say what the league wants them to say.I think Gordon will be all or nothing. I don't see any logic that ends in a reduced suspension. Now payment for games missed is another issue. Edited September 11, 2014 by Apple Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bulger2holt 138 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Guarantee Gordon will get something. Either 4,6 or 8 games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple Jack 4,747 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Guarantee Gordon will get something. Either 4,6 or 8 games.On what are you basing this guarantee? And on what logic? He's already gotten "something." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bulger2holt 138 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Guarantee Gordon will get something. Either 4,6 or 8 games. On what are you basing this guarantee? And on what logic? He's already gotten "something."Just saying he isn't going to just step right in and play if the rule gets changed. He will be sitting out several games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple Jack 4,747 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Guarantee Gordon will get something. Either 4,6 or 8 games. On what are you basing this guarantee? And on what logic? He's already gotten "something."Just saying he isn't going to just step right in and play if the rule gets changed. He will be sitting out several games.For what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 7,014 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 60% of the time, Josh Gordon is reinstated every time. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shadyridr 14,320 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Lmao at 8 games. You guys just pulling numbers put of your asses now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gustavo Fring 461 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Guarantee Gordon will get something. Either 4,6 or 8 games. On what are you basing this guarantee? And on what logic? He's already gotten "something."Just saying he isn't going to just step right in and play if the rule gets changed. He will be sitting out several games.For what?He may not be able to break his contract with the car dealership... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 579 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Since Rapoport essentially works for the league I think his reports carry extra weight.Gordon's test being in the 2013 league year is very problematic and I think 8 games may be the best we can hope for.Since Rappaport works for the league, I think his reports are more likely to say what the league wants them to say.I think Gordon will be all or nothing. I don't see any logic that ends in a reduced suspension. Now payment for games missed is another issue.Yes, and that carries weight IMO.People keep saying it's all or nothing but I disagree. If they come to an agreement on an adjusted or reduced suspension for Gordon then that's what they do.He may not get immediate reinstatement like those suspended in this league year but a reduction definitely appears to be on the table. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 7,014 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'm placing a bid on Richard Gordon (KC TE) because there's just no way I come out of the WW process tonight without a Gordon on my team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 579 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Lmao at 8 games. You guys just pulling numbers put of your asses now?Lmao at people who lmao at everything.Jay Glazer and others have speculated 8 games so it's not just out of asses. Plus even if it were, the NFL sometimes seems to pull their suspension lengths out of their asses themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bolzano 64 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Since Rapoport essentially works for the league I think his reports carry extra weight.Gordon's test being in the 2013 league year is very problematic and I think 8 games may be the best we can hope for.Since Rappaport works for the league, I think his reports are more likely to say what the league wants them to say.I think Gordon will be all or nothing. I don't see any logic that ends in a reduced suspension. Now payment for games missed is another issue.Right, and recall what Peliserro stated yesterday. If the NFLPA has its way, then Gordon's suspension will be lifted.Union wants standards of new policy enforced on any player suspended since March 11, 2014. Lot of guys could have cases reviewed.https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/509422714117832704 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple Jack 4,747 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Why couldn't tmz release this video after Gordon was reinstated....I keep waiting for TMZ to release a video of Josh Gordon smoking a joint.Heads in here would explode.I keep waiting for you guys to add a hog-leg hanging from the helmet of the football emoticon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDirtyWord 948 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) This is from Will Caroll @injuryexpert. He's a pretty credible source when it comes to this stuff..@injuryexpert: Don't rush to pick up Josh Gordon his drug test took place in league year 2013. The new league year seems to be cutoff in talks.If NFL and NFLPA came to an agreement on testing on March 12, second day of new year, would they pursue suspension for transgressions taking place in 2013? Edited September 11, 2014 by TheDirtyWord Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayhawks 2,232 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 It sounds to me like it's 100% certain that IF it passes, Gordon's suspension will 100% be reviewed and might be adjusted or eliminated. Mort meant that with probability 1 the HGH/ drug policy being discussed includes a provision that will result in the immediate reinstatement of Gordon, Welker, etc. The inference is that Mort's sources are infallible, the particular provision that we're concerned about has already been agreed upon, etc. However, he implied that it's still uncertain that both parties agree to the overarching deal.Do we think that his source is the same source from Monday who told him a deal had been reached and the vote would be Tuesday? Because that guy doesn't seem all that reliable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePhatty 694 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Lmao at 8 games. You guys just pulling numbers put of your asses now?I think that's where Goodell gets his ideas regarding suspension lengths, so why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dagwood 39 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Lmao at 8 games. You guys just pulling numbers put of your asses now?Lmao at people who lmao at everything.Jay Glazer and others have speculated 8 games so it's not just out of asses. Plus even if it were, the NFL sometimes seems to pull their suspension lengths out of their asses themselves.Everything Jay Glazer says is out of asses....If it happens this week, his suspension will be reduced to one game. Time served. If it happens next week, 2 games time served and everyone will be happy. That's my out of ### guess after listening to all the pundits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mbrasi 57 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Rapaport just said on air that his suspension could be 'reduced'. Now if they give him 8 games , that's a disaster to those going all in on these waivers tonight or last night.Now I didn't go all in for Gorden, got him on the cheap before Thurs night game BUT, if I get Week 9+ with Gorden even if I sent all my money, I'm a happy man. You just need the team to get you into playoff contention without him. Then BOOM, I'm going to Gordon all over my league.On another note, I will need to find a new hobby when this thread dies...I won't know what to do with the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 579 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Lmao at 8 games. You guys just pulling numbers put of your asses now?Lmao at people who lmao at everything.Jay Glazer and others have speculated 8 games so it's not just out of asses. Plus even if it were, the NFL sometimes seems to pull their suspension lengths out of their asses themselves.Everything