lsutigers Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Yes, mine is more of a list aggregator to combine offensive and IDP players and I'm still updating it post draft to factor in draft landing spot (scheme and opportunity). I tweaked LB and DE a bit, but DL, CB and Safety are still up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Jene said on Twitter he'd be doing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Wow, my safeties are very different - I only have 3 guys on my list: Holland, Grant, Deablo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC_32 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 15 hours ago, Tick said: Wow, my safeties are very different - I only have 3 guys on my list: Holland, Grant, Deablo. I think Deablo is slated for LB - not safety. I am more open minded to Holland and Grant than I am Moehrig. The problem I have with Holland is I don't think he'll be a full timer barring injury until 2022 and I generally don't stash futures at safety until in-season. My issue with Grant is his versatility. I think his ability to play deep and in the box is a good thing for Atlanta, but not for our game. Thinking about this more I'd throw a dart at Holland and Grant if they fell far enough in my deep dyno (53 man roster + 10 man taxi), but I'm still looking elsewhere in my 40-45 man leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 hours ago, MAC_32 said: I think Deablo is slated for LB - not safety. I am more open minded to Holland and Grant than I am Moehrig. The problem I have with Holland is I don't think he'll be a full timer barring injury until 2022 and I generally don't stash futures at safety until in-season. My issue with Grant is his versatility. I think his ability to play deep and in the box is a good thing for Atlanta, but not for our game. Thinking about this more I'd throw a dart at Holland and Grant if they fell far enough in my deep dyno (53 man roster + 10 man taxi), but I'm still looking elsewhere in my 40-45 man leagues. Good point - probably best to just skip the position anyway given the bargains on the waiver wire. For Deablo, I’m hoping for a S designation and an LB role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronco fan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 If Gene doesn't get this done soon, he may as well not bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeshan2 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 It’s up by the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronco fan Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Thanks Gene. This is one of my most trusted and relied upon resouces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockaction Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Thank you, Jene. We appreciate the hard work you guys do. Using it for my draft today! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronco fan Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) Any word from Jene about a 2022 version of his combined draft board? Many of us rely on this to guide us through our rookie drafts. Thanks in advance Jene! Edited May 4 by bronco fan grammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acarey50 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 13 minutes ago, bronco fan said: Any word from Jene about a 2022 version of his combined draft board? Many of us rely on this to guide us through our rookie drafts. Thanks in advance Jene! Previously announced that it isn't happening this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacomish Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) At least there is Bloom's combined 100... https://www.footballguys.com/article/2022-post-draft-bloom-100 Edited May 4 by Dacomish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Dacomish said: He did do one in the end! https://www.footballguys.com/article/2022-post-draft-bloom-100 That's Bloom's top 100, not Bramel's combined board. Very nice to have, but Bramel's presentation always clicked with me. Both @lsutigers and @tripp posted Bramel-style boards in the Rookies thread in this forum. Also DynastySanta on Twitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacomish Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Tick said: That's Bloom's top 100, not Bramel's combined board. Very nice to have, but Bramel's presentation always clicked with me. Both @lsutigers and @tripp posted Bramel-style boards in the Rookies thread in this forum. Also DynastySanta on Twitter. Ahh...I really gotta quit drinking at work....lol! Sorry I thought it said Bloom.... Edited May 4 by Dacomish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man With No Name Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Footballguys Combined Board 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsutigers Posted Saturday at 07:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:14 PM Thoughts? Thought it was a strong effort and greatly appreciated the work on it. Some of the LB and secondary rankings are very different than anything else I’ve seen and I dig that. Certainly made me research guys like Det LB Rodriguez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted Saturday at 08:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:00 PM Here's mine... I put them in tiers instead of rounds. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSg5Kr2feRU41HqTQ2ayEGsBkLwv1M3k1tHA2_o2v074Nlm6A6FF7ZcflDx0KvHOn13oc90CITwclvI/pubhtml 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted Sunday at 11:13 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:13 PM John Norton hates Kyle Hamilton with a passion. Most have him as a top 5 IDP player and Norton has him outside his top 5 DB's let alone players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted Sunday at 11:15 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:15 PM Would have really liked to have seen Jene's personal combined board this year I have always used that especially on the defensive side to figure out my own rankings. This year's board really was a contradiction against the rest of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted Monday at 12:20 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:20 AM 1 hour ago, Dez said: John Norton hates Kyle Hamilton with a passion. Most have him as a top 5 IDP player and Norton has him outside his top 5 DB's let alone players. Good. It's his opinion, and I'm glad he doesn't water it down by averaging with consensus like I would do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted Monday at 12:23 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:23 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Dez said: Would have really liked to have seen Jene's personal combined board this year I have always used that especially on the defensive side to figure out my own rankings. This year's board really was a contradiction against the rest of the world. I averaged all the boards I could find: Macri, Bloom, Santa, gridironratings, tripp, lsutigers, Davenport, JoeyTheTooth, Haseley, Tietgen, Norton, brotofantasy. Here's what I got, though it was before MFL reclassified, so I didn't have Travon Walker listed, and I didn't bother with a couple of guys who were LBs (Bonitto comes to mind): Player Pos Rd Tm Avg Devin Lloyd LB 1 JAC 1.545454545 Aidan Hutchinson DE 0 DET 2.090909091 Kyle Hamilton S 0 CIN 3.727272727 Nakobe Dean LB 3 PHI 3.909090909 Kayvon Thibodeaux DE 0 NYG 5.181818182 Quay Walker LB 1 GBP 5.454545455 George Karlaftis DE 1 KCC 7.818181818 Jermaine Johnson DE 1 NYJ 7.818181818 Troy Anderson LB 2 DEN 9.727272727 Christian Harris LB 3 HOU 10.18181818 Lewis Cine S 1 ATL 12.63636364 Channing Tindall LB 3 MIA 13.09090909 Jaquan Brisker S 2 CHI 13.81818182 Chad Muma LB 3 JAC 14.27272727 Arnold Ebiketie DE 2 ATL 16.90909091 Leo Chenal LB 3 KCC 17.09090909 David Ojabo DE 2 BAL 17.90909091 Daxton Hill (FS) S 1 IND 18.63636364 Jalen Pitre S 2 HOU 19.45454545 Sam Williams DE 2 DAL 20 Brian Asamoah LB 3 MIN 20.18181818 Bryan Cook S 2 KCC 21.81818182 Drake Jackson DE 2 SFO 21.90909091 Nick Cross S 3 IND 22.09090909 Terrel Bernard LB 3 BUF 23.81818182 Josh Paschal DE 2 DET 25 Damone Clark LB 5 DAL 26.27272727 Myjai Sanders DE 3 ARI 26.63636364 Kerby Joseph S 3 DET 26.81818182 J.T. Woods S 3 ATL 27.18181818 Brandon Smith LB 4 CAR 27.27272727 D'Marco Jackson LB 5 NOS 28.09090909 Cameron Thomas DE 3 ARI 29.27272727 Micah McFadden LB 5 NYG 29.81818182 DeMarvin Leal DE 3 PIT 30.09090909 DeAngelo Malone DE 3 ATL 30.63636364 Alex Wright DE 3 CLE 31.63636364 Taylor-Britt S 2 CIN 32.81818182 Edited Monday at 12:24 AM by Tick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted Monday at 12:31 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:31 AM (edited) I just went against Norton's rankings and took Kyle Hamilton at pick 20 (2.04) of my 16 team IDP PPR 1.5 TE league, 2 pts per tackle Highest I have ever taken a DB ever and have been playing full scoring IDP since 2014 and limited IDP since 1997. Edited Monday at 12:31 AM by Dez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC_32 Posted Monday at 01:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:50 PM 14 hours ago, Dez said: John Norton hates Kyle Hamilton with a passion. Most have him as a top 5 IDP player and Norton has him outside his top 5 DB's let alone players. Does he hate the player or the potential usage in our game? There's a path to IDP stardom for him, but he's a diverse enough talent that he could be a trap. What if the Ravens decide to primarily use him over the top and in coverage? I'm not betting that'll happen, but it's absolutely in the range of potential outcomes. It's why I traded up for him (mid 3rd) in big play, but bypassed in tackle heavy. His value still carries some volatilty if he's not put in positions to rack up volume, but since turnovers and PD's are more heavily rewarded there is some mitigation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gally Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago On 5/22/2022 at 4:13 PM, Dez said: John Norton hates Kyle Hamilton with a passion. Most have him as a top 5 IDP player and Norton has him outside his top 5 DB's let alone players. On 5/23/2022 at 6:50 AM, MAC_32 said: Does he hate the player or the potential usage in our game? There's a path to IDP stardom for him, but he's a diverse enough talent that he could be a trap. What if the Ravens decide to primarily use him over the top and in coverage? I'm not betting that'll happen, but it's absolutely in the range of potential outcomes. It's why I traded up for him (mid 3rd) in big play, but bypassed in tackle heavy. His value still carries some volatilty if he's not put in positions to rack up volume, but since turnovers and PD's are more heavily rewarded there is some mitigation. I would take it a step further and say that DB's are like kickers. Sure there are a few that are likely at the top but by and large there isn't enough difference between 1 and 20 to make them a priority in any way. I was shocked to see the love for Hamilton and how high people were putting him on their draft boards. I just don't see a reason to waste draft capital on a DB. There just isn't enough difference in the top 20. Also, there are always new guys you can find on waivers that are in that range week to week. They are just easy to acquire that using a top pick on one really isn't a benefit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Gally said: I would take it a step further and say that DB's are like kickers. Sure there are a few that are likely at the top but by and large there isn't enough difference between 1 and 20 to make them a priority in any way. I was shocked to see the love for Hamilton and how high people were putting him on their draft boards. I just don't see a reason to waste draft capital on a DB. There just isn't enough difference in the top 20. Also, there are always new guys you can find on waivers that are in that range week to week. They are just easy to acquire that using a top pick on one really isn't a benefit. I hear ya. We shall see I expect to get what I paid for and I paid "unicorn" prices so I expect to have got myself a unicorn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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