The Z Machine 5,306 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 They absolutely nailed it. NASA is doing a bang up job lately IMO. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,453 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, The Z Machine said: They absolutely nailed it. NASA is doing a bang up job lately IMO. They have to be being pushed by Space X, right? Now we just need to get Blue Origin up to snuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TripItUp 4,153 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) when do we get to see pictures and drone videos and stuff? Edited February 18 by TripItUp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 6 minutes ago, TripItUp said: when do we get to see pictures and drone videos and stuff? They got pictures literally within a minute or two of that thing sticking the landing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,453 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 17 minutes ago, El Floppo said: They got pictures literally within a minute or two of that thing sticking the landing. We broke the speed of light!?!* 😉 *Mars is three light minutes away, so at least that. or it was faked :tinfoilhat: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, The Gator said: We broke the speed of light!?!* 😉 *Mars is three light minutes away, so at least that. or it was faked Brains, meet Brad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 21 minutes ago, El Floppo said: 28 minutes ago, TripItUp said: when do we get to see pictures and drone videos and stuff? They got pictures literally within a minute or two of that thing sticking the landing. Can't spend time to look now, but I bet those pics are up somewhere...sorry I didn't link them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sand 6,098 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, The Gator said: They have to be being pushed by Space X, right? No, not a thing. This is a very different technology than a rocket. Kudos to NASA and APL. Nailed it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,453 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 10 minutes ago, Sand said: No, not a thing. This is a very different technology than a rocket. Kudos to NASA and APL. Nailed it! Not the tech of rocket vs lander, just the advancement of the overall tech and pushing limits. Listening to Jim Green today and him breaking down how they had to decide how to land a much larger rover made me think of SpaceX. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, El Floppo said: 3 hours ago, El Floppo said: 3 hours ago, TripItUp said: when do we get to see pictures and drone videos and stuff? They got pictures literally within a minute or two of that thing sticking the landing. Expand Can't spend time to look now, but I bet those pics are up somewhere...sorry I didn't link them. Link 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joffer 12,477 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, The Gator said: *Mars is three light minutes away, so at least that. About 11 mins right now actually 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,453 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 8 minutes ago, El Floppo said: Link That thread has some pretty funny edits, too lol Edited February 19 by The Gator 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sand 6,098 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 21 minutes ago, The Gator said: Not the tech of rocket vs lander, just the advancement of the overall tech and pushing limits. Listening to Jim Green today and him breaking down how they had to decide how to land a much larger rover made me think of SpaceX. It's the other way around. In general, SpaceX leveraged NASA technology much more than the other way around. The heatshield technology is all NASA. The retro rocket landing is likely inspired by SpeceX, though. They've done good work there. Mars is a tough place to land. Enough atmosphere to heat the crap out of stuff, but not enough to slow things down. Right now we can't slow down enough to land at higher altitudes with most payloads. I'm hoping one day to see them use HIAD technology when we start landing really big stuff. I worked on that a few years back - really cool stuff. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,453 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 7 minutes ago, Sand said: It's the other way around. In general, SpaceX leveraged NASA technology much more than the other way around. The heatshield technology is all NASA. The retro rocket landing is likely inspired by SpeceX, though. They've done good work there. Mars is a tough place to land. Enough atmosphere to heat the crap out of stuff, but not enough to slow things down. Right now we can't slow down enough to land at higher altitudes with most payloads. I'm hoping one day to see them use HIAD technology when we start landing really big stuff. I worked on that a few years back - really cool stuff. That’s pretty cool, thanks for link. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TripItUp 4,153 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 34 minutes ago, El Floppo said: Link This Twitter follow is dope...thanks for posting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 26 minutes ago, The Gator said: That thread has some pretty funny edits, too lol It's cold up there on mars. Mittens required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FBG26 754 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 9 hours ago, El Floppo said: It's cold up there on mars. Mittens required. You're telling me you had two pair of gloves this whole time? Uh yeah, it's the [[Rockies]] Mars! PS, [s]strike through[/s] didn't work any more? Edited February 19 by FBG26 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prosopis 1,554 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 10 hours ago, The Gator said: Not the tech of rocket vs lander, just the advancement of the overall tech and pushing limits. Listening to Jim Green today and him breaking down how they had to decide how to land a much larger rover made me think of SpaceX. where are you listening to Jim Green? podcast? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,453 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, prosopis said: where are you listening to Jim Green? podcast? StarTalk Radio podcast. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeroy Jenkins 3,041 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 15 hours ago, El Floppo said: They got pictures literally within a minute or two of that thing sticking the landing. Those were photos from the engineering cameras -- used for navigation. Hi-Res pics from the "real" cameras will come after diagnostic tests and other stuff apparently. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 34,136 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Perseverance being lowered from the skycrane (hover rocket lander thingy) onto the surface of Mars. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 34,136 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 And here's the first color image from Perseverance of the surface (its a "hazard cam," designed to look for stuff to drive around. The really pretty pictures will come later). 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said: Perseverance being lowered from the skycrane (hover rocket lander thingy) onto the surface of Mars. They'll supposedly be releasing video of the landing soon. That pic is absolutely amazing! Does anybody know where the sky crane flew off to after dropping the rover? Did it just bounce somewhere and crash-land to not hit or get in the rovers way...or is it safely landed somewhere for reuse? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/19/2021 at 1:30 PM, El Floppo said: They'll supposedly be releasing video of the landing soon. Today at 2pm on nasa tv. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Z Machine 5,306 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/19/2021 at 1:30 PM, El Floppo said: They'll supposedly be releasing video of the landing soon. That pic is absolutely amazing! Does anybody know where the sky crane flew off to after dropping the rover? Did it just bounce somewhere and crash-land to not hit or get in the rovers way...or is it safely landed somewhere for reuse? It flew away toward the north to crash not anywhere near the rover. It was always design to fly north regardless of terrain after the cables detached. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, The Z Machine said: It flew away toward the north to crash not anywhere near the rover. It was always design to fly north regardless of terrain after the cables detached. Thanks! Was just reading up on it too...turns out my old neighbor and school mate Adam Steltzner was in charge of all of that. It makes perfect sense, but I still hoped it was designed to fly off and land somewhere, to be salvaged or used as a relay or antenna booster or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joffer 12,477 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 i didn't realize Perseverance had a RTG in it for power. Plutonium 238. cool. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beer 30 3,447 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, joffer said: i didn't realize Perseverance had a RTG in it for power. Plutonium 238. cool. Don't kid yourself, that's to blow up the aliens when they realize the jig is up. Why do you have a gun in space? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxco 355 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, El Floppo said: Today at 2pm on nasa tv. This is going to be awesome. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
heckmanm 4,433 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, El Floppo said: Thanks! Was just reading up on it too...turns out my old neighbor and school mate Adam Steltzner was in charge of all of that. It makes perfect sense, but I still hoped it was designed to fly off and land somewhere, to be salvaged or used as a relay or antenna booster or something. As long as Mark Watney can find it when he needs it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Z Machine 5,306 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, joffer said: i didn't realize Perseverance had a RTG in it for power. Plutonium 238. cool. I think that's because of the issues that Opportunity had with solar panel charging and the dust storm that finally killed it. Those rovers had some nuke thermal power as well, but not enough to run the whole thing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Hfs. Just breathtaking...literally. Hi res videos were unbelievable. And audio...more about the history making than the actual audio...but equally breathtaking. Can't wait to see and hear more from the surface of mars...and hoping they'll be able to link video with audio. I think they said everything is up on their website...astonishing. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,453 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) Just saw the landing footage. man that's awesome https://twitter.com/NASAPersevere/status/1363929492138254340?s=20 Edited February 22 by The Gator 3 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 28 minutes ago, The Gator said: Just saw the landing footage. man that's awesome https://twitter.com/NASAPersevere/status/1363929492138254340?s=20 Thanks! Incredible stuff. I loved seeing the rover drop and then seeing the skycrane take off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TripItUp 4,153 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 31 minutes ago, The Gator said: Just saw the landing footage. man that's awesome https://twitter.com/NASAPersevere/status/1363929492138254340?s=20 dope Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Z Machine 5,306 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, The Gator said: Just saw the landing footage. man that's awesome https://twitter.com/NASAPersevere/status/1363929492138254340?s=20 Freakin' rad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,453 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Someone mashed up real and cgi video of the landing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 New panorama 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,977 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 And the internet decoded the parachute.... "Dare Mighty Things", plus the coordinates of JPL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Z Machine 5,306 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 28 minutes ago, El Floppo said: New panorama Link don't work. Extra nasa at the start, but I figured it out. Pretty amazing to look at. I keep thinking... where are the trees and bushes? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desert_Power 1,029 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/22/2021 at 3:19 PM, The Gator said: Just saw the landing footage. man that's awesome https://twitter.com/NASAPersevere/status/1363929492138254340?s=20 This is really cool. It's going to make me listen to the 13 Minutes to the Moon again. Check out that podcast if you haven't before. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Elliott 1,139 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Sorry if a honda...watched a great episode of NOVA last night explaining the development of Perseverance and some of the critical issues they addressed such as how do you fly a drone in atmosphere that is 1/100th of earth, developing ability to create oxygen for future mission as the fuel to blast off to return to earth, developing ability to determine where to land, how to process/store the core samples and the main objective of looking for signs of "life". 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroncoFreak_2K3 2,616 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Cue up Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Z Machine 5,306 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/25/2021 at 9:56 AM, Phil Elliott said: Sorry if a honda...watched a great episode of NOVA last night explaining the development of Perseverance and some of the critical issues they addressed such as how do you fly a drone in atmosphere that is 1/100th of earth, developing ability to create oxygen for future mission as the fuel to blast off to return to earth, developing ability to determine where to land, how to process/store the core samples and the main objective of looking for signs of "life". What i can't figure out is why they don't build and send 3 or 10 at a time. Economies of scale here, people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 34,136 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Mars Panorama 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ned 10,620 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said: Mars Panorama I see Matt in the background. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Vermeil 3,532 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Starship SN10 test launch right now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 34,136 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, Nick Vermeil said: Starship SN10 test launch right now! Thats a big rocket Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Vermeil 3,532 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Whomp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 34,136 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 er. nevermind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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