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I was curious on that interception and who was actually to blame. Clearly the cause was Cook not turning to become a receiver... and the 6-7 yards it would have gained seemed logical as a 1st down route. I'm just not sure if that play was Cousins playing poorly.
Cousins said it was a miscommunication between him and Cook and that he has to remember to make sure every player knows the play before leaving the huddle.
Ha, that sounds like a nice way to say Cook didn't understand his role on that play. It's literally not possible for a QB to re-confirm every player understands a play in the huddle.
Yeah, that was my concern in my post last week... that Zimmer seems to use a lot of 4 man rushes when facing back-up QBs, and they have more success than they should (losses vs Chase Daniel/Matt Moore in 2019). Zimmer should just immediately pressure them into the mistakes that led to them not being NFL starters. Being lax just gives them early confidence, which was apparent yesterday.
There was another play as well that I recall where cook was out of position.. It was a Short pass play called inside their own 10.. he drifted out without trying to block and seemed to "sit down" when he should have kept drifting.. Cousins threw to where he thought Cook would be, which ended up going over his head.Biabreakable said:
look when it sailed over..
He was terrible. Cleveland pushed back a lot too. Just not as much as Dozier. ONeil gave up pressure too.
I dont see how this matters when the refs called PI on a hail mary that usually does not get called.
Zimmer said he wasnt worried about Baily going into this game.
FWIW, Greg Williams got fired last week for blitzing and leaving his cornerback on an island, leading to a long winning completion by Las Vegas. I’ll meet you halfway though... at a minimum you must rush 4.
Yup. ESPN has it as 12 QB hits and obviously the 6 sacks. The passing game was surprisingly ok for spells despite the pressure, although the OL really folded under the pressure as the 2nd half progressed. I was realistic heading into this game, so not too surprising other than with the success of Dalvin.Biabreakable said:
I think they have made some progress on that front but it isnt fixed yet. I think they have 3 viable players who could have long careers with the Vikings and Reiff is playing the best I've seen from him this year.
Cousin has always had an issue with his "Internal clock".. That isn't going to change and is
at this point in his career.
Yup. It's why I was not comforted by the fact we had so many accomplished coaches who (seemingly) believed their vast coaching abilities could overcome a bad OL.
I am not sure what you mean by the game has changed but Kubiak wont. Do you mean he Vikings need to pass the ball more?I WAS a Kubiak fan before, but it is time for him to go.
He refuses to adjust his game plan away from what worked when he was at Denver.. The game has changed and he won't.. Continues to ignore how bad the OL is and insists on having Cousins sit in the pocket and get hammered.
Team needs to find a new offensive coach who can game plan for the players he has, rather then try and force players into his plan.
On to the off season and hopefully improving the OL as top priority.
Yeah he isn't the fastest guy in the world but it would be better to get 5 yards if he doesn't feel good enough about throwing it into coverage.
I don't think boots and roll outs are great against the Bears defense. The screens are kind of hard to get off against them too.Cousin has always had an issue with his "Internal clock".. That isn't going to change and is
BUT, if the Game plan included more roll-outs, screens, short passing routes it would help.
The Vikings running the ball on 2nd and long is something that people have been talking about all year. Their tendency to do this is high and they should be aware of that. They ran with Cook on 3rd and long one time. Didnt get the 1st down of course but it was actually close and that play made sense to me considering they were backed up near the end zone.
What is Stefanski doing well with the Browns that the Vikings are not doing?
The defense is depleted. Pierce and Hunter not playing at all and Kendricks out the last couple weeks has sunk the season.
Yep. We have been watching what happens when the defense doesnt get enough pass rush.
Not to mention the rookies and inexperienced players in the secondary. Should hopefully.be a big jump up in the defense next year.
Yeah I would hope so. I do believe in Zimmer being able to get the defense back to where it was.
I don’t think it is trickery, but I’ve seen a fair number of games and would call them unpredictable and dynamic. They do have an awful lot of talent, and strong pass protection. Mayfield move a lot with eyes downfield.
I haven't watched the Browns much at all this year. So I will take your word for it.
You should watch them, they are a fun team to watch. They are the 6th highest scoring team in the NFL, which is more impressive since divisional games include Pitt/Balt. They do a good job with screens to dynamic RBs and getting the ball to shifty WRs in mid routes, who can get YAC, both of which presents defenses problems focusing too much on their very strong ground game.
Oh I gotcha.
Much faster. I don’t think the Vikings can replicate what Cleveland does, but they could use their speed better, and less predictability. Main point is kudos to Stefanski. Cleveland had much of this same talent + OBJ last season and could not put anything together offensively.
I like Stefanski. I think he listens well and happy he is doing well.
IMO.. Kubiak failed to adjust his game plan for this OL.. Having Kirk, who has no internal clock, sit in the pocket waiting for Wr's to run 25+ yard routes has been just asking for disaster behind this OL.
Were the Vikings running a lot of deep routes?snogger said:
Once it was obvious the OL wasn't going to provide protection long enough for deep routes, he should have adjusted to more screens, short crossing routes, draws, etc.. Do something to help the OL.. Instead he had a plan and just expects the OL to do something they've proven they can't.
