Mjolnirs Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 40 minutes ago, stbugs said: Stop being dooshy man. I know exactly what dragon glass is and exactly when it has been used. See my post above. I was thinking all of Sam's stash got lost at Hardhome. I forgot he gave some to Bran's team. I was wondering if it was a weapon from the children that she picked up or maybe even a spear a wight dropped. Feel free to pinpoint the exact moment in the show where they made spears with the dragon glass because you seem to know exactly which spear she picked up. Seriously, there are some people who don't appear to watch. I do and was asking a legitimate question, because I don't remember her having a spear with it on it. Your post saying you knew about Dragon Glass came after (or maybe during) my post. You first post made it sound like you didn't and with so any folks in here not remembering most of what happened in previous episodes, I figured examples were needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoresman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 http://i.imgur.com/Tx4CorF.jpg 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoresman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 There's some sexual tension between Jon and Sansa. I bet once its revealed that Jon is the chosen Targarean or whatever, they end up together and Sansa is queen again but this time with a decent husband. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stbugs Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mjolnirs said: Your post saying you knew about Dragon Glass came after (or maybe during) my post. You first post made it sound like you didn't and with so any folks in here not remembering most of what happened in previous episodes, I figured examples were needed. My reply was dooshy too, but your first reply was this: Quote Seriously? Dragon Glass, ever heard of it? The guy asking about warging is obviously fishing, but maybe he is really just that dense. I know all about all of dragon glass and where it has been in the show. I did forget Sam gave Bran some, but now I do recall that part. It is hard to remember every single scene in the show. That said, Meera just grabbed a spear that killed the white walker. I am 99.9% certain that I don't recall them making any spears on their journey (I could be wrong), so I was legitimately wondering if there was something more to it. For instance, are the white walkers vulnerable to anything when in the presence of the raven guy/tree? We never saw the children with spears, they just used the fireballs. It was likely just a spear with dragon glass and that's that, but I wanted to ask. I probably worded it wrong, but oh well. I haven't ever posted anything like "where did that teenager in the tree come from, I don't recall him in the first few seasons and why do his eyes turn white?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Damn quote feature sucks on this board.... Why doesn't Bran just go back in time, warg into Cersi and the whole thing is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Pretty sure the spear was dragon glass. The cave is old, dragon glass tends to appear as relics either from the First Men or the Children. Makes sense that either or both of them would have been in this particular spot at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whomper Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The show creators were very hesitant to dive in to all of the flashback stuff with Bran. In their words , they never did flashbacks because they called it "Lazy storytelling" . Brans story line did make it inevitable that there would be looks back in to the past and they have been pretty awesome IMO. I don't think you will see many major plot changes due to interference by Bran unless it is a big part of GRRM's endgame . If that is the case, I think it would really devalue the whole thing as one of the posters above said. Please dont let bran reverse the earths orbit to change history superman style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whomper Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 People questioned why Meera could kill that walker with the spear because one of the children tried right before Meera threw the spear and it didnt work for her. I guess it was a different type of spear that had the dragon glass tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrot Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, rascal said: Damn quote feature sucks on this board.... Why doesn't Bran just go back in time, warg into Cersi and the whole thing is over. Bran doesn't seem to have much control over where or when he goes to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koya Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, parrot said: Bran doesn't seem to have much control over where or when he goes to. Nor does he have much control over the ####ty quote feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAristocrat Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 30 minutes ago, Scoresman said: http://i.imgur.com/Tx4CorF.jpg I laughed out loud. Some great acting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockroach Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 32 minutes ago, Drifter said: In an episode where so many people sacrifice their lives for Bran to live, Hodor's is the ultimate, because it literally was his entire life that was sacrificed, not just his death. It's pretty powerful stuff and pretty brilliant by Martin. As someone who feels they live a pretty purpose-less life only for their own self-satisfaction, that scene brought tears to my eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 What does the 30 seconds of Hodor's efforts buy anyway? We are supposed to believe that Mereen is going to be able to drag Bran far enough away from an army that was able to traverse untold of miles to get to the tree so fast? BTW, I guess one good thing is that the number white walker kings has been cut from 5 to 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuke Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, rascal said: What does the 30 seconds of Hodor's efforts buy anyway? We are supposed to believe that Mereen is going to be able to drag Bran far enough away from an army that was able to traverse untold of miles to get to the tree so fast? BTW, I guess one good thing is that the number white walker kings has been cut from 5 to 3. Hodor 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 minute ago, rascal said: What does the 30 seconds of Hodor's efforts buy anyway? We are supposed to believe that Mereen is going to be able to drag Bran far enough away from an army that was able to traverse untold of miles to get to the tree so fast? BTW, I guess one good thing is that the number white walker kings has been cut from 5 to 3. It never really shows them breaking through the door, so who knows how long Hodor held out for. And why didn't the children lady just throw that ball, instead of the self sacrifice bomb, that slowed them down for like 1 second, maybe. And why not just hook the sled up to the direwolf and have the direwolf get them the fck out of there. Besides, the whole this is moot anyway, because the King "branded" Bran, to know exactly where he is. Even if they get out of there, he's just going to know his every location, unless they cut his arm off, or find some other children of the forest that have been hiding out to remove the brand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockroach Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Now whenever I'm walking into a building and someone holds the door for me, instead of thanks, I'll be giving a smile and a head nod and giving them a gracious, "Hodor!" