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I should have went to bed after Timchode butchered his take on Hiroshima. Christ almighty.
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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (1 Viewer)
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KarmaPolice
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SaintsInDome2006
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Last episode and this one, why *did Jon reject Dany?
hagmania
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Quint
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It’s little things:
The One Shot of Arya trying to get the woman who saved her earlier, and daughter, out was really well done.
Also, Arya on the White Horse a little too on-the-nose for a vanquisher? (I think she takes Dany down, much to Jon’s dismay.)
loved the score/soundtrack.
The One Shot of Arya trying to get the woman who saved her earlier, and daughter, out was really well done.
Also, Arya on the White Horse a little too on-the-nose for a vanquisher? (I think she takes Dany down, much to Jon’s dismay.)
loved the score/soundtrack.
ConnSKINS26
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I mean...incest.
But more importantly I don't think he could ever shake seeing her first reaction to his lineage. Her first thought was about her throne and power, not their relationship. She made it all business before he did, in that moment.
Then until tonight he, like Tyrion, convinced himself that flash of the real Dany he saw wasn't what she is...even though he couldn't shake it after that.
He could never see her the same after that talk imo, not even just the Aunt thing. Sam had already made that comment about her thirst for power too.
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Dragon and Direwolf deaths are worse than the human ones. Particularly when they are stupid and pointless
KarmaPolice
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Wasn't there a S1 scene where Arya was running around beneath the Keep chasing cats for training? I thought for sure she would head that way and run into Jaime and Cersei.
zoonation
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I don't think Jon wants anything to do with her now that she went all Hitler on King’s Landing.
Mad King has nothing on his daughter. He was going to torch the city when he wAs on the verge of defeat.
She torched the city after she won.
Only the night king has her on innocent kills.
ConnSKINS26
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There was. The same scene I believe where she overhears and we learn for the first time that Varys is actually supporting Dany overseas. Oh how it all ends up.
Good Posting Judge
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If she doesn't torch anything, then she's the hero, the bad guys lose, and she takes over. Maybe kind of boring from the showrunners' perspective.
If she just torches the Red Keep, you can still get your end with Cersei and Jaime, and the Cleganes I guess. Several thousand innocents die, but it's obviously not as bad as wrecking the entire city. But that creates a morally ambiguous situation, and the writers of this show aren't capable of handling that, honestly. They need a new despot, a very clearly marked "Bad Guy", who will be schemed against and inevitably killed by our very clearly marked "Good Guys." Even though she's always made a point of being able to clearly delineate the oppressors from the oppressed and treated them accordingly, apparently we're supposed to buy (and a lot of you did, unsurprisingly. not in small part, I'm sure, because the recap before the episode showed Dany hearing different voices in rapid succession, the old cliche for someone going completely crazy) that she's gone full-blown cuckoo. Because she had a couple pals die.
Ned Stark waking up and saying "Oh man, what a crazy dream" and then Bran coming running in would be better than this.
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Here's another one. You mooks are so used to being spoonfed what you want, that you piss and moan when someone dies in a manner that you don't find befitting that person's moral choices. Almost nobody in the manner they deserve! Little kids are in school buses that go off ravines, and Henry Kissinger will probably die comfortably in his bed somewhere.
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Naw man, you have to understand that Jamie defined love with Cersie, imagine never knowing a time that you were not in love with her, your whole life.
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Capella is a strange bird. He needs this thread to validate things for him, which means, love it like he does. When he doesn't get his validation, it makes him question himself and then that starts to make him angry. Its a confused anger that's all it is.
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Kevrunner
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Japan didn’t surrender until “after” the US dropped the bombs. It’s a pretty big difference if you ask me. Dany went mad, I think even Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles could see that.
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Book a cruise, pack nothing except every internet-enabled device you own, a potato sack, and a 20 lb. weight. When you're in the open sea, think about what you've done, put all of your computers in the sack, tie the weight to it, and throw it to the bottom of the ocean where they belong.
