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15 minutes ago, Sol D said:

Which side do you like?  1 point PPR, FFPC dynasty league. 

Stefon Diggs

for

2021 01.07 & 2021 01.10 picks

I am rebuilding would get Diggs. I have 4 first round picks, those two plus 01.02 and 01.04. 

We'll just pretend you already made the trade. I like it for you.

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2 minutes ago, Sol D said:

FFPC 1 QB Dynasty league is A Rodgers  worth a 2021 02.10 and 2022 2nd?

If not more or less?

Thanks for your feedback

For your first question above, you're really looking for the Assistant Coach Forum. For this one you're looking for the Dynasty Value thread here in the Pool.

Since you already have Watson and Murray, I'd take the two dart throws for Rodgers (I'm just not a proponent of hoarding QBs). Unless you could trade one of the others for a first.

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28 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

For your first question above, you're really looking for the Assistant Coach Forum. For this one you're looking for the Dynasty Value thread here in the Pool.

Since you already have Watson and Murray, I'd take the two dart throws for Rodgers (I'm just not a proponent of hoarding QBs). Unless you could trade one of the others for a first.

Thanks I posted over there a few days ago and go no feedback. The subject of this thread said Dynasty trades so thought it was for that.  Thanks for the feedback. 

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1 hour ago, Sol D said:

Which side do you like?  1 point PPR, FFPC dynasty league. 

Stefon Diggs

for

2021 01.07 & 2021 01.10 picks

I am rebuilding would get Diggs. I have 4 first round picks, those two plus 01.02 and 01.04. 

my current WR are:

C. Sutton

C. Claypool

C. Samuel

M. Pittman

B. Edwards

Q. Cephus 

others I am keeping:

QB A. Rogers

QB K. Murray

QB D. Watson

RB M. Sanders

RB Z. Moss 

RB T. Pollard

RB L. Bowden

TE D. Goedert 

K and D

We keep 16 before rookie draft. 

You value this roster as rebuilding?! It looks more like a team coming off from a championship.

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14 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC not involved

Team A gave James Robinson, 2022 1st (looks late to me)

Team B gave 1.01

Seen to many RB's value get trashed during the draft or earlier in FA process so as a general rule I think it's bad business to buy a veteran RB before those things happen especially when giving up an asset that is flexible and fairly bulletproof from dropping.

And the 2022 first was to much to throw in even if Jags draft or sign no valid competition.

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1 hour ago, Born to Run said:

You value this roster as rebuilding?! It looks more like a team coming off from a championship.

It finished in 11th place in 12 team league. Besides QB, not much consistency and lots of injuries.  But I do hope to turn it around quickly and think Diggs would help. 

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4 hours ago, foxco said:

What pick would he be worth to you?

I’m not necessarily a believer. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Jags either sign a free agent or draft a back early that cuts heavily into Robinson’s workload - and to me volume had much to do with his success.

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15 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

I think I like James Robinson basically equal to the 1.01 or close, but I know I am probably in the minority (as usual). I can't see paying that price to get 1.01, but I might a few months from now. So maybe it does make sense given how much more it will be worth as we move on. Could easily flip for another deal better than Robinson plus a late 1st. So...?

 

15 hours ago, rockaction said:

I see. So Robinson would be 1.01? Perhaps I really undervalued Robinson. I'm beginning to regret moving him for what I did. Smart money says he's the starter. I still think Meyer is going to want his guy for some reason. Then he's an asset that just lost a whole lot of value. Enough about me. Calcs have this all even, as do I. My personal thought: I think getting Chase or whoever you believe in (I'm not thinking that the guy is picking Harris or Etienne for two reasons. Age, and they haven't proven they're three down backs yet. Why would you move a younger, three-down Robinson for one of those guys?) is good value for the pick and Robinson. 