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, rascal said: What does the 30 seconds of Hodor's efforts buy anyway? We are supposed to believe that Mereen is going to be able to drag Bran far enough away from an army that was able to traverse untold of miles to get to the tree so fast? BTW, I guess one good thing is that the number white walker kings has been cut from 5 to 3. I agree this was a bit weak. I think the answer lies in the army of the dead. They have no brains on their own. They are told to kill, they kill what they see. They have no ability to think on their own, to choose to track (or have the ability to track). The White Walkers are still some distance away in the mound and maybe at this point either are writing Bran off as not a thread now that the thee eyed crow is dead or were somehow otherwise impacted by the death of one of their number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rascal said: What does the 30 seconds of Hodor's efforts buy anyway? We are supposed to believe that Mereen is going to be able to drag Bran far enough away from an army that was able to traverse untold of miles to get to the tree so fast? BTW, I guess one good thing is that the number white walker kings has been cut from 5 to 3. The WW's objective appeared to be to get the three eyed Raven. They didn't seem particularly interested in tracking Meera and Bran, and the zombies appear to lack agency. Maybe getting out of sight was enough. And don't forget the WW Sam killed. For unstoppable killing machines their casualty rate in these random encounters and skirmishes has been pretty high. Edited May 23, 2016 by thecatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stbugs Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, rascal said: What does the 30 seconds of Hodor's efforts buy anyway? We are supposed to believe that Mereen is going to be able to drag Bran far enough away from an army that was able to traverse untold of miles to get to the tree so fast? BTW, I guess one good thing is that the number white walker kings has been cut from 5 to 3. I was thinking about the number of white walkers as well. Didn't the king create new walkers (not the zombie-like wights) with the babies from Gilly's girls. They seemed to be producing kids quite a bit for a long time, so it seems like there are far less white walkers than I figured there would be. Is there a padawan training center we don't know about? Do we know enough about them to have any clue on this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, thecatch said: And don't forget the WW Sam killed. For unstoppable killing machines their casualty rate in this random encounters and skirmishes, where the opposition has access to Dragonglass and/or wielding a Valaryian sword, has been pretty high. * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkley Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I like the new, badass Sansa but it seems like she picked a fight with Little Finger too soon. And i predict that Bran worgs into a dragon at some point, maybe even during the eventual climactic fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBaGeL Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Funkley said: And i predict that Bran worgs into a dragon at some point, maybe even during the eventual climactic fight. Way to go out on a limb there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadstroma Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 24 minutes ago, Spin said: It never really shows them breaking through the door, so who knows how long Hodor held out for. And why didn't the children lady just throw that ball, instead of the self sacrifice bomb, that slowed them down for like 1 second, maybe. And why not just hook the sled up to the direwolf and have the direwolf get them the fck out of there. Besides, the whole this is moot anyway, because the King "branded" Bran, to know exactly where he is. Even if they get out of there, he's just going to know his every location, unless they cut his arm off, or find some other children of the forest that have been hiding out to remove the brand. My question on the children of the forest was why not stockpile a whole lot more of those balls to chuck? I think the holding the ball was about getting as many concentrated in one area to blow as many up as possible rather than just the first rank. The Direwolf was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadstroma Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, Funkley said: I like the new, badass Sansa but it seems like she picked a fight with Little Finger too soon. And i predict that Bran worgs into a dragon at some point, maybe even during the eventual climactic fight. Most likely. Remember the shot of a dragon's shadow over King's Landing in his previous 'flash' visions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGRdrJoe Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 31 minutes ago, rascal said: What does the 30 seconds of Hodor's efforts buy anyway? We are supposed to believe that Mereen is going to be able to drag Bran far enough away from an army that was able to traverse untold of miles to get to the tree so fast? BTW, I guess one good thing is that the number white walker kings has been cut from 5 to 3. If only there was a way that we could find out what it accomplished, say maybe next Sunday night, that would be cool /Tanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Lol Funk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stbugs Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, Funkley said: I like the new, badass Sansa but it seems like she picked a fight with Little Finger too soon. And i predict that Bran worgs into a dragon at some point, maybe even during the eventual climactic fight. That's an understatement. Everything he utters has a plan to it. She has no idea what she is doing and how he just played her. I have no idea what he actually plans, but I know he played her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belljr Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 36 minutes ago, TheAristocrat said: 1 hour ago, Scoresman said: http://i.imgur.com/Tx4CorF.jpg I laughed out loud. Some great acting there. It bothers me that he is the wizard on these commericals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQsEzrLp1hQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAristocrat Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Ok, that wizard commercial was a bit unsettling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waingro Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 