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Ridgeback
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Just went down in my SF PPR league, not involved.
team A gives: 2022 1st (likely low, as they’re a top 3 team) + Jeudy
team B gives: Keenan Allen
Team A is clearly going for it, but to me, that’s a bit steep for a 29 year old Allen.
team A gives: 2022 1st (likely low, as they’re a top 3 team) + Jeudy
team B gives: Keenan Allen
Team A is clearly going for it, but to me, that’s a bit steep for a 29 year old Allen.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Team B all day. Barkley should be significantly better another year removed from the injury, and Cooks has proved he can put up #s with just about any QB.
Curtis Samuel can’t get healthy & will be the WR2 (and likely target #3 when Thomas is back) and Chinn is good, but not elite (depending whether he’s a LB or DB in your league - either way he’s ok, but not great)
I see this as 2 firsts 2 and 3 years out for Barkley + Cooks. Barkley should get 2x 1sts alone, IMO.
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PantherThunder
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PantherThunder
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Have to like the Barkley side. Especially with the firsts so far out. In 3 years you could probably trade him and at least get a 1st back. So you get Barkley for 3 years at the cost of 2 year in the future first.
Ridgeback
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I totally understand this perspective. I'm the one rebuilding, and have three 1st rounders next year already, is a supposedly weak class. I pushed the 1st rounders out a bit because of that, and this team that's acquiring Barkley is getting very long in the tooth. I could see a large drop off within the next couple of years so the 1st round picks should be better.
Ridgeback
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Understood. I hated giving up Cooks in this deal, but it was the only way it was getting done. I don't believe we'll ever see vintage Barkley again, but clearly, I've been wrong before.
Hot Sauce Guy
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I recall reading that most players don't come back from his surgery fully until the 2nd year back. You can see it in his game - he has very little wiggle, he's not evading anyone, his power seems tentative.
Next year he's going to be an incredible value if he falls to the 2nd or 3rd round.
Hot Sauce Guy
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What rebuilding team wouldn't want to rebuild around Monty & Dak? I don't get this deal at all for the team getting TLaw (assuming Trevor Lawrence) + 2x 1sts.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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This is exactly where I'm at on it. 2023 is fine, but make it 2x 2023 1sts, or another player back. The 2024 1st is just too far out, and way too much potential for Barkley to be the most significant piece of this deal for several years to come.
wgoldsph
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Allen's always under appreciated. It's a lose for a, but if they get the ship they won't care.
wgoldsph
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So you're saying the positive take away is that he looks bad? I still don't know why Barkley holds so much value. At the moment he's Chris Carson with an elite rookie year.
JohnnyU
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Hot Sauce Guy
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My brain read Trever Lawrence. My fingers typed JLaw. I get up at 4 and I'm old.
No. You just said that. Just now. I never said that or you could have quoted me instead of trying to project this onto me in the form of a question. lol
I said it typically takes 2 years to come back from that injury.
If any inference can be drawn, it's that this is an expected outcome. He is way more than Carson.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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That's exactly my take. Overpay for sure. Short term rental for sure. But they're going for it. I respect that.
titusbramble
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Just seen straight up Kupp to a contender for Deebo to someone rebuilding
Boston
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The issue I have is Deebo will be 26 in January so he's only 2.5 years younger than Kupp...deal would make more sense if he could get a Jefferson (22) or Lamb (22) and had a more substantial age gap with Kupp.
titusbramble
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Heh, the guy with Kupp tried to get Jefferson off me earlier in the season, can't remember what else he tried to chuck in but it wasn't enough
TartanLion
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Not sure where I got Justin Lawrence from. Obviously Trevor. I think Justin Lawrence may be an MMA fighter !JohnnyU said:
Hot Sauce Guy
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wgoldsph
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Could have gotten more for conner. Yes he did most of his work with edmonds out, but he still gets goal line carries.
rockaction
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I traded for Conner for a two last year and dumped him for another two when I thought he was shot. He’s 26 or 7. That’s about right for him.
ghostguy123
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A mid to late 2nd seems light for Conner.
You can probably get that in the offseason. So, his production down the stretch here for free? Sign me up
You can probably get that in the offseason. So, his production down the stretch here for free? Sign me up
rockaction
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27 is the new 25
northern exposure
Footballguy
With an extra week added to the regular season, shouldn't your playoffs start after the Bye Weeks are over in Wk. 15?
Travieso
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Just made a trade at deadline. smaller starting lineups - only 5 total RB + WR starters (Q/R/WW/Flex/Flex/TE/D)
Gave Tua, 2022 first (mid to late), Amari Cooper
Got Hurts, 2022 third (mid to late), Mark Andrews
should be in playoffs and was starting Tua or Hinecke at QB and Dan (goose egg) Arnold at TE
I overpaid but hard to get trades done in this league and first time in forever I am competitive in this league.
appreciate any thoughts...