No, not 1.01 but in that neighborhood. I am probably being too liberal with the use of the phrase "basically equal" when really "or close" is more like it. But even within that world what I consider to be close and what other people consider to be close are often two different things. Even if we were to agree on Robinson. I like Robinson better than any of the RBs in this crop today, but that is subject to change. But I do think it is likely there are two or three WRs that will be preferable. This is one where I don't think I would give up the 1.01 if this offer came into my box but I wouldn't spend James Robinson and a 1st to get there either. 

As for Robinson specifically, he is only going to be better with Lawrence at QB. Might be right about the new coach wanting his guy but I don't think they're going to go that route. Not yet anyway. Also, James Robinson looked really, really good to me.

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Where do you value Dak in a start 1 QB league.  What players would you trade him for?  What future draft picks is he worth?

 

I was just approached asking what it would take to sell him and I didn't really think about it, but he is expendable so just wanting to get some opinions.

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15 minutes ago, smbkrypt24 said:

Where do you value Dak in a start 1 QB league.  What players would you trade him for?  What future draft picks is he worth?

 

I was just approached asking what it would take to sell him and I didn't really think about it, but he is expendable so just wanting to get some opinions.

Mid 1st?

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15 minutes ago, smbkrypt24 said:

Where do you value Dak in a start 1 QB league.  What players would you trade him for?  What future draft picks is he worth?

I was just approached asking what it would take to sell him and I didn't really think about it, but he is expendable so just wanting to get some opinions.

I've always been told that most start 1 QBs aren't worth a 1st.

I offered a 2022 1st and Tonyan to a guy who won't start Prescott but for a bye week...rejected with no counter.

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11 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

EH, I can see the Robinson side. rookies are always a crapshoot. At least Robinson has proven something

True, but you’re literally getting the best of the bunch. They can certainly bust too, but I would say it’s not very likely. I like James Robinson. Had him on a team last year that lost Saquon Barkley and he was a huge reason I even made the playoffs. But I do still have some doubts. Perhaps I put too much emphasis on draft capital, but I’m always apprehensive about late round or undrafted guys. I would be surprised if Jrob isn’t still the lead back in Jacksonville. I would not be surprised if they draft or bring in a somewhat high profile FA and they pilfer more carries from Jrob than his owners would like. 

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35 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

EH, I can see the Robinson side. rookies are always a crapshoot. At least Robinson has proven something

Thing is there's very few UDFA RB's with nice rookie years that end up having continued success. I read an article a few months back about this topic and other than Arien Foster I can't think of anyone else. Sure Lindsey and a few others have had moderate success but not rookie 1.01 type value.

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4 minutes ago, Penguin said:

Thing is there's very few UDFA RB's with nice rookie years that end up having continued success. I read an article a few months back about this topic and other than Arien Foster I can't think of anyone else. Sure Lindsey and a few others have had moderate success but not rookie 1.01 type value.

What would Robinson be worth in your opinion as far as rookie picks in dynasty leagues go?

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1 hour ago, Helaire-ious said:

What would Robinson be worth in your opinion as far as rookie picks in dynasty leagues go?

Full disclosure: I am lower on Robinson than the consensus. Being a UFDA and playing a position that generally doesn't have a long shelf life I'd probably have him around 1.08ish as I like Harris, Etienne, Chase, Pitts, Moore, Smith, Waddle and possibly Bateman and Javonte Williams over him

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3 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

12 team, .5 PPR, 1 QB

Gave

Josh Jacobs, Davantae Booker, and 6.1

for

CeeDee Lamb, 2022 1st, and 4.4

It's pretty close between Lamb and Jacobs for me, so the 1st side pretty easily.

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Same league with 12 teams, .5 PPR, and 1 QB....yesterday was the 1st day trades could be made official...IMO there were terrible trades below:

Team A gets - 1.5

Team B gets - 1.11 & 2.11

 

Team A gets - 2023 1st

Team C gets - 3.4 & 4.4

 

Team A gets - 2022 2nd & 2023 2nd

Team D gets - 2022 3rd & Leonard Fournette

 

I'm not a fan of any of these deals.

