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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (8 Viewers)
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AcerFC
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But why was Jon going north with the wildings when he was supposed to take the black
Man of Constant Sorrow
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glvsav37
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Man of Constant Sorrow
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You may not like my answer, but it was because he had to go to North Avalon - the Wall isn't enough.
Also, he said - FU - I'm free mf's!!!
Man of Constant Sorrow
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Mile High
Footballguy
Well you never know until it happens, but the source had the story line right for every episode.
hagmania
Footballguy
That's the thing about having your prison hundreds of miles away in the frozen tundra with an independent kingdom between you now innit
djmich
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hagmania
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The Duff Man
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1. As soon as Sansa said she was out, other kingdoms would have followed.
2. Bran’s whole thing is “I don’t care”. He does NOTHING to help with any of these battles despite having all this power. All of a sudden, power is up for grabs and he is, “Why do you think I came?”
3. Transition from Danys death to the council was very poorly done. Greyworm and the Dothraki would have gone scorched earth as soon as they found out she was dead. Especially the Dothraki.
4. I can’t see Tyrion nominating Bran over Job Snow. Based on what? Stories?! LOL. Because Bran has shown him a lot to make Tyrion believe he would be a good ruler?! One scene with the talk between them earlier this season could have lead to this. But they botched it.
I don’t have a problem with the ending they were given. They just really, really didn’t get there in a way that made sense. Which is a shame for this great story.
2. Bran’s whole thing is “I don’t care”. He does NOTHING to help with any of these battles despite having all this power. All of a sudden, power is up for grabs and he is, “Why do you think I came?”
3. Transition from Danys death to the council was very poorly done. Greyworm and the Dothraki would have gone scorched earth as soon as they found out she was dead. Especially the Dothraki.
4. I can’t see Tyrion nominating Bran over Job Snow. Based on what? Stories?! LOL. Because Bran has shown him a lot to make Tyrion believe he would be a good ruler?! One scene with the talk between them earlier this season could have lead to this. But they botched it.
I don’t have a problem with the ending they were given. They just really, really didn’t get there in a way that made sense. Which is a shame for this great story.
bostonfred
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There are some really great parallels all the way back to the beginning of the show.
Cersei and jamie throw mean from the tower to keep their family's claim to the throne.
Bran survives and takes the throne. Cersei and jamie die when a tower falls on them.
When jamie lannister killed the mad king, ned stark could have climbed the steps and taken the throne for himself.
The mad queen died just steps away from the throne. Brandon stark ascends without asking for it.
Cersei and jamie throw mean from the tower to keep their family's claim to the throne.
Bran survives and takes the throne. Cersei and jamie die when a tower falls on them.
When jamie lannister killed the mad king, ned stark could have climbed the steps and taken the throne for himself.
The mad queen died just steps away from the throne. Brandon stark ascends without asking for it.
Juxtatarot
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hagmania
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I let loose all my opinions last week. I think, for me, it may have just been the stages of grief after realizing tonight was the end of the line. This was closure and I am sitting here with a big grin on my face. 10000% satisfied.
TripItUp
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I liked it...my thoughts
1) John was rightful heir...his ending seems off
2) Where did all of those troops come from?
3) Dany isn't going to make herself susceptible to an assassination
4) Sansa kinda sucks...there is nothing redeeming about her appointment as Queen of the North
5) Arya's ending was perfect
6) I liked the ending of the Tyrion at the table with the Kings whatever....
7) Brianne gets a bit too much run...she's a knight...go do knight things.
8 - they pulled off the Bran as King better than I thought they could...still feels like it should Jon
1) John was rightful heir...his ending seems off
2) Where did all of those troops come from?
3) Dany isn't going to make herself susceptible to an assassination
4) Sansa kinda sucks...there is nothing redeeming about her appointment as Queen of the North
5) Arya's ending was perfect
6) I liked the ending of the Tyrion at the table with the Kings whatever....
7) Brianne gets a bit too much run...she's a knight...go do knight things.
8 - they pulled off the Bran as King better than I thought they could...still feels like it should Jon
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fruity pebbles
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No way they don’t kill John on the spot after learning he killed Dany
bostonfred
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Jon going back to the true north was nice. Tormund and ygritte knew that is where he belonged. And he could never be king after murdering her for murdering people. It was a good ending for him.
But it's a bit troubling in another sense. Why all the r plus l equals j stuff if it only served to create tension between him and dany in the end?
Also Jon was stabbed to death by people who believed they were doing what was right for the nights watch
Jon stabbed dany to death because he believed he was doing what was right...
But it's a bit troubling in another sense. Why all the r plus l equals j stuff if it only served to create tension between him and dany in the end?
Also Jon was stabbed to death by people who believed they were doing what was right for the nights watch
Jon stabbed dany to death because he believed he was doing what was right...
bostonfred
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Brienne made sense as queen's guard. Not kings. She swore to cat that she would protect the girls.
