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Read it - its a short interview.
It continues to spread, but not as fast. It's not binary. I disagree with the strategy, but I get it.
You wouldn't think this would be such a hard concept to grasp but apparently it is. I think it's rooted in consuming nothing but doom and gloom media that says the only way is a long drawn out isolation and that there are no alternative approaches or current drugs that could actually work.
Starting it now...my first observation is more in jest that the first question was...
That is my pointt. No one is even talking about at what point we can end it. The only suggestion is when we have a drug. I would not be shocked if in two weeks we see the rate of deaths level off and even start to decline as a result. This is not going to keep going up for 3 months.
It's gonna take decades to recover from Trump anyway. A long, slow, crawl back to normalcy is just fine with me.
It was covered earlier in this thread, but this is what he's talking about:
Loans to business to keep them afloat are not a slush fund. Keeping the names private is not a good idea, but that does not make it a slush fund.
Because we don't know where that point is yet. So many places are just now getting into the shutting down of non-essentials. And others still have people dining in restaurants.
We have pretty good evidence that quick responsiveness was quite effective in other countries. Certainly no guarantee per se that would have happened here. But, it was reckless and incompetence to just let it all happen without doing anything--AND telling everyone for months there was nothing to see here. Well. There's a lot to see here and this administration ignored all the experts telling POTUS how serious this would get. They were right.
This is backwards. If it speaks in mid April it will be because the doubling time stays around 2 days. If so most of the population has COVID by then. If we push the double time to a week it means most of the population will have it by July. That hopefully stops the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.
When there is no oversight, its at POTUS's discretion, and he doesn't have to disclose things until 6 months from now...yeah, its a slush fund.
It kind of does. Seen a few slush funds in local politics. It’s defined by - control by a given politician or his coterie, lots of public money, lack of criteria, and lack of transparency. It’s all here.
Yeah, my read of that is that the second scenario is preferred. That's flattening the curve.
My goodness. If America was built on the backs of people with your mindset we'd be speaking a different language and under the rule of a foreign power.
You seem to have this idea that we're doing this massive shutdown. We're not. This is the list of businesses that are currently allowed to remain open in Connecticut.
Can you please stop with the platitudes and explain how this is supposed to work?
I agree for the most part, but I would say we have already bent the curve. The stats for deaths is about an 18-day lag before the results are seen in hard data.
Yes...the list of exceptions on these "shelter in place" or "safer at home" things is quite large. This is nowhere near a shut down.
So what is your plan? What's your definition of this "middle ground" that will both preserve the economy and keep people alive?
Enjoy playing semantics rather than calling out that bogus crap from the GOP. Not going to play games...
A slush fund is money used for illicit or illegal purposes. This is a loan to businesses in need. The money will still be accounted for and used for legal purposes. Now the 6-month provision is odd and should be removed, but that does not make it a slush fund.
To be honest, I think people ARE using their imaginations. Examples that come to mind include "working from home", "virtual schooling" (we are starting this next week I believe), restaurants being open for takeout/delivery but not sit down meals, not closing beaches rather closing the parks and public parking areas on the beaches etc. It sucks, but the answer to a social problem is society, not the government. The longer we resist doing the needful, the more pain we're going to experience. INDIVIDUALS are the answer here and in this instance it requires a #### ton of them to be on the same page. Putting people back to work means masks, sanitation etc. We can't even get enough masks to our first responders and doctors/nurses. How are we supposed to get them for 200+ million others? And I reject this notion that "everything is shut down". It's not even close to true. There are people out everywhere. It's WAY better here than other countries. What we're doing today is putting us on the path of where Italy's at. Personally, I don't want to see that happen here, but that's where we're headed.
That looks like twitter if so I can't access. Is that just a random twitter or an actual link to the actual document?
It's taking place as we speak and it's an effort that has to run round the clock until enough resources are in place to end all quarantines and business shutdowns...
And this is the dangerous part...we have NO CLUE what our denominator is at this point. We continue to be WAY behind in testing. We are still firmly in the "we don't know what we don't know" phase, but you believe we've already bent the curve. What do you base this on?
That's a really odd definition, and not one I've ever heard used before. I think the more common definition of a slush fund is money that is allocated but the use of which is unregulated, and typically controlled or directed by one person or group. The point of calling this particular provision a slush fund is precisely the fact that it would be unregulated and untraceable.
Good...let's do this. In the meantime, lock yourself down and stay away from each other. It's worth noting though, accomplishing this list and getting all this in order is going to take magnitudes of time longer than what we are being asked to do today. So I struggle to see how this gets us back up and running ASAP. I agree all these things would get us back on track, but we can't leave one of them off the list when talking about letting people out and about with the virus raging through the country. Also, for those who refuse to comply (and you know those people exist), I would expect you support them being thrown in jail for not complying?
So you're suggesting we should move forward with he first 7 steps, move forward with step #8 once the others are complete, and in the meantime, shut everything down?
