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SHIZNITTTT

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back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired.

 
So there are grown ups that aren't letting a kid play on the team because they don't like the dad? Pathetic.

 
Sorry to hear about your plight. I have been actively involved in youth sports as both coach and parent for 15+ years across 5 kids and 14 different sports. This has also run the gambit of rec, travel, club, AAU, and school teams. Universally, the worst possible situation is if a parent is a coach on a team with his or her child. If someone is going to take the time to coach, he or she is going to create a bad situation whether it means having the kid's friends on the team, playing a bigger role, playing out of position, getting special treatment, the same rules don't apply, etc.

Having been in that situation as a coach, even if your kid actually deserves a bigger role, the parents of the other kids will resent you and accuse you of favoring your own kid. The best situation is to have completely outside, unbiased, no dog in the fight coaches that will manage and coach the team for the best outcome of the team. While even that may end up less than ideal, at least there is a layer of fairness and lack of blatant favoritism that cannot exist when the team is run by only parents.

 
Jaysus said:
So there are grown ups that aren't letting a kid play on the team because they don't like the dad? Pathetic.
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Sounds like you aren't familiar with youth sports. If you let the kid play, it's the whole family that you have to deal with. Several times in the past when I was involved in running a team, we would pass on bringing a talented kid on because of the parents.

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired.
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In my experience being the 'bigger person' is usually synonymous with 'sap'.

 
Treynwreck3 said:
Jaysus said:
So there are grown ups that aren't letting a kid play on the team because they don't like the dad? Pathetic.
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Sounds like you aren't familiar with youth sports. If you let the kid play, it's the whole family that you have to deal with. Several times in the past when I was involved in running a team, we would pass on bringing a talented kid on because of the parents.
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And I've got no problem with that.

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired.
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Re: the bolded, why? There has to be more to the story. If it was just his coaching style, I don't see what the problem is if your current team already has a coaching staff.

 
bigbottom said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired.
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Re: the bolded, why? There has to be more to the story. If it was just his coaching style, I don't see what the problem is if your current team already has a coaching staff.
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Because DD's kid is better than Shiznittt's and Shiznittt Jr. will get shoved to the bench.

 
It's nice that there are 2 threads to discuss this issue in. Plenty of space to let everyone's opinions breathe

 
The irony about all of this is that all these kids run the gauntlet beginning in first or second grade and they are not blind to any of this..they hear your conversations, all the bickering and backbiting and by the time they are in middle school, unless they are in the top echelon of whatever traveling squad you are playing on, they are sick of playing.

Now follow me here...because I look at this as a case of perfect timing. We are now entering a time in society where weed is gaining mainstream acceptance and soon will be legal pretty much everywhere you go (I'll give it 3 more years). You are going to have a young high school kid burnt out on sports and reality (grown up crap) on your hands and a system that makes it easy to get the thing that all high school burnouts love the most; weed!!!! My advice to you is to have your kids take a couple years off from whatever sport they are playing and start taking guitar lessons or something.

 
They all smoke weed, but the difference is that one kid is burned out on all activities so the weed is used to punctuate an existence of pure boredom, which is a losers mindset, and the other kid is using the weed to fuel creativity and production, especially if they are in a band, or even better, the school band.

We all know people who smoke weed and most can argue that it is pretty harmless, but in some cases it is not harmless. Shiznitt's shenanigans with his boy are leading him down a dark, dark path. If his kid is a 6th grader and he is already worse than DD's kids, what does the future even hold for him? And does Shiznitt think that his own seed is not painfully aware of this at such a young age?

I changed my mind. I am putting that boy on heroin watch. It is only a matter of time.

 
If DD's son isn't "allowed" on your kids' team, will he just be placed on another team? If so, I don't see a problem with letting DD go somewhere else. He still gets to play, you don't have to deal with DD all season long, and neither does the coach that has beef with DD. Win-win-win.

 
Treynwreck3 said:
Jaysus said:
So there are grown ups that aren't letting a kid play on the team because they don't like the dad? Pathetic.
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Sounds like you aren't familiar with youth sports. If you let the kid play, it's the whole family that you have to deal with. Several times in the past when I was involved in running a team, we would pass on bringing a talented kid on because of the parents.
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My father always said you can't punish the kid because his parents are #######s
 
bigbottom said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired. w
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Re: the bolded, why? There has to be more to the story. If it was just his coaching style, I don't see what the problem is if your current team already hasasa coaching staff.
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The #### that #### comment was from a coach who said that DD made a pass at his wife.

 
Ditka Butkus said:
bigbottom said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired.
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Re: the bolded, why? There has to be more to the story. If it was just his coaching style, I don't see what the problem is if your current team already has a coaching staff.
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Because DD's kid is better than Shiznittt's and Shiznittt Jr. will get shoved to the bench.
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lol my twins play totally different positions. I wish that was the scenario. :lol:

 
cstu said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired.
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In my experience being the 'bigger person' is usually synonymous with 'sap'.
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Dislike.

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
bigbottom said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired. w
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Re: the bolded, why? There has to be more to the story. If it was just his coaching style, I don't see what the problem is if your current team already hasasa coaching staff.
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The #### that #### comment was from a coach who said that DD made a pass at his wife.
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:confused:

I'm trying to figure out what the story is about why your family dislikes the guy so much and why you don't want his child on your kids' team. The only thing you mentioned was his coaching style. If your team already has a coaching staff, that shouldn't be an issue. So I figured there must be something else there in terms of the history.

 
Isn't there some organization placing kids on teams? You can recruit players? I feel like I'm missing something here. :confused:

 
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johnnyrock62000 said:
Isn't there some organization placing kids on teams? You can recruit players? I feel like I'm missing something here. :confused:
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It depends how big your town/community is. Our town only has one team per age group. However, in neighboring towns where there are more people and more football crazed fans/parents, there are Pop Warner and AYF teams. So there could be a blue team and a silver team in one organization and a red team and a gold team in the other. I believe kids can sign up on any of the teams, and I don't think there is an actual draft or tryouts to make the team. I don't know what happens if a kid goes to the town and asks to be placed on a team.

 
bigbottom said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
bigbottom said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired. w
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Re: the bolded, why? There has to be more to the story. If it was just his coaching style, I don't see what the problem is if your current team already hasasa coaching staff.
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The #### that #### comment was from a coach who said that DD made a pass at his wife.
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:confused:

I'm trying to figure out what the story is about why your family dislikes the guy so much and why you don't want his child on your kids' team. The only thing you mentioned was his coaching style. If your team already has a coaching staff, that shouldn't be an issue. So I figured there must be something else there in terms of the history.
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I would imagine that DD might become a cancer to the team by even being in the stands with the other parents. He'll be up their arm chair coaching and second guessing every decision the reall coaching staff makes. I have seen these types of guys on more than one occassion unfortunately.

 
We have 6 teams at this age level. We have tryouts a combine if you will and draft from there in the 3rd grade. Each season any kid who wants to play for another team or new kids who haven't played before go to the combine. Coaches evaluate the talent and draft these kids at a large football meeting a few days before football practice begins. Those who are not drafted are placed in a hat and "hat picks" are given to the teams until all kids are playing for a team. It is all about the money no kid is turned away.

 
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