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5 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

Same league with 12 teams, .5 PPR, and 1 QB....yesterday was the 1st day trades could be made official...IMO there were terrible trades below:

Team A gets - 1.5

Team B gets - 1.11 & 2.11

 

Team A gets - 2023 1st

Team C gets - 3.4 & 4.4

 

Team A gets - 2022 2nd & 2023 2nd

Team D gets - 2022 3rd & Leonard Fournette

 

I'm not a fan of any of these deals.

Every single one of these trades is lopsided.

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13 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

Same league with 12 teams, .5 PPR, and 1 QB....yesterday was the 1st day trades could be made official...IMO there were terrible trades below:

Team A gets - 1.5

Team B gets - 1.11 & 2.11

 

Team A gets - 2023 1st

Team C gets - 3.4 & 4.4

 

Team A gets - 2022 2nd & 2023 2nd

Team D gets - 2022 3rd & Leonard Fournette

 

I'm not a fan of any of these deals.

Give me the good picks in all and very easily.

The worst of the bunch is the 2023 1st for 3.4 & 4.4. I assume they haven't done their rookie draft, so it's not like a first round talent was sitting there OTC at 3.4 and the guy just had to get him. This screams of an owner who isn't planning to be there when the 2023 1st comes due and as such, this is the type of trade that leagues fold over.

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22 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

Same league with 12 teams, .5 PPR, and 1 QB....yesterday was the 1st day trades could be made official...IMO there were terrible trades below:

Team A gets - 1.5

Team B gets - 1.11 & 2.11

 

Team A gets - 2023 1st

Team C gets - 3.4 & 4.4

 

Team A gets - 2022 2nd & 2023 2nd

Team D gets - 2022 3rd & Leonard Fournette

 

I'm not a fan of any of these deals.

In all, Team A gives: 1.11, 2.11, 3.4, 4.4, 2022 3rd, Leonard Fournette

In all, Team A receives: 1.05, 2022 2nd, 2023 1st, 2023 2nd.

After a hard day's work, Team A gets two 2nds and a first for free.

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On 2/7/2021 at 4:53 PM, Andy Dufresne said:

I've always been told that most start 1 QBs aren't worth a 1st.

I offered a 2022 1st and Tonyan to a guy who won't start Prescott but for a bye week...rejected with no counter.

I get what you mean.

To a guy with Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert, I inquired about Burrow (he's a Chargers homer and I figured-correctly-he values Allen over Burrow).  Also part of this, he said he really values having 3 starting QBs.  Fair enough.

He wanted me to send Baker Mayfield, my 1.04 and 3.05 to him for Burrow.  I countered with Daniel Jones, my 1.09 and 3.05 and it basically floundered from there.

I didn't say it but at the cost he wanted, I could just take Lawrence at 1.04 and still be ahead by Mayfield and my 3.05.  Hell, in a 1 QB league, I might have been able to get Lawrence with the 1.09.

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12 team, superflex

Sent 

2.7, 3.7

Received 

2.11, 8.11, Alexander Mattison

 

He's only 22, and the Vikes are gonna have to make a decision at rb .....pony up on cook, or let Mattison walk.

 

Gives me a few guys to hope pan out at rb.....edmonds, eno, Gus Edwards, penny

Only decent backs are Hunt, and Gibson

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7 minutes ago, domvin said:

12 team, superflex

Sent 

2.7, 3.7

Received 

2.11, 8.11, Alexander Mattison

 

He's only 22, and the Vikes are gonna have to make a decision at rb .....pony up on cook, or let Mattison walk.

 

Gives me a few guys to hope pan out at rb.....edmonds, eno, Gus Edwards, penny

Only decent backs are Hunt, and Gibson

You got the right idea

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22 minutes ago, domvin said:

12 team, superflex

Sent 

2.7, 3.7

Received 

2.11, 8.11, Alexander Mattison

He's only 22, and the Vikes are gonna have to make a decision at rb .....pony up on cook, or let Mattison walk.

