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JuJu went before Julio in most redraft leagues last season - or very close to the same spot. It took one of the worst QB situations in the league to ruin his season so Julio isn’t even really a “win now” upgrade. This was a pretty terrible trade for the other side.
Most? You sure about that? I've yet to see it myself and have been in 5 drafts and have had friends share several others with me and in none of those drafts has JuJu been within a round of Julio, with Julio going first. In FFPC best balls right now it's a 22 pick difference. And yea, JuJu is way better value 22 picks later then Julio and way more valuable in dynasty but I'm not seeing what you are saying here.
My favorite trade I've made this offseason was dealing Julio/Bell/2.4 for 1.3/1.4.
You really can’t see the point I was making?
I see the point you are trying to make but do you not see that people don't value them the same for redraft and with respect to trying win now don't you see why that matters? And FWIW last year I rarely saw JuJu go over Julio last year, was close but rarely saw him go ahead of Julio. Ben's now 38, coming off a major surgery and the question of if JuJu can operate without AB taking away the attention still hangs over a lot of people. So whether you think they are the same or not this year that's not the consensus.
I only brought up Julio in that post because of the post I was responding to (look up) mentioned how “win now” teams value Julio.
It looks more like a “new owner” type trade than an “any sort of strategy” type deal.Dr. Octopus said:
This is a steal...Adams is easily the best player in this deal...anytime you can nibble around the edges of your roster and get a stud you'll take it...I don't see what the other owner is thinking here at all...I like Ridley but he should not be the centerpiece of a deal this big, he should be around the second best player that is coming back for Adams...due to his age Brees has limited dynasty value (and is on a similar career timeline as Brady so he doesn't even improve in that area) while Mostert and Pacal are complete wildcards who could both be on their team's bench by mid-season this season...you need far more definitive assets and/or draft picks if you are dealing a legit stud like Adams...this deal really doesn't make sense to me at all...Dreamer said:
While Mostert looked fantastic last year he is a 27 year old RB that you probably picked-up on waivers last year...I have zero issues with him being thrown in but if he does not duplicate something that literally came out of nowhere last season this guy is screwed...as stated above there is just way too much room for error in this deal...
Shanahan is such a wildcard with RBs that it would be taking a big chance to add him prior to the draft and free agency...once those things settle down (as well as Breida's status) there may be more of a market for him but gotta believe it's tough not being suspect of him regardless of how good he looked last year.
Very true. But I don't think people listened to Shanny late in the year. He made it clear Mostert deserved to be the starter and was so happy/proud of him. The kid ran for 6 yards per carry. I think the job is his until he blows it or gets injured. A great buy low IMO.
I agree that he is a nice buy low...the issue here is in a move for a stud like Adams he is not being bought low.
And then he rushed Coleman 22 times in the divisional round of the playoffs. Coleman was also well on his way to a similar usage in the Conference round until he dislocated his shoulder early (after 6 carries already).
Gotta go with Hockenson here...he is 4 years younger and while his rookie year was nothing special he is only a year removed from being a very highly regarded prospect who was drafted #8 overall...due to that I would still like to see what he looks like this year...I assume this deal went down right after Hurst got traded...right?
I favor the Jones and Dhop side here, but it’s close. I’m a big fan of Jones and I suspect Hopkins will be in the mix for number 1 overall WR this year in the desert.
Could have put it in the worst trade offer thread and it would have git.
Honestly that was my reaction his reaction to the Ridley/Golladay trade, which I felt slightly favored Golladay but I did not think was that bad. That Barkley trade is horrendous.
Because Barkley is still a top 5 fantasy asset and Goedert is ascendant in a position scarce of talent.
I like the Golladay side. Has the talent and potential to be a top 5 WR if Stafford can stay on the field.
I thought it was bad and posted about it. Goedert just isn't there yet with Ertz there, I didn't see the Witten thing yet though, and the one guy thinks Jones can be a RB1 with TB12 there but I think they go get another RB in FA/draft anyways.
I'm on record as saying it's a horrible trade because I think Barkely and CMC are in a tier by themselves. I would in fact take Barkley 1.1 in a startup without a second thought.
Totally agreed on Jones. I read TB12 to TB is all but done. But that is per someone in TB.