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Hated the burn it all down turn. It was visually stunning and emotionally gripping but such a quick turn for the breaker of chains. She completely dishonored her role in turning away from her throne to fight the dead to save all of mankind. I mean there were still plenty of signs since that all she still cared about was her spot on the throne. Jorah Mormont must be spinning in his grave.
As a side note, Samwell Tarly is the indirect butcher of Kings Landing. He saved Jorah from dragonscale and Jorah saved Khaleesi in the battle against the dead.
Jon must kill Dany now. What a bittersweet end of the show, which we have heard all along would be the emotional place it takes us.
As a side note, Samwell Tarly is the indirect butcher of Kings Landing. He saved Jorah from dragonscale and Jorah saved Khaleesi in the battle against the dead.
Jon must kill Dany now. What a bittersweet end of the show, which we have heard all along would be the emotional place it takes us.
I mean, even if Dany was expecting it this time, the bad guys still hit a dragon 3 times from like 2 miles away last week, and this week Drogon dodges hundreds of those things and wins the war himself. I loved the episode and this is much more in line with how the books discuss dragon warfare, but I’m also not surprised people are having some whiplash on this point.
Mrs. Rannous
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Perhaps Jaime and Cersei are trapped and badly injured, and he kills her so she doesn't suffer any more.
skol asylum
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This is Anakin going into the temple and slaughtering all the Jedi children only a thousand times worse. He had his flawed reasons but Dany had really no reason to just start frying all the innocent civilians.
Sebowski
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Varys was up writing to ravens for nights on end before he got got. You know one of those ended up going to Littlefinger. He's going to be none to happy. The nights of the vale are going to be storming the castle soon. They will have to answer to The Prince That Was Promised, Rob Stark. Mercy will not be kind to his foes, those of the knights watch. The Baratheon name will not go undead when Yara weds Gendry and unites the kingdoms to bring just a spring of hope against the winter that is coming. Dire Wolves will roar as dragons sail throughout the kingdoms of nights to come. Stanis will have his great battle with Benjen, the dead (what is dead may never die) at the high septor while The Blackfish undertakes the kuw of the sand snakes to overcome the Mad King and finally sit on the throne of swords to the dismay of the children of the forrest who are vanished to the trees of the red keep to guard the eternal flames of the dead. In my, imo.
Ilov80s
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All the bad things that happened to her this season were results of her acting totally out of character. When they defeated the Night King she just sulked and slunk back. Normally she would have acted like a queen, put on the pomp, delivered a rousing speech and won everyone over. Nobody would have turned on her if she hadn’t started acting like a totally different character than she had been all series. Why did Missandei die? Because Dany sails into a trap because “she forgot about the iron fleet”. Huh?
The decisions to get us here were forced imo.
Ilov80s
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Agreed. I liked that arc and death a lot. It was fitting and even robbed that #### character Euron his dying joy that he killed the Kingslayer.
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timschochet
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All right, in retrospect my comments last night regarding Hiroshima were a bit silly, Lol. Derision was well deserved.
Good speculation here about Arya still needing to kill someone with “green eyes”. Dany?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/5/13/18617284/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-5-arya-kills-daenerys-green-eyes
Good speculation here about Arya still needing to kill someone with “green eyes”. Dany?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/5/13/18617284/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-5-arya-kills-daenerys-green-eyes
otb_lifer
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a psychotic urchin strafing innocents qualifies as "entertainment"? meh, guess i'll be cool with it as it has now surely sealed her demise - Snow will most likely deliver the death blow, but i'd love if it were Sansa or Arya ... doubt the latter because she already bagged the NK - but, however it plays out will be the sweetest moment of the seies for me - gonna be a great week knowing the payoff of watching her eat #### is in the offing.
someone mentioned earlier the sudden proliferation of Unsullied/Dothraki - so, yeah, who the #### were getting trampled vs the wights? didn't we only see a dozen or so Dothraki come running back after the initial charge in e3?
