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The Plight of the White Working Class (1 Viewer)

Paulymaggs

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http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/17/the-plight-of-the-white-working-class-isnt-economic-its-cultural/

Interesting look at the Trump support.
 

Being Chinese-American and played the game here pretty well, I had no idea White people were at this level and felt this way.    :(

Alot of what's said in that article rang true (anecdotally) when I went to the Trump rally in Everett last night (looked to be 95% white) and talked to some of the people there.

Very orderly and respectful people and I don't think the vast majority of them have that many illusions of what Trump is but they were VERY enthusiastic about the symbolism he represents.....

Anyway, thought I'd share a bit from my perspective.

 
Poor white Americans. Win the birth lottery, ride the roller coaster as though all who gave their lives to make good wages & work conditions and beat the Axis did it just for them, take, take, take, take, give,  TAKE, when the economy passes them by because their leadership (who they vote in or out) sold em out, they go 'huh?'. Lessee, what else is different about the world i no longer matter to? Hmmm, there's more coloreds and homos and some of em live even better than i do. That's not sposeta happen in the Land of Millionaires! HATE EM, HATE EM, HATE EM!!!

 
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I am born and raised in Philadelphia, and Fishtown is becoming a top of the list example of gentrification in a growing city. I grew up in NE Philadelphia which was a nice, working class neighborhood. When I played baseball, we traveled around the NE part of Philadelphia for games, the closest to Center City being Fishtown's rec center team. I am 32, so this was before the gentrification began. Before I knew what they were or represented, there were broken vials, needles, and hoses everywhere around the dugout area. Not a great neighborhood. Fast Forward to now, where Philadelphia is growing tremendously outward from the Center City area, and just via proximity people are buying up as much property as they can to rent/own as the values increase. This is by proxy displacing long time residents via increased property taxes based on soaring home estimates, or increased rents in line with increasing property values. I have been around there a handful of times in my adult life for new bars and restaurants, and it's gentrified areas immediately surrounded by "I might get jumped tonight" areas. So yeah, I can see why the gentrification crowd would be Pro-Trump and vice versa based upon where this article takes place.

 
http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/17/the-plight-of-the-white-working-class-isnt-economic-its-cultural/

As someone who grew up in a lower middle class family and still visits my home town (Des Moines) every couple of years, that's the most accurate article I've read on the subject. 

This sums it up perfectly:

I asked Winship, and he said some of it has to do with comfort. A lot of people in down-scale communities aren’t destitute or in danger of starving like those in early eras, so they’re less motivated to uproot their lives. But plenty of people do leave, and those who are left behind tend to be the least ambitious. “It creates pockets of people who aren’t upwardly mobile,” Winship said. “They’re doing well enough that they don’t have to move.”
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While they are relatively comfortable, they are typically working hard for it.  They get angry and frustrated when they see people they believe are milking the system without working as hard.

 
So they’re able to get by well enough to stay put, but they’re not necessarily working. Indeed, the number of men age 25 to 54 who have dropped out of the labor force has been increasing for decades. It’s a serious problem, and something of a mystery to economists, who can’t quite explain what’s causing it. Alan Berube of the Brookings Institute recently noted some regional patterns to this phenomenon, which coincide somewhat with areas where Trump has found support: “These include many small former industrial centers in states like Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio; areas of West Virginia and Louisiana that rely on declining-employment industries like mining; and long-struggling agricultural economies in Arkansas, Texas, and inland California.”
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There's gotta be a reason why they can't find work and are forced to sponge off their wife/gf/family - must be those damn illegals!

 
Soootch said:
When I was younger I would always criticize poor inner city blacks for being lazy, collecting welfare and not taking accountability to improve their lot in life. Now we've got white communities acting the same way. I blame Fred Durst, Vanilla Ice and Eminem.
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Unfair rap, maaaan

 
Soootch said:
When I was younger I would always criticize poor inner city blacks for being lazy, collecting welfare and not taking accountability to improve their lot in life. Now we've got white communities acting the same way. I blame Fred Durst, Vanilla Ice and Eminem.
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But the socialists have Snow, which is much worse.  He licks the boom boom down.

 
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All the guys
That really have the money
Are too old
To have a good time with it

All the guys
That really have the money
Are too old
To have a good time with it

Too old to turn the women on
Too old to have a fast car and drive it

All the guys
That really have the money
Are too old
To have a good time with it

All the guys
That really have the money
Are too old
To party or get dirty

Too old to turn the women on
Too old to have a fast car and drive it

 
Paulymaggs said:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/17/the-plight-of-the-white-working-class-isnt-economic-its-cultural/

Interesting look at the Trump support.
 

Being Chinese-American and played the game here pretty well, I had no idea White people were at this level and felt this way.    :(

Alot of what's said in that article rang true (anecdotally) when I went to the Trump rally in Everett last night (looked to be 95% white) and talked to some of the people there.

Very orderly and respectful people and I don't think the vast majority of them have that many illusions of what Trump is but they were VERY enthusiastic about the symbolism he represents.....

Anyway, thought I'd share a bit from my perspective.
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The problem is that it's not the illegals who are making the workforce more difficult for the lower skilled and a president can't ease those difficulties by pushing around our trade partners. As that article pointed out, some places that have been hit hard by the changing economy are taking positive steps to adapt to it and save their communities. That's the slow, hard way to get it done but, in the end, maybe the only way.

 
roadkill1292 said:
That's the slow, hard way to get it done but, in the end, maybe the only way.
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The fast, easy way is to allow America to become the Land of the Big Idea again. We can export jobs (tho we shouldn't) AND cut out redundancies with the heartlessness the market dictates, but not if we squash innovation by letting the big keep getting bigger and allow such a huge braindrain from science & engineering to finance & profiteering.

 
wikkidpissah said:
The fast, easy way is to allow America to become the Land of the Big Idea again. We can export jobs (tho we shouldn't) AND cut out redundancies with the heartlessness the market dictates, but not if we squash innovation by letting the big keep getting bigger and allow such a huge braindrain from science & engineering to finance & profiteering.
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I'm pretty sure I agree with at least the last phrase here.

 
Are the advantages that come from being born "white" in this country gone?

Did those advantages ever exist?

 
Until you apply to jobs with either James Metzger or Tyrone Williams as your name and see who gets more call backs for interviews.

 
Paulymaggs said:
Are the advantages that come from being born "white" in this country gone?

Did those advantages ever exist?
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Since most of the people running companies are white, white people have an inherent advantage because people tend to feel more comfortable with people who remind them of themselves. 

 
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