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The ONE sporting event/moment you'll never forgive (2 Viewers)
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Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
I was in junior high watching it at home with my dad, who was normally a stickler for us obeying a strict bedtime. Several times in the second half he said something to the effect of "you should go to bed", but never pushed it. Probably midway to the fourth quarter I could sense he had quietly acquiesced to me watching the duration. It also took us a few moments to realize it was getting called back.
I did get to see Ismail in person at the Meadowlands against Navy. So much fun to watch. A shame he didn't make it in the NFL.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Weird.
Of all the reasons to not like the NBA, you go with that??
I feel like you're the weird one for not acknowledging that was a f'n travesty.
Runkle
Footballguy
Exactly this. I can't believe that "knowing the rules better than the ump" is grounds for ejection. That's absolutely ridiculous. It shows exactly why the ego is the problem. The ego becomes more important than the game.
All the major leagues have gone along with this, too. I hate that I know the names of umpires in baseball and referees in football and basketball... they should be invisible. Their impact should be minimal, just keep the game going fairly. They should be interchangeable, I shouldn't be finding out "oh no, it's an Angel Hernandez game" and know it's going to be a farce before the first pitch is thrown.
My sincere hope is that the leagues quickly implement automatic calls by computers. Balls and strikes, tackles, etc. Get it all judged fairly and impartially and quickly and accurately. Get it right, quickly, and move on. In my dream world, baseball umpires and football referees become like the guys in Australian Rules Football, just there in t-shirts and ballcaps making quick calls and moving the game along, not inserting their own egos into every game.
Of course, moreover, it's this "I have the biggest ego here and I can't back down from a decision nor appear to be wrong" is seen in many, many more venues that pro sports leagues. I see it all the time in many places, and it always sucks and always makes it far worse, not better, of an experience for everyone else.
Zow
Footballguy
That was pretty bad. Also, bad those teams were quite good that year so their respective fanbases arguably lost a potentially great season to the stupidity that was the Malice at the Palace.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
That was the first time I ever cried at the end of a sporting event. I was 6. My father went to his grave swearing that game was fixed.
zamboni
Footballguy
And we Jets fans have been crying ever since that sporting event.
The only part I agreed with regarding the rule book discussion is that it has the potential to delay the game too much if the coach doesn't have the reference immediately ready. If the coach is going through the book to find something there is no place for that. You either have it exactly ready or you wait until between innings to look it up and then show me between innings and we can discuss and make sure it is right for the next time. Sucks for the short term if the call was wrong but it goes that way sometimes.
I have no issue with being shown I am wrong. I want to learn too and that is way to do it. I umped for a couple seasons and I never had any issue with the fans or coaches. It was for LL majors division and I would be upfront with both coaches going into the game. I told them my strikezone was going to be big. Nothing drags a youth baseball game down faster than a walk fest. Their batters better be ready to swing because if it was close its a strike. They all appreciated it and I never got any guff on balls/strikes. I was always smiling and never confrontational. If you don't start with a negative atmosphere it tends to stay positive for everyone. It's when the attitude starts even before the game that gets everyone riled up and makes for a bad game.
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
I thought about this a bit, but I was just a bit too young (8) to grasp what was happening and there was no one angry around me to help.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I was 10. So, pretty dumb - but even I knew at the time that it was garbage. The USSR team was really good, but the USA beat them like 7 different times in that game and there were multiple resets that made no sense.
fightingillini
Footballguy
I was in Vegas in 1999 during the 1st weekend of the NCAAA basketball tournament and the Evander Holyfield/Lennox Lewis heavyweight fight was going on. Awesome. Buddy and me both put $50 on Holyfield to win by decision. We watched the fight at one of the casinos, it went the distance and it clear that Lewis won. Buddy and me leave the watch room to get in the line for the taxi line early. 5 minutes later, all hell broke loose. Found out that the bout ended in a draw. You have the bet the draw to collect. All Lewis bettors by decision lost, and I think Lewis by decision was 4-1. Vegas made a killing on that fight. I thought there could really have been a riot in Vegas.
No way that fight was a draw. Lewis won. Never will bet on boxing ever again, so fixed. Doesn't bother me to the extent since I bet on Holyfield and it was obvious he had lost. But I felt really bad for the Lewis by decision bettors.
No way that fight was a draw. Lewis won. Never will bet on boxing ever again, so fixed. Doesn't bother me to the extent since I bet on Holyfield and it was obvious he had lost. But I felt really bad for the Lewis by decision bettors.
titusbramble
Footballguy
That's not even the worst Holyfield related judging decision, he clearly won the bout against Valuev
El Floppo
Footballguy
US v Germany 2002 World Cup quarterfinals.
In a game the US dominated, but unfortunately trailed 0-1... A German player very clearly uses his hand to stop a US shot from scoring. No call. No PK. And the US loses 0-1.
Eta... The shot taken by current US coach GGGGG.