Clagaene bowl/Jaime vs Euron ... both pretty ridiculous.
tipping a 40 for Varys - dude's only purpose since s1 was serving the realm - him and Littlefinger were such fantastic characters.
sad to see Cersei go, but happy about how it was delivered - shame that Headey had so little to do this season - no matter one's feelings about Cersei, there's no denying Lena has been bringing brilliance since s1e1 ... surpassing Tyrion/Dinklage the past couple seasons, mostly because they have neutered him to #### all lately - but the scene with Jaime last night was as great as he's ever been - hope he survives the silver haired freak's vengeance, though i fear he'll be dealt with before she's finally laid out.
the Red Woman's prophecies started clicking in e3, but still trying to figure why she was so adamant on saving Davos from sure death during the Stannis storyline ... she allowed that he " had a large part to play in the war to come" ... well? standing on the battlements vs the NK, then quizically on the front line last night as they entered KL - maybe it was him sparing her life after she entered Winterfell, which allowed her to perform all the feats later on, most notably the Arya pep talk. still waiting on his big moment as per her vision.
is Bran gonna do anything? where was Robyn the teat sucker? we've seen everyone else from the Vale, no?
i really wish little Lady Mormont were still around. very much so.
tl;dr - Dany's a mega #####, the rest is all secondary to her impending death.
someone mentioned earlier the sudden proliferation of Unsullied/Dothraki - so, yeah, who the #### were getting trampled vs the wights? didn't we only see a dozen or so Dothraki come running back after the initial charge in e3?
Clagaene bowl/Jaime vs Euron ... both pretty ridiculous.
tipping a 40 for Varys - dude's only purpose since s1 was serving the realm - him and Littlefinger were such fantastic characters.
sad to see Cersei go, but happy about how it was delivered - shame that Headey had so little to do this season - no matter one's feelings about Cersei, there's no denying Lena has been bringing brilliance since s1e1 ... surpassing Tyrion/Dinklage the past couple seasons, mostly because they have neutered him to #### all lately - but the scene with Jaime last night was as great as he's ever been - hope he survives the silver haired freak's vengeance, though i fear he'll be dealt with before she's finally laid out.
the Red Woman's prophecies started clicking in e3, but still trying to figure why she was so adamant on saving Davos from sure death during the Stannis storyline ... she allowed that he " had a large part to play in the war to come" ... well? standing on the battlements vs the NK, then quizically on the front line last night as they entered KL - maybe it was him sparing her life after she entered Winterfell, which allowed her to perform all the feats later on, most notably the Arya pep talk. still waiting on his big moment as per her vision.
is Bran gonna do anything? where was Robyn the teat sucker? we've seen everyone else from the Vale, no?
i really wish little Lady Mormont were still around. very much so.
tl;dr - Dany's a mega #####, the rest is all secondary to her impending death.
Otis
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Having slept on it - I realize I have been wrong about the series since the start. I always assumed the story was about the NIght King - and defeating the Night King - with the Iron Throne plot just a background story.
I initially thought the Song of Ice and Fire was about the clash between those two forces.
Eventually as we learned that songs are written about heros - I began to think the story was about Jon Snow - particularly with his background as a Stark and Targaryen - Ice and Fire.
By the end of last night's show, I was thinking maybe its about Arya - she kills the Night King, and seems on the path to kill Daenerys - thus tying Ice and Fire together.
But, I suspect that a Song of Ice and Fire is really about the two forces that effectively caused a hard re-boot for society - at least in Westeros. Night King effectively destroyed the North, and Daenerys effectively destroyed Kings Landing (the south) - leaving the survivors to pick up the pieces and forge a new beginning.
I initially thought the Song of Ice and Fire was about the clash between those two forces.
Eventually as we learned that songs are written about heros - I began to think the story was about Jon Snow - particularly with his background as a Stark and Targaryen - Ice and Fire.
By the end of last night's show, I was thinking maybe its about Arya - she kills the Night King, and seems on the path to kill Daenerys - thus tying Ice and Fire together.
But, I suspect that a Song of Ice and Fire is really about the two forces that effectively caused a hard re-boot for society - at least in Westeros. Night King effectively destroyed the North, and Daenerys effectively destroyed Kings Landing (the south) - leaving the survivors to pick up the pieces and forge a new beginning.