Gives me a few guys to hope pan out at rb.....edmonds, eno, Gus Edwards, penny

Only decent backs are Hunt, and Gibson

Vikings already paid Cook.

5 year contract extension on September 12, 2020  worth $63 million in new money with a little over $16.3 million fully guaranteed at signing including a $15,506,361 signing bonus and fully guaranteed 2020 base salary..

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1 hour ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Vikings already paid Cook.

5 year contract extension on September 12, 2020  worth $63 million in new money with a little over $16.3 million fully guaranteed at signing including a $15,506,361 signing bonus and fully guaranteed 2020 base salary..

Thanks AD.......and I missed that I guess, I knew a decision was going to have to be made, and cook is the answer

So Mattison is a ufa in 2023, age of 25.   I can live with that, and he will have fresh legs, and essentially cost me a 3rd rounder

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20 minutes ago, domvin said:

Thanks AD.......and I missed that I guess, I knew a decision was going to have to be made, and cook is the answer

So Mattison is a ufa in 2023, age of 25.   I can live with that, and he will have fresh legs, and essentially cost me a 3rd rounder

& a roster spot for 2-3 yrs.

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9 minutes ago, lardonastick said:

12 team non-ppr, QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

Gave 1.08, 2.06

Got 1.06

I also have 2.01 and 2.08, and wanted to get into top six of the draft. Probably paid to much to move up two spot mid round, but :shrug:.

Good one. I've been wondering what it would take to go from the 8 to one of the 3/4/5. I think this is about right for you.

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1 minute ago, rockaction said:

Why is the three/four/five crucial, might I ask, and who do you see there?

Because I think the top five are pretty clear in a set of Harris/Chase/Etienne/Waddle/Smith. I could maybe have my arm twisted to go to six with Williams.

Seven and eight are Lawrence and Pitts. Tipping my hand there...

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Just now, Andy Dufresne said:

Because I think the top five are pretty clear in a set of Harris/Chase/Etienne/Waddle/Smith. I could maybe have my arm twisted to go to six with Williams.

Seven and eight are Lawrence and Pitts. Tipping my hand there...

Gotcha. I've got it differently, but I'm not too radical about it. I don't have Smith there. I think 165 pounds is going to get killed in the NFL, Heisman or no Heisman. Tipping my hand also...

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30 minutes ago, lardonastick said:

12 team non-ppr, QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

 

Gave 1.08, 2.06

Got 1.06

 

I also have 2.01 and 2.08, and wanted to get into top six of the draft. Probably paid to much to move up two spot mid round, but :shrug:.

A trade like this is dependent on your draft board...if you have a top 6 it is a great move because you now guarantee you will get one of those players...overall a move like this may vary from owner to owner depending on their draft board.

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1 minute ago, Boston said:

A trade like this is dependent on your draft board...if you have a top 6 it is a great move because you now guarantee you will get one of those players...overall a move like this may vary from owner to owner depending on their draft board.

I agree with this. It's really early to be swapping picks without knowing where consensus is or where draft capital has gone. Just seems too early. If you trade up to get the 1.01-1.03 because you're sure of it, then I could see that.

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13 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Because I think the top five are pretty clear in a set of Harris/Chase/Etienne/Waddle/Smith. I could maybe have my arm twisted to go to six with Williams.

This is where I'm at. I see three RB's worth taking in the first round, and in this league they will go in the top 5-6. There is still plenty of time to move off pick 6 also. Once "consensus" forms and names start being attached to picks, I think I'll be able to trade out of that spot if I want. Would be an ideal spot for someone to move up for Lawrence or Pitts.

I guess this trade is really a chip on Williams.

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44 minutes ago, lardonastick said:

12 team non-ppr, QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

 

Gave 1.08, 2.06

Got 1.06

 

I also have 2.01 and 2.08, and wanted to get into top six of the draft. Probably paid to much to move up two spot mid round, but :shrug:.

There's very little reason to make a trade like this now. It's much more likely that the difference 1.06 and 1.08 is negligible in 2 months than there being a huge tier break after the 1.06.

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