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Ok so let me ask you this -
This has nothing to do with free speech rights. The NFL limits players' "speech" all the time and they have every right to do it.
don't pretend to know me
I listen to conservative talk radio on the way to work in the morning. Listening to the other side's radio isn't that rare.
You seriously don't see a difference between citizens exercising their free speech rights and the President trying to rally people and businesses to try to prevent that exercise in free speech?
When the NFL tells them to stop then they should. But that's the NFLs place not the President.
Right, but in this case their employer, the NFL, has allowed them to protest in this way.
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No, it's not because of freedom of speech rights. It's because the owners, in some cases, have allowed them to do it.
Why would I want you to burn anything? Why you keep on suggesting breaking laws in order to get attention. You yourself have said numerous times that the players should have come up with a better way to protest. You seem to know the best ways of doing that so do it, some freaking complaining. If you are truly being oppressed and are a victim of injustices then do something about it. Don't get pissed at the people that are actually trying to do something.
It's absolutely a constitutional free speech issue. The NFL has thus far been fine allowing to players to speak. It's Trump (and now Sessions) trying to pressure the NFL to prohibit that speech.
Employers have a lot of "rights" that we don't question enough. Why can they do things to us that we would squeal to the roofs if govt did them?
Most of the time you make a stand for something there are negatives but if you believe in the cause it is worth it. Our founding fathers knew this to be true...
I couldn't agree more. My brother was talking Riversco stuff, and I just shook my head and told him to study that time period.
Again, this is why TRUMP has no say in the matter.
#1 I don't ignore anything - ever. I might miss it, because I don't live on this forum 24-7-365, but I never ignore
The majority of laws side with employees over business. Most of the laws put in place are made fairly difficult for businesses to take advantage of.
Talk radio guys. Unless they're local and educated and not the ones I'm thinking of.
The thing is, number 3 is basically your opinion. I know a lot of others share that opinion but it's still just opinion.
Do you find the NFL players' actions more or less offensive than Trump directly attacking John McCain and Humayun Khan's parents?
No basically about it. That's 100% an opinion which he is entitled to have. But it's not a fact. Not even remotely close to being one.
If I had a platform in which me doing an action for 120 seconds pissed off a bunch of people you think that's what I should do?
I'd much rather you knelt in silent protest than joined a mob and killed someone like the "fine people" in Charlottesville did.
He certainly can.
but do it correctly - Trump was wrong i how he delivered his thoughts on sitting during the anthem
I think you should do whatever you feel you need to do in order to get your point across as long as it is legal. It is your right to do so and you should take advantage of your right.
One involves a bunch of 20-something kids with a legitimate cause and the other is someone that he obviously feels / felt was worthy of being CiC of our armed forces, and who said that stuff out of pure spite. It's pretty hugely hypocritical to get all worked up over the former after letting the latter slide with zero comment whatsoever.
Yes, and we all have every right to ##### about how dumb and petty it makes him look. And round and round we go.
Thanks for the qualification. Carry on.
I don't like the way Trump does much of anything, but "wrong" is relative here. There are a fair number of people on both sides of this political argument.
Wisconsin voted for Trump. I'll let you decide if there's a connection in terms of the outrage.
That's good. It's valuable to me too. The constitution is more valuable to me though and should be for everyone. Just because something is very valuable to us doesn't always make it right though. You want to tell everyone that you're offended and that you will boycott them then go right ahead, express your rights man but do not try and tell others what they need to be doing as that is not your right.
You think that blasting away at the NFL on twitter while ACA repeal fails again, Puerto Rico is a disaster, and his guy lost the election in Alabama is going to work out well for him? I don't disagree that this kind of nonsense plays well with the folks that he already has in his pocket, but overall you actually think that this is a good look for him?