That Carcetti fella is definitely up to something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EYLive Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Scoresman said: http://i.imgur.com/Tx4CorF.jpg An animated gif of that would be greatness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, EYLive said: An animated gif of that would be greatness. https://twitter.com/Stephen_Douglas/status/734758609851158528 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EYLive Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I really hope Hodor crawls out from under a dumpster next week. If not, then the 30 second head start Meere got might be enough to help run into a pack of wildlings, Thenns, giants and/or mammoths to fight the wights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EYLive Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Just now, Notorious T.R.E. said: https://twitter.com/Stephen_Douglas/status/734758609851158528 I like this, and I like you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 17 minutes ago, Chadstroma said: My question on the children of the forest was why not stockpile a whole lot more of those balls to chuck? I think the holding the ball was about getting as many concentrated in one area to blow as many up as possible rather than just the first rank. The Direwolf was killed. Yah, the Direwolf made the same self sacrifice, but should have just hooked up to him before he threw himself at the wights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr roboto Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I think Bran is a talking muffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusken Raider Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, shadyridr said: The characters seem to travel at record pace this season. Sansa and Theon left winterfell, got to castle black/iron island. Littlefinger left eyre and got to the place he met sansa (I forgot the location they said) all seemingly in days. Mole's Town. Basically a truck stop along the Kingsroad on the way to Castle Black. "#ss, Grass, or Dragonglass... Nobody rides for free." Edited May 23, 2016 by Tusken Raider 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkley Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, Notorious T.R.E. said: Lol Funk. So easy to make people angry in here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, EYLive said: I really hope Hodor crawls out from under a dumpster next week. If not, then the 30 second head start Meere got might be enough to help run into a pack of wildlings, Thenns, giants and/or mammoths to fight the wights. Hoping Bran comes to next episode and wargs into Hodor to beat some ###. Love me some Hodor-tank. Interview with the actor seems like he's not coming back: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/22/game-thrones-hodor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaPolice Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Skoo said: I don't think they will, time is of the essence. One thing that cannot be argued about this season: They are moving the plotlines forward quickly. As of now they have less than 2 seasons to get everyone to King's Landing for the final battle. Yes, that can be argued. Still main plots that haven't really changed much from the start of the season: Dany, Arya, King's Landing. Agree that stuff with Bran, Night's Watch, and Sansa have been moving along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waingro Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 12 hours ago, John Bender said: Not sure in what aspect she'll be stone cold - definitely not as an assassin. This episode more or less advanced the idea that she's never going to be "no one". ETA: sick of watching her stick fighting too. her story is getting tired. Agree. Her reactions to the play showed that she was failing to let go of Arya for the assignment she was given. On a side note: that play was awesome and hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaPolice Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 hour ago, thecatch said: The WW's objective appeared to be to get the three eyed Raven. They didn't seem particularly interested in tracking Meera and Bran, and the zombies appear to lack agency. Maybe getting out of sight was enough. So why was a hoard of them chasing those 3 through the tunnel? Why were they trying to get out of the Door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 You don't think that Dany taking over the Dothraki and the Kind of the Iron islands planning to bring her a fleet aren't moving along her plotline? King's Landing will likely be culminating next week or two. They need an entire episode for that likely. They need to take the Arya stuff a bit slower because she needs to be a changed person by the time she is reintroduced to the main threads. The only other option would be to just now show her for a season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said: So why was a hoard of them chasing those 3 through the tunnel? Why were they trying to get out of the Door? Zombies don't think. They kill. They see things to kill, they chase things to kill. This really isn't that difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr00vus Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said: Yes, that can be argued. Still main plots that haven't really changed much from the start of the season: Dany, Arya, King's Landing. Sam's been on the 2nd longest boat trip of all time, right after Gendry. Edited May 23, 2016 by Gr00vus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Lambskin Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Looks like we get some Gilly next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregR Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Don't Noonan said: I have seen many of you guys use the word warg, who came up with that? Viking mythology. Refers to a giant wolf named Fenrir who bit off the hand of their war god. Tolkien borrowed the word in Lord of the Rings. The big wolves the goblins rode were wargs. GoT's meaning for it might just be GRRM's twist, dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 14 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said: So why was a hoard of them chasing those 3 through the tunnel? Why were they trying to get out of the Door? There's a difference between attacking someone right in front of you versus heading off into the wilderness looking for targets you can't see. It doesn't seem like the undead do the latter without direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuke Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 14 minutes ago, Drifter said: Zombies don't think. They kill. They see things to kill, they chase things to kill. This really isn't that difficult. They're controlled by the white walkers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Pete Malloy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Porkchop Express said: If you accept X then you must accept everything else is a tired and lame argument. Not when it comes to the Fantasy genre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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