Ghost Rider
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Given all the #### Sansa went through, her getting that ending felt really good.
I am disappointed with how they ended Daenerys' story. I was fine with the turn last week, but acting all lovey dovey with Jon again and letting her guard down like that was a poorly written death scene for her. Her arc deserved a better ending.
I am disappointed with how they ended Daenerys' story. I was fine with the turn last week, but acting all lovey dovey with Jon again and letting her guard down like that was a poorly written death scene for her. Her arc deserved a better ending.
Man of Constant Sorrow
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She is the Lord Commander of the King's Guard now. (Holy Grail)
She carries mucho weight and responsibilities now.
Juxtatarot
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If the dragon flew away with Dani’s body, how did everyone know that she died and that Jon killed her?
Mile High
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sports_fan
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I'll look for Drogon, you guys work on the other stuff. Bran is going to be a great king.
Man of Constant Sorrow
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Do you really not think that GRRM was playing with Arthur tropes with this?
If not, no problem, but I see it as a twist Arthur ending.
Yankee23Fan
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Man of Constant Sorrow
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They don't...
...which is exactly the way Arthur went into Avalon.
No one knows if she is alive or dead.
Guys/gals - sorry if I seem a pointed nail tonight, but after this finale, I can keep the tropes from flowing.
Jayded
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I get it, but two twists I’d have rather seen:
1. Bye bye Iron Throne - the dragon torching it was the perfect opportunity to say, “the hell with it, the seven kingdoms become an alliance of seven with no one ruler.”
2. The Night Queen - When Drogon carried off Dany, it’d have been an interesting final twist to end the series with her rebirth as the Night Queen. Jon Snow up north to still protect men from her and Bran seeing it all.
1. Bye bye Iron Throne - the dragon torching it was the perfect opportunity to say, “the hell with it, the seven kingdoms become an alliance of seven with no one ruler.”
2. The Night Queen - When Drogon carried off Dany, it’d have been an interesting final twist to end the series with her rebirth as the Night Queen. Jon Snow up north to still protect men from her and Bran seeing it all.
OrtonToOlsen
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It was probably the best ending one could hope for considering how uneven this last season was.
I have no complaints about where each character ended up.
I have no complaints about where each character ended up.
hagmania
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fruity pebbles
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Why didn’t Drogon kill John. Cause he’s Targaryen?
hagmania
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Boy, the maesters are gonna be in for a shock when Arya comes back round the other side.
Yankee23Fan
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Man of Constant Sorrow
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Into the West --- again, all unknown.
Just like the true North - above the wall.
These stories need to end with uncertainty, imo.
Thunderlips
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Couple of issues:
Not a huge fan of the North becoming independent. Kind of feels a little counterproductive. With The Iron Islands still pissed over Dany being killed and Dorne being Dorne....can't imagine it will be much of Seven Kingdoms in a few years after the King decided to let only his ancestral lands leave.
If Grey Worm is leaving...why should they give a #### about his say in what happens to Jon. Actually think they dropped the ball a little in this regard and it would have been a bit more powerful if a free Jon, turns down his rightfull claim AGAIN.... and decides to go to the True North....instead of being forced to.
Felt both a combination of being rushed and boring with them hitting all the marks they needed to with the individual characters. Last episodes of the season for HBO are usually that though.
That being said, I'm satisfied (maybe not with Sansa/North as they could have just made her Warden of the North....and that might have been a good moment if Bran told her "No" the North can't leave"). I'm sure the books (if ever done) will fill in all of the gaps that people will complain about.
Not a huge fan of the North becoming independent. Kind of feels a little counterproductive. With The Iron Islands still pissed over Dany being killed and Dorne being Dorne....can't imagine it will be much of Seven Kingdoms in a few years after the King decided to let only his ancestral lands leave.
If Grey Worm is leaving...why should they give a #### about his say in what happens to Jon. Actually think they dropped the ball a little in this regard and it would have been a bit more powerful if a free Jon, turns down his rightfull claim AGAIN.... and decides to go to the True North....instead of being forced to.
Felt both a combination of being rushed and boring with them hitting all the marks they needed to with the individual characters. Last episodes of the season for HBO are usually that though.
That being said, I'm satisfied (maybe not with Sansa/North as they could have just made her Warden of the North....and that might have been a good moment if Bran told her "No" the North can't leave"). I'm sure the books (if ever done) will fill in all of the gaps that people will complain about.
glvsav37
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My only complaint, last week and tonight, no one, not a single soldier is guarding the queen?
Arya and Hound were able to walk right into the castle. And tonight there were more guards watching the prisoner then guarding the throne room leaving the new queen completely alone.
/rant
Arya and Hound were able to walk right into the castle. And tonight there were more guards watching the prisoner then guarding the throne room leaving the new queen completely alone.
/rant
She talked about going West of Westeros when she was with the actress in Bravos. It's the only ending that made any sense for her.
TripItUp
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