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do you really think he could have grabbed that cutting knife and killed Mance before the 4 or 5 dudes standing right next to them would have reacted. And did Jon Snow prepare to have dinner cooked beside him as he sat at the table with Mance? You guys are silly, the plan was dopey. but i do understand, like Snow said to Sam, nobody has a better plan. But still, i think i would have tried something else, like at least seal the tunnelChristo said:
They are trained soldiers, with armor, superior weapons, superior tactics, on horses and had surprise on their side. Plus, there wasn't 100,000 soldiers with Mance in that camp.
If? He's dead. Now I'm sure there will be more people brought back to life as that's been a reoccurring motif, but I really doubt Tywin gets resurrected.
good question. it will be weird if the king is not betrothed to somebody, but cersei wants nothing to do with Margery.
Sure they're pansies. They wanted to get to the other side of he wall to escape the White Walkers. Waving one more white flag is no big deal.
100,000, but that included women and kids I think.
Yeah, I too thought that was really well acted and enjoyed it UNTIL I reflected a bit more that it didn't really make much sense. Here's why?
Tyrion was acting out of character from the moment he saw Shae. Him being in shock and not talking to Varys is perfectly plausible in that situation.
I dont think that tyrion told him.
Good question actually. If he was in the clear on the escape, what changed? Other than maybe Tywin was telling the truth when he said he was never going to have his son executed. Maybe Tywin was in cahoots with Jaime and Varys but Cersei wasn't. With Tywin dead, Cersei would have looked at Varys.
Don't think Tywin was in on the escape. He specifically asked Tyrion who helped break him out. I think the main reason Varys got on the boat was the turmoil he now anticipated. He could predict what would happen with Tyrion escaping but now that Tywin was murdered as well all bets were off and things were impossible to predict.Good question actually. If he was in the clear on the escape, what changed? Other than maybe Tywin was telling the truth when he said he was never going to have his son executed. Maybe Tywin was in cahoots with Jaime and Varys but Cersei wasn't. With Tywin dead, Cersei would have looked at Varys.
I think perhaps he either figured that Cersei would look for someone's head. There aren't many people in KL with the capacity to spring Tyrion and it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that Varys knew that Jaime was back in Cersei's good graces and wouldn't look to him. Cersei needs to chop a head. The most likely head would be Varys'.Good question actually. If he was in the clear on the escape, what changed? Other than maybe Tywin was telling the truth when he said he was never going to have his son executed. Maybe Tywin was in cahoots with Jaime and Varys but Cersei wasn't. With Tywin dead, Cersei would have looked at Varys.
At the same time, Cersei met up with Margery in the Throne Room a few episodes back (remember when she kept seeing Tommen checking out Margery) and told Margery that she put her faith in a Margery/Tommen marriage. Whether the death of her ather and her reconciliation with Jaime would change that position or not, I don't know.
Yup. With Tywin alive the blame would likely fall on Jamie. However with Tywin out of the way Cersei would be willfully blind to Jamie's involvement and the blame would fall on Varys.I think perhaps he either figured that Cersei would look for someone's head. There aren't many people in KL with the capacity to spring Tyrion and it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that Varys knew that Jaime was back in Cersei's good graces and wouldn't look to him. Cersei needs to chop a head. The most likely head would be Varys'.Good question actually. If he was in the clear on the escape, what changed? Other than maybe Tywin was telling the truth when he said he was never going to have his son executed. Maybe Tywin was in cahoots with Jaime and Varys but Cersei wasn't. With Tywin dead, Cersei would have looked at Varys.
Makes sense.Yup. With Tywin alive the blame would likely fall on Jamie. However with Tywin out of the way Cersei would be willfully blind to Jamie's involvement and the blame would fall on Varys.I think perhaps he either figured that Cersei would look for someone's head. There aren't many people in KL with the capacity to spring Tyrion and it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that Varys knew that Jaime was back in Cersei's good graces and wouldn't look to him. Cersei needs to chop a head. The most likely head would be Varys'.Good question actually. If he was in the clear on the escape, what changed? Other than maybe Tywin was telling the truth when he said he was never going to have his son executed. Maybe Tywin was in cahoots with Jaime and Varys but Cersei wasn't. With Tywin dead, Cersei would have looked at Varys.
He had a bolt pointed at him, of course he's not gonna say Tyrion was a goner. What he said earlier to Cersai was all we needed to know.
Well, actually whomever marries Daenerys Targaryen is the rightful king. Robert Baratheon usurped the Throne, but the true, rightful heir is Daenerys.
He knew when he heard the bells that Tywin had been found, and that there was no way he could get back into King's Landing without looking guilty. Resigned to his new fate, he turned around and got on the boat. Brilliantly acted.
but the targaeryns stole the throne by conquering westeros with dragons
probably right, in the aftermath they would probably have an impromptu small counsel meeting, and look, somebody is not at the castle....
I'm not sure I agree with that. Why did he enter the room without a weapon? If I recall, he got the crossbow after killing Shae and was completely beside himself. I think that was the moment he decided to kill his dad.