Gave Tua, 2022 first (mid to late), Amari Cooper
Got Hurts, 2022 third (mid to late), Mark Andrews
should be in playoffs and was starting Tua or Hinecke at QB and Dan (goose egg) Arnold at TE
I overpaid but hard to get trades done in this league and first time in forever I am competitive in this league.
appreciate any thoughts...
ghostguy123
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I dont think you overpaid considering you have to start a TE and there are a smaller amount of RB/WR starters.
Andrews has more value than cooper and a later 1st in that setup, and Hurts over Tua obviously
Rockchild
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I wasn't going to get more for him in this league. No one was going to pay a first and the teams that have an early 2nd weren't interested. I picked him up for a 3rd in the offseason and thought I'd take the 'profit' as my team wasn't going anywhere. He's looked pretty good but he is what he is.
14 team Superflex PPR - not involved. Top 2 contender (Team A) going for it. The other team involved is very likely to get the 1.01 (based upon potential points)
Team A gets: Dak Prescott, late 2022 2nd
Team A gives: Justin Fields, his 2022 1st (late), Chase Edmonds, Tony Jones
Team A gets: Dak Prescott, late 2022 2nd
Team A gives: Justin Fields, his 2022 1st (late), Chase Edmonds, Tony Jones
PantherThunder
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I think is a fair deal but giving up a premium asset in SF with Dak who has many years left for Fields who you hope turns into a Dak, plus a late 1st dart throw and RB who is ok. I think the other team would have been better off holding on to Dak. Doesn't seem like a good enough payoff to give him up.
PantherThunder
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Conner seems like a better asset on your team then a mid/late 2nd. If the deal was Conner + 2nd for a Late 1st I think that is an easier deal to make than 2 2nd's for a late 1st.
BearsFan4Life
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14 Team - Standard Scoring
Gave: Sutton, Julio, Jeff Willson Jr
Got: Higgins
Had to clear one roster spot to make room for Hunt coming off IR. Julio was already on IR and had not one else to drop.
Gave: Sutton, Julio, Jeff Willson Jr
Got: Higgins
Had to clear one roster spot to make room for Hunt coming off IR. Julio was already on IR and had not one else to drop.
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Rockchild
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That would be a good deal to make but I'm not sure I know anyone who would do that. I agree that he has a known value that, on paper anyway, seems better than a 2nd round pick but he's an aging middling RB who has had injury issues in the past. Sure he is having a decent run right now but I'm not confident he sustains it.
Close, I expect Edmonds to return in week 14 and Conner was a middling RB3 before he got hurt. Perhaps he'll be a little better then before Edmonds went down but I don't think by much.
Still think you should have got more of early projected second or third thrown on top of this as Conner has played very well and could be looking at a possible starters role this offseason when he returns to free agency. He did a lot to pick up his stock last year.
Asking for a #1 back may have been difficult, just think you should have got a little more then a possible late 2 .
Rockchild
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Fair enough. I am satisfied with the return but understand that I may have left a little on the table but not enough to make me regret the deal. I'm hoping the pick turns out to be the 2.05/2.06.
Boston
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That is not a lot to give up for Dak in a Superflex...Fields looks like he's gonna be a good one but probably his best case scenario is he matches Dak and while Fields is younger, age is a non-factor with Dak right now...a 1st sounds good except it is a late #1 in a 14-team league so the value is a little deceiving...Jones does nothing for me in this deal and Edmonds is not a guy I would be targeting in this type of deal...solid RB but he will be 26 in April and I don't think he will ever not be a part of an RBBC...no clue why a late #2 had to be added in this deal as the deal was already in favor of the new Dak Owner.
Tau837
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Especially in a 14 team Superflex. Not enough QBs, much less top QBs, to go around with that many teams.
Atomic Punk
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With deadlines approaching, I cannot see getting anything more than a mid/late 2nd for Connor. If you cannot unload him now (as a non-contender) what do you think his worth will be next season? A third at best is my guess.
ghostguy123
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PantherThunder
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For guys like that I would st least try to package him and go from a late 2nd to an early 2nd
Atomic Punk
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Agreed. I own him in a couple of leagues and tried to get him in 1-2 more for a playoff run. When offered my 2nd, others teams either didn’t respond or asked for my 1st. Not sure in what world Connor is worth a 1st but it sure isn’t mine.
Not mine either. He’s scoring a lot of tds right now, but he’s yet to have a 100 yard game and his ypc is south of 4. What happens when the tds dry up?
ghostguy123
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FFPC (not superflex)
Travis Kelce, Devante Freeman, Latavius Murray, 5th rounder, 6th rounder
For
Calvin Ridley, Allen Robinson, Zach Ertz, 2nd rounder
Travis Kelce, Devante Freeman, Latavius Murray, 5th rounder, 6th rounder
For
Calvin Ridley, Allen Robinson, Zach Ertz, 2nd rounder
Boston
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ghostguy123
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Hot Sauce Guy
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He’s also an injury prone player who’s stayed healthy for the 1st time in a while. I see it as getting good value while the gettin’s good. I agree he’s valuable - I’m not sure you’d be able to pry away a 1st for him.