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In a game the US dominated, but unfortunately trailed 0-1... A German player very clearly uses his hand to stop a US shot from scoring. No call. No PK. And the US loses 0-1.
Eta... The shot taken by current US coach GGGGG.
usa vs Germany 02 hand ball
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
No one said it had to be a professional sporting event. I have two stories with similar outcomes,and both involved the same group of kids. One of our sons played football, and the team was tied in the last few minutes in the state championship game. All they needed to do was burn clock and get some points to win. They moved the ball with relative ease down the field and got inside the 10 yard line, mostly running the football. With about 20 seconds left, we called a swing pass to the RB out of the backfield, but the defensive end got his paws up and deflected the pass. That changed the trajectory of the ball, which landed behind the RB. The problem was, the refs missed the deflection and didn't blow the whistle. The ball just lay on the field, and a defender picked it up and jogged 90 yards for the winning TD. The refs ruled it as a lateral and therefore a fumble, even though it was clearly a forward pass . . . except none of the refs saw that part.
The same team made it to the HS state championship again two years later. In a similar situation, they had the ball 4th and goal with seconds left at the 8 yard line. The QB rolled out and hit a WR along the sideline in the end zone for what should have been the game winning TD. The receiver caught the ball, took one step, then another step, and then ran out of bounds. All he need was one foot in for the reception. The team went crazy, the announcer called it a TD as time expired, and all the kids were elated. Not so fast. A ref ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FIELD huddled the officiating crew and said he saw the receiver bobble the ball, and he claimed the WR never had full possession before he got a foot down in bounds. He was the senior official, the other refs deferred to him, and the play was called incomplete. The play happened right in front of the stands, and people had clear video of it. There was no bobble, and the kid was in bounds with plenty to scare. The sideline ref and the back judge were both right there on the play. But the guy 50 yards away with an obstructed view saw a bobble. Game over, you lose . . . again.
The same team made it to the HS state championship again two years later. In a similar situation, they had the ball 4th and goal with seconds left at the 8 yard line. The QB rolled out and hit a WR along the sideline in the end zone for what should have been the game winning TD. The receiver caught the ball, took one step, then another step, and then ran out of bounds. All he need was one foot in for the reception. The team went crazy, the announcer called it a TD as time expired, and all the kids were elated. Not so fast. A ref ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FIELD huddled the officiating crew and said he saw the receiver bobble the ball, and he claimed the WR never had full possession before he got a foot down in bounds. He was the senior official, the other refs deferred to him, and the play was called incomplete. The play happened right in front of the stands, and people had clear video of it. There was no bobble, and the kid was in bounds with plenty to scare. The sideline ref and the back judge were both right there on the play. But the guy 50 yards away with an obstructed view saw a bobble. Game over, you lose . . . again.
B Maverick
Footballguy
People often ask about my distain for refs. Being these kids and having these calls made so poorly and obviously incorrectly is amazing. Esp when the call is made by someone no where near the play or in a bad position and is guessing.
7 year old B Mav playing in the Final of the County Cup youth soccer tourney. Teammate hits him in the chest with the ball while trying to clear it defensively, ref who's behind him, calls handball and awards a PK. Lose the game, don't get a trophy or birth to state cup. Scarred for life.
So much this!!! People in the soccer threads know to me Angel Hernandez = Michael Oliver, with Anthony Taylor making a case as well. Its crazy how relieved I am when I do not know the ref by name.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Christain Laettner’s shot to beat Kentucky in the Elite 8. I still hate that SOB.
The 1992 NCAA tournament was highlighted by a game between #1 seed Duke and #2 seed Kentucky in the east regional final to determine a spot in the Final Four. With 2.1 seconds remaining in overtime, defending national champion Duke trailed 103–102. Grant Hill threw a pass three-quarters of the length of the court to Christian Laettner, who faked right, dribbled once, turned, and hit a jumper as time expired for the 104–103 win. In 2004 Sports Illustrated deemed it the greatest college basketball game of all time,[1] and ESPN included it as number 17 on its list of top 100 sports moments of the past 25 years (see ESPN25). It is ranked number one on the list of the greatest NCAA tournament games of all time compiled by USA Today in 2002.[2]
The 1992 NCAA tournament was highlighted by a game between #1 seed Duke and #2 seed Kentucky in the east regional final to determine a spot in the Final Four. With 2.1 seconds remaining in overtime, defending national champion Duke trailed 103–102. Grant Hill threw a pass three-quarters of the length of the court to Christian Laettner, who faked right, dribbled once, turned, and hit a jumper as time expired for the 104–103 win. In 2004 Sports Illustrated deemed it the greatest college basketball game of all time,[1] and ESPN included it as number 17 on its list of top 100 sports moments of the past 25 years (see ESPN25). It is ranked number one on the list of the greatest NCAA tournament games of all time compiled by USA Today in 2002.[2]
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