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I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
The police aren't pulling the triggers. Make that argument when arrests plummet like they did in NY a couple of months ago. Maybe they are, I haven't checked.I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:
Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.
Let's be clear what you're saying here. Do you believe the 6 officers who were arrested for the death of Gray deserve the support of the mayor, the DA, and the community?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:26 PM, said:Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.timschochet, on 19 May 2015 - 6:20 PM, said:I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.
Where do you live again? And how much time have you spent in Baltimore? Or is this just a tv/message board exercise for you? Because youre really dumb and stuff and should probably give the i know things on the internet routine a rest.Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.
No ####. Screw that. The mayor, the DA, and the community threw the whole department under the bus for the mistakes of a few. It's not worth it. Do what you have to and go home safe.Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:
Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
I'm not sure about those 6 cops because I don't know exactly what happened to Gray. I'm talking about rest of the cops that now have to go to work in one of the most dangerous cities in the country and aren't sure they will have the benefit of the doubt when some low life claims excessive force.Let's be clear what you're saying here. Do you believe the 6 officers who were arrested for the death of Gray deserve the support of the mayor, the DA, and the community?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:26 PM, said:Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.timschochet, on 19 May 2015 - 6:20 PM, said:I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.
Yeah, it's real controversial calling Baltimore a dump. Bad schools, high unemployment and violence. But I will admit I don't the place as well as someone who scores their hard drugs there.Where do you live again? And how much time have you spent in Baltimore? Or is this just a tv/message board exercise for you? Because youre really dumb and stuff and should probably give the i know things on the internet routine a rest.Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.
Since 2006, 67 people have died in encounters with the Baltimore Police. 2 cops were indicted in all of those incidents.I'm not sure about those 6 cops because I don't know exactly what happened to Gray. I'm talking about rest of the cops that now have to go to work in one of the most dangerous cities in the country and aren't sure they will have the benefit of the doubt when some low life claims excessive force.Let's be clear what you're saying here. Do you believe the 6 officers who were arrested for the death of Gray deserve the support of the mayor, the DA, and the community?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:26 PM, said:
Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.timschochet, on 19 May 2015 - 6:20 PM, said:
I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:
Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
Baltimore is bigger than Toledo gomer. The area in question is pretty small. And haven't scored drugs there in 15 years, but keep up the good work.Yeah, it's real controversial calling Baltimore a dump. Bad schools, high unemployment and violence. But I will admit I don't the place as well as someone who scores their hard drugs there.Where do you live again? And how much time have you spent in Baltimore? Or is this just a tv/message board exercise for you? Because youre really dumb and stuff and should probably give the i know things on the internet routine a rest.Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.
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The fact isn't the issue. It's the crass disregard of history, context, humanity, and I don't know, a brain, that got my attention.Dr Oadi said:
I'd say recent events may have given the officers reason to doubt.Since 2006, 67 people have died in encounters with the Baltimore Police. 2 cops were indicted in all of those incidents.I'm not sure about those 6 cops because I don't know exactly what happened to Gray. I'm talking about rest of the cops that now have to go to work in one of the most dangerous cities in the country and aren't sure they will have the benefit of the doubt when some low life claims excessive force.Let's be clear what you're saying here. Do you believe the 6 officers who were arrested for the death of Gray deserve the support of the mayor, the DA, and the community?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:26 PM, said:
Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.timschochet, on 19 May 2015 - 6:20 PM, said:
I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:
Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
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Toledo? Did you mean to quote me because your post doesn't really seem related anything I've said.Baltimore is bigger than Toledo gomer. The area in question is pretty small. And haven't scored drugs there in 15 years, but keep up the good work.Yeah, it's real controversial calling Baltimore a dump. Bad schools, high unemployment and violence. But I will admit I don't the place as well as someone who scores their hard drugs there.Where do you live again? And how much time have you spent in Baltimore? Or is this just a tv/message board exercise for you? Because youre really dumb and stuff and should probably give the i know things on the internet routine a rest.Why would anyone want to be a policeman in a cesspool like Baltimore? You don't have the support of the mayor, the DA or the community. You are supposed to risk your life for that? No thanks.I didn't before (not for gang deaths) but now I'm starting to wonder. Ever since the indictment, police have been threatening that they're not going to be as vigilant. Could they be letting things go here, in order to demonstrate what happens if the rules come down too hard on them?Hang 10, on 19 May 2015 - 6:00 PM, said:Yeah, lets continue to blame the police.
I hope that's not the case. But if it is the mayor should come down hard and fire some of them. If the current police aren't willing to do their jobs, then find somebody who will.
I ain't said one racist thing so #### accuser.
I have no problem with indicting cops who commit crimes but the honest officers need even more support in a climate like this, not less. Seems like a hard job just became impossible.
First off, I disrespectfully decline your offer.Olaf, on 19 May 2015 - 7:44 PM, said:
That's the problem with discussions that touch on race. There are always people who either mentally or emotionally cant deal with verifiable facts so they name call or scream "Racist" as a means of coping. You pretend to be an intellectual, but name calling as a means of turning attention away from a verifiable fact in not very intellectual.timschochet, on 19 May 2015 - 7:00 PM, saidr. Oadi and Olaf: you don't need to compete with each other as to who can make more racist comments. There's enough hoods for both of you.
I'll tell you what, I'll pose the same challenge to you that I did Apple Jack, but we'll put stakes on it. If you can find me a city with a black population of 65% or greater that has a low crime rate, I'll leave this board forever. But if you can't, then you have to leave this board forever. I'll give you until midnight tomorrow, and we'll let the good people of this thread decide what constitutes a low crime rate for this exercise.
“Black crime is the elephant in the room” he said, encouraging lawmakers to look instead at “transforming black underclass subculture behavior."
I admire your bravery. Good luck with it. You'll definitely need it in here.If blacks are going to continue being insistent on segregating statistics and issues to fit their political agenda, then in fairness they shouldn't have any problems when statistics like these are presented along racial lines. When everything is seen in black and white, you can't selectively pull the race card when some of the stats don't look all that flattering. Personally I wish we'd all stop looking at the world through the racial lens, but I've resigned myself to the unfortunate reality that this isn't going to change anytime soon. So we'll all have to engage in some very uncomfortable discussions in the coming years on many different issues.
Sad General Tso. There is nothing to admire about Olaf's comments.General Tso, on 19 May 2015 - 8:15 PM, said:I admire your bravery, and honesty. Good luck with it. You'll definitely need it in here.But if blacks are going to continue being insistent on segregating statistics and issues to fit their political agenda, then in fairness they shouldn't have any problems when statistics like these are presented along racial lines. When everything is seen in black and white, you can't selectively pull the race card when some of the stats don't look all that flattering.Olaf, on 19 May 2015 - 7:44 PM, said:That's the problem with discussions that touch on race. There are always people who either mentally or emotionally cant deal with verifiable facts so they name call or scream "Racist" as a means of coping. You pretend to be an intellectual, but name calling as a means of turning attention away from a verifiable fact in not very intellectual.timschochet, on 19 May 2015 - 7:00 PM, said
I'll tell you what, I'll pose the same challenge to you that I did Apple Jack, but we'll put stakes on it. If you can find me a city with a black population of 65% or greater that has a low crime rate, I'll leave this board forever. But if you can't, then you have to leave this board forever. I'll give you until midnight tomorrow, and we'll let the good people of this thread decide what constitutes a low crime rate for this exercise.
“Black crime is the elephant in the room” he said, encouraging lawmakers to look instead at “transforming black underclass subculture behavior."
I have to admit, I don't know Olaf from a hole in the wall. I realize it's dangerous area trudging into such discussions about racism these days, and all I meant to convey was that I for one appreciate a dialogue that begins with openness and honesty, and even a little bit of bravery. I think most people in here are really well intentioned, and I also believe in the power of communication.By the way Tim - you need to weed out your email box. It's full and not accepting new pm's.
The entire nation of Burkina Faso, which I assume we can all agree is more than 65% black, has exceptionally low crime rates. Pick a city. And then leave forever.
If I shot a customer in the back because he pissed me off, I wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt either, but you don't see me refusing to work until I get some assurances that I can get away with murder. Maybe these losers should just take some personal responsibility and try to stay within the confines of the law.
I meant this one:
You said crime rate, by the way, not murder rate, although more up to date information about homicides puts the nation closer to the middle for that particular statistic And even your post says that the capital city is "safe and non-threatening during daylight hours" only to become "less safe at night," which is true of virtually every place.
Just like I called it weeks ago - Miss Mosby screwed up on the knife and the Grand Jury has dropped the false imprisonment charge. I love how she cites emerging evidence. What a crock of ####. Nothing new emerged, she just rushed her initial charges. She didn't take enough time to read the arrest report and the Baltimore criminal code. Now she's contaminated the potential jury pool with a bull#### narrative of false arrest which will certainly hurt her case in some fashion. But at least she got front row seats to the Prince concert.
What a sad sad state of affairs in that city.
28 shootings in a weekend may sound like a lot but in defense of the good people of Baltimore, there was an extra day.
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I think the people that live there are doing a pretty good job of that on their own.
No, we'Ve reached the part of the thread where we use facts to dispel the notion that there is no uptick in Baltimore violence and that any surge in violence is a media fabrication.
What does the surge in murders do to price of smack in B-town, AJ? Asking for a friend.
