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I am 100% convinced that Golda would have condemned Netanyahu for continuing this attack.
There's no difference between one's killing
These aren't random extremist clerics. That is the current leader of the Gaza strip, the current leader of Iran and a high ranking official in the Palestinian Authority (controls West Bank). And this is just from the last few years. Go back to the 1940's - 1980's and you can find some even crazier rhetoric basically predicting and demanding the destruction of the Jews. You know, actual genocide.
Check out the turks and kurds. Or you might like to see how assad treated the palastinians. Actually there are no palastinians. They are arabs. Assad in allepo is some actual genocide.
So you are trying to claim the Jews are committing genocide? I mean I've seen a bunch of Muslims on twitter say it, but wow. Palestinian population has almost quadrupled since 1960. The Israelis aren't exactly known for being ineffective.Navin Johnson said:
Be careful with throwing out that term. It is certainly possible to believe that Israel is guilty of genocide without being an anti-Semite.
There is no stretching of the term "genocide" that could be applied to Israel. Anyone that tries to do so has an ulterior motive.
maybe they're just anti-genocide. or anti-ethnic cleansing. or whatever you'd prefer to call it.
They annhilated entire Palestinian villages before the mandate even took effect and were planning to do so for at least a decade before it passed. They have continued these actions for decades.
I think most people are. And yet, there are those on the far left willing to justify or forgive what Hamas is doing here, and there are those on the left, middle and right willing to justify or forgive what Israel is doing here. And innocent people continue to die.
You might want to check the thread title.quick-hands said:
Forgiveness is not the same as understanding. I understand isreals position. I understand plo and hamas position.
Your use of the term genocide is lazy at best. It isn't a genocide. I don't think anyone needs to be pro-Israel, but to throw around very heavy words like that, you better be able to back it up. Forcing Arabs out, trying to change the demographics, etc. is what is happening. Genocide is the intentional killing of a people group solely based on race with the INTENT of completely eliminating them from existence. You know, like the Holocaust, Armenia & Rwanda.
But Israel is doing it in moderation, so they're good, right?
This current iteration is called war. A defensive war at that. They are literally trying NOT to hurt the Arab people while still wipe out Hamas. Which is their goal. Wipe out Hamas. Not Arabs, not Palestinians, a militant terrorist ORGANIZATION.
Not genocide and you know it.
I mean if you insist on calling it genocide I can insist on calling you a racist anti-Semite....since you know we can just throw this crap around all willy nilly with whatever loosely based definition we want to use.
What part of throwing a stun grenade at medics and journalists is defensive. Are the journalist members of Hamas? The medics? Does it matter?
This is really over the top. My great grandfather fled what is now Latvia to escape massacres of German Jews by Ukrainian Cossacks. I also think what has happened to Palestinians is and has been genocide. You have zero right to call me or anyone else opposing the illegal occupation, annexation and murder of innocents that Israel has engaged in an anti-Semite, and nothing could be further from the truth. Honestly, I don't understand how you're even allowed to post on this board.
Words hurt, huh?
Calling something a genocide is as big of an accusation as there is, IMO. It is the viellist and most heinous of crimes against humanity and is the #1 affront attributed to the Nazis.
I see a tiny fraction of what is posted. Please report things you see that you feel are well over the line. Thanks.
I don't think anyone is supporting Hamas here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/05/15/israel-airstrike-media/
Here are the facts as I understand them:
But what about the border with Egypt? If Israel isn't the governing body over Gaza and they have a fourth border they can use, why is their current situation all Israel's fault? Why also, if life there is so atrocious, are the Palestinians reproducing like rabbits? The fertility rates in the Gaza strip rival that of the poorest nations in Africa despite the Palestinians being a highly educated populace.
Seriously? There is a war where people are dying and you post a video of a guy NOT actually throwing a stun grenade?
The dehumanization of a population by comparing them to animals is a hallmark of a genocide. You should try going to the Holocaust Museum sometime. Your posts in here are frankly disgusting.
The border has been essentially closed for nearly 15 years. Palestinians in Gaza cannot enter or leave without Israeli permission. It's essentially an open-air prison.
Egypt isn't going to change it until there is a new Palestinian government, which isn't going to happen as long as the West Bank and Gaza are occupied by the Israeli military. The whole situation is a disaster, which is why negotiations have failed for decades. The only thing that really makes sense is a two-state solution, but either one or both sides has flat-out rejected the idea each time it has been proposed.
One side has never said yes. They want isreal destroyed. They want a one state solution. Everything could be over in 5 minutes if they said yes.
They have extended their hand repeatedly. Why do you deny it? Whats your angle. At this point. Over the last 20 years. The palistineans are the road block.
I tried to tell the whole story once. The whole story would take thousands of posts.
