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WR Josh Gordon, KC (3 Viewers)
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Apple Jack
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NJ
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Damn, Mort was just on ESPN live and didn't specifically address Josh Gordon, but he did talk about immediate reinstatement being an issue and that teams were complaining that they are at a competitive disadvantage not having time to game plan this week for players being reinstated. He said he doesn't think they will play on Sunday. Speculated an agreement might be that they get their week 2 game checks but aren't actually reinstated until Monday or Tuesday.
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right. and gordon would have tested negative under the new rules.
its called double standards. ppl are ok with it bc they are racist. its really that simple.
I Am the Stig
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I Am the Stig
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Welker is white.
It's gotten bad in here today. Let's tone it down please.
I Am the Stig
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Some have speculated that there is a fourth offense out there.
But there is nothing official either.
dschuler
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I feel like so many of these suspensions are just pulled out of a hat. There should be a written instruction for this kind of stuff that is black and white. Gordon and Welker. Suspended and Unsuspended. Oh wait...
Ditka Butkus
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I'm not in the welker thread because he violated the policy and was punished according to the bylaws almost immediately.....So great no problem....If you take a look around you will find I am not for retroactive reinstatement for anybody...I'm a firm believer in if you can't do the time don't do the crime.....What was your point again?
Oh yeah and by the way how many times did Welker violate the terms of the agreement,
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Ditka Butkus
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MAC_32
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this is why it's difficult to sit and wait, stuff is going to happen to the rest of your roster, you need the roster spot you're using to stash Gordon.
ponchsox
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dschuler
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There are numerous sources now coming out with ten games. Just a load of horse crap. This league makes zero sense, makes me wonder what they are gonna do with ADP
Proust Loves Cake
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Ditka Butkus
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Raiderfan32904
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I don't know I'd it's been mentioned, but I read a report from the AP speculating an extra 2 games if convicted of DUI. So this might be 12 games. On the bright side, should be back for the fantasy playoffs...that's something? Right? : yes:
Welker got popped for ecstasy cut with amphetamines. Since amphetamines were considered a PED under the old policy, he was suspended under the PED protocols (i.e. first offense = 4 games). However, Welker was grandfathered in to the new policy which lists ecstasy (and amphetamines) as a substance of abuse and hence he's being disciplined under the substance of abuse protocols (i.e. first offense = no suspension).
Gordon was not grandfathered in to the new marijuana policy, since his last failed test occurred during the 2013 league year. However, they are applying the new discipline protocols to his case and hence his suspension is reduced from 16 games to 10.
Apple Jack
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Ditka Butkus
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There is absolutely no place for facts in this thread...I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
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shadyridr
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depends how much weed he smoked when he beat his son
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MAC_32
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I don't have him anywhere because I don't want the dead roster spot. The owners that do have him a re not going to do that because they want to wait for the playoff pot of gold. Problem is what happens between now and then. It's going to take a specific action for them to make the drop/trade. They will need to be extremely lucky to be able to hold onto him and not run into other problems along the way.
Donny Loved Bowling
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I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe this issue has already been addressed. But why is the most recent test considered his 4th violation? The old policy dictated a yearlong suspension for a third violation. So isn't this his third? What did I miss?
MAC_32
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Josh likes the reefer.
Why is it ten yards to make a first down?
Ten is the rule under the new policy; that's how many games a player in Gordon's position is suspended for a positive test. (And the test is positive because it was conducted under the old policy.)
If you want to put it in terms of all or none, ten games is "all."
The one-year suspension he was handed down under the old policy is gone (or will be gone once a new agreement is reached). It will reportedly be replaced by a new 10-game suspension to be handed down under the new policy.
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The new policy is retroactive back to the beginning of the league year, which is March 11, 2014.
That's not BS. That's perfectly sensible. In fact, it's quite favorable to the players.
Think about how rules are changed in your own fantasy leagues. They're usually not retroactive at all. They usually don't take effect until next year. But when they do take effect during the current year, they'll only be enforced back to the beginning of the year. They're not going to go back and change results from the previous year.
Gordon's positive test occurred during the previous year. His suspension was handed down this year. That's why they're not disturbing the test results, but are adjusting the length of the suspension.
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skinsrule05
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Bobcat10
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Bobcat10
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What are you asking?
Ray Rice is not affected by the new drug policy. The new domestic violence policy -- like most policies -- is not retroactive.
If you're asking why he was punished twice for the same thing, I think that's a good question.
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Donny Loved Bowling
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But this is supposed to be Gordon's third violation. As determined by the punishment he was given under the old policy. Third violation = indefinite suspension, possible reinstatement after 1 year.
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Bobcat10
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Ok, so it's not retroactive. That works. I have not read the new abuse policy. And yes, being punished twice for the same thing is a good question...the NFL has more black eyes to come from that situation.
Bobcat10
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We apparently don't know about this other secret violation yet. But Mary Cay does.
shadyridr
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yeah nobody has answered this question