Jay Glazer says is out of asses....If it happens this week, his suspension will be reduced to one game. Time served. If it happens next week, 2 games time served and everyone will be happy. That's my out of ### guess after listening to all the pundits.Glazer has broken numerous stories that have turned about to be true but if you want to think everything he says is out of asses and compare it to yourself then go with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mbrasi 57 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Lmao at 8 games. You guys just pulling numbers put of your asses now?Lmao at people who lmao at everything.Jay Glazer and others have speculated 8 games so it's not just out of asses. Plus even if it were, the NFL sometimes seems to pull their suspension lengths out of their asses themselves.Everything Jay Glazer says is out of asses....If it happens this week, his suspension will be reduced to one game. Time served. If it happens next week, 2 games time served and everyone will be happy. That's my out of ### guess after listening to all the pundits.I'm going to throw this out of my ###, since I haven't heard it yetBOLD PREDICTION: If it happens this week they will retroactively give a victory to Cleveland and a loss to Pittsburgh because it would be assumed he would've went 10/120/2 on Sunday.Also, if you started him last week you will get those points added to your team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tanner9919 392 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 even 8 weeks of Gordon is still better than 16 weeks of Fitzgerald, Cruz, etc..I'd never look a gift horse in the mouth..if I got Gordon off waivers tonight, for a power-packed final 8 weeks of the season, I'd be thrilled..Gordon coming back earlier is just icing on the cake.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freelove 617 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Lmao at 8 games. You guys just pulling numbers put of your asses now?Now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bulger2holt 138 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 even 8 weeks of Gordon is still better than 16 weeks of Fitzgerald, Cruz, etc..I'd never look a gift horse in the mouth..if I got Gordon off waivers tonight, for a power-packed final 8 weeks of the season, I'd be thrilled..Gordon coming back earlier is just icing on the cake..That's how I see it too. Don't think it's going to quite be 8 though. I'm thinking 4 or 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bolzano 64 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) It sounds to me like it's 100% certain that IF it passes, Gordon's suspension will 100% be reviewed and might be adjusted or eliminated. Mort meant that with probability 1 the HGH/ drug policy being discussed includes a provision that will result in the immediate reinstatement of Gordon, Welker, etc. The inference is that Mort's sources are infallible, the particular provision that we're concerned about has already been agreed upon, etc. However, he implied that it's still uncertain that both parties agree to the overarching deal.Do we think that his source is the same source from Monday who told him a deal had been reached and the vote would be Tuesday? Because that guy doesn't seem all that reliable.I was just clarifying his statement. If Mort's credibility is dubious, then his report shouldn't change your opinion much. Edited September 11, 2014 by bolzano Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I Am the Stig 106 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Can we just pin this thread for all time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FlapJacks 215 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Can we just pin this thread for all time?best thread since the David Wilson thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew74 948 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Can we just pin this thread for all time?best thread since the David Wilson threadLet's hope it ends better for Gordon, for his sake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dschuler 910 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 This Ray Rice issue can only help Gordon as the NFL dropping the ball gives more leverage to the NFLPA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phenomena 331 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If Gordon gets reinstated this has the potential to be the greatest football forum thread of all time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ponchsox 622 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The JG thread at rotoworld keeps getting locked because of too many gifs, lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobcat10 1,978 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I have to believe the NFLPA wants Gordon playing and the NFL wants HGH testing (and probably Gordon on the field as well). People really think the NFL is going to haggle about Gordon? I'm failing to see the reasons here outside of grumps who don't have him on their fantasy team right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ponchsox 622 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Can we just pin this thread for all time?best thread since the David Wilson thread It it will deliver. Something Wilson, Finley, and Torain couldn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matuski 4,959 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If Gordon gets re-instated, in one of my FPC leagues I will have these 6 WRs - Antonio Brown; Josh Gordon; Andre Johnson; Larry Fitzgerald; Marques Colston; Percy Harvin.....I know none of you care about my teams so keep those comments with you.....but I will have no clue which two to bench every week....my head will indeed explode....and I know you want to know the rest of my team - I still have McCoy; Frank Gore; Moreno and Woodhead at RB and Nick Foles at QB.....CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!My team is way better than that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 7,014 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 90.2% of my budget because why the #### not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rick James 887 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 90.2% of my budget because why the #### not? I went $958 in the FPC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da Gildz 153 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 90.2% of my budget because why the #### not? I went $958 in the FPC.Hope you're not in my league, I went $959. Ha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 7,014 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Oh, looks like I wont be getting him then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewtown 65 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) I bid $994...When does this thing cycle??? Edited September 11, 2014 by Brewtown Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phenomena 331 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 90.2% of my budget because why the #### not?I went $958 in the FPC.I went $990 in the MFL$200k ... LAST FRIDAY. And got him. Gamblin' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LarryAllen'sJockstrap 136 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 90.2% of my budget because why the #### not?I went $958 in the FPC. I went $990 in the MFL$200k ... LAST FRIDAY. And got him. Gamblin'I went all in; $1004. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rick James 887 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Only reason I didn't go 1000 is because you can't do $0 pickups in the FPC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdswan922 11 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I cant believe how many clowns are on this board1? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 7,014 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'm like the only ####### who didn't go over $950 eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da Gildz 153 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 He went for $995 in my 1st league. Oh boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bulger2holt 138 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I cant believe how many clowns are on this board1?I approve